Aston Villa v Arsenal [R] Pre/Dur/Post Match Comments

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  1. kanonier

    kanonier Member+

    Nov 7, 2005
    Bloomington, Ind.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Aston Villa v. Arsenal
    26 December 2008
    17:15 GMT, 12:15 EST
    Villa Park

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    It's Boxing Day football as Arsenal face a fixture that means more than we'd care for it to mean.

    Being without Fabregas and Adebayor raises a lot of questions about who we'll see in the Starting XI and where they'll play –**will we see Nasri nab Cesc's central spot, or will Diaby get a chance to play in the middle? Will Bendtner start in Ade's spot, or will we go 4-5-1?
     
  2. juanca

    juanca New Member

    Jan 30, 2006
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    -----------Almunia(c)
    sagna-gallas-djorou-clichy
    --------Song-Denilson
    Nasri-------diaby-----RVP
    ----------Bendtner
     
  3. TheArgonaut

    TheArgonaut Member

    Feb 11, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I usually don't buy into it when one game is touted by many to be a 6 pointer or "a CL decider" or "title decider." I've always gone along with the "table never lies" theory in that overall consistent performances are more important than winning "the big games".

    However, I really think this game could have a huge influence on the rest of the season.

    If Villa win and go 6 points ahead of us...
    -Villa will get a huge moral boost and could push on and widen the gap over a Cesc-less arsenal (at least for the next few weeks).
    -the cumulative effects Cesc out for weeks, 6 pts out of the CL and a team that clearly has several weaknesses could force Wenger into the transfer market in January...which in turn could have the possibility of shifting the momentum back to Arsenal if the right players come in

    If Arsenal win...
    -huge moral boost for us
    -Villa finally hit a hurdle and get pegged back a little and it will be interesting to see how they react to that
    -the fact that we're tied for 4th, with players still to come back from injury (Eduardo, Cesc, Theo, maybe Rosicky) might mean Wenger will hold off on transfers until the summer

    If it's a draw...
    -as you were in terms of the table but I have no idea who gets the moral boost out of that (if any) and no idea what effect it has on either manager's plans

    Of course that's all my opinion and speculation, I obviously don't know what Arsene Wenger or anyone involved with either club is actually thinking. It is entirely possible that a loss at Villa could get the boys so p*ssed off that they finally get in the right frame of mind and start beating the snot out of everyone they play. Or Villa could win this and then fall apart if injuries hit because they have even less squad depth than us.

    Also, I honestly do think that if the boys show up at Villa Park and play the way they did against liverpool after ade got sent off, then we will win. They just have to play like that for the whole game.
     
  4. Silva 5

    Silva 5 Member+

    Mar 10, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This one is just as big as Arsenal/ManU, Liverpool, Chelsea. It's a strange feeling being out of the top 4 and it's rather cold down here.

    It's a huge test because of Villa's style...they'll come down our throats when they get the chance no doubt, but also because we're missing two of our best players. I'm looking for Diaby and Nasri to step their game up. The two most creative in our midfield for this game will need to be sharp.

    We may be best served with a 4-5-1 with Diaby in the hole (Song & Denilson behind). That would be the easiest way for us to win the midfield battle, but I would personally like to see Wenger be a little gutsy and play Denilson and Diaby together in a 4-4-2...assuming Bendtner is available.

    Very important match. I hope the guys take it to heart and leave everything on the field, because that's what it'll take.
     
  5. Flyemirates2491

    Mar 8, 2007
    Roma, Italia
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I think we'll probably see something like this

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    But I'd like to see


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  6. MisplacedSpainard

    Apr 5, 2007
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    i like the second one except with vela instead of eboue.
     
  7. Shibby13

    Shibby13 New Member

    May 2, 2006
    NJ
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How about just putting in Vela over Bendtner
     
  8. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    victory is imperitive!!!!

    please die villa!!! bleed claret and be bruised blue etc etc
     
  9. Silva 5

    Silva 5 Member+

    Mar 10, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's almost always best to pair up a "small" man with a big man. With Bendtner we have a decent threat on crosses and he does show the ability to settle the long balls played up top which is important if we're not able to win the midfield. If not, he's at the least able to effectively challenge defenders for the air balls and force the defenders to be at their top with good clearances and what not.
     
  10. kanonier

    kanonier Member+

    Nov 7, 2005
    Bloomington, Ind.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    fyp.
     
  11. Papa Burgundy

    Papa Burgundy Member

    Jan 27, 2008
    Dirty Jerz
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    massive game.

    i'd like to play a 442 with bendtner and rvp, but the way we got bossed in the midfield last game, i wouldn't be surprised to see wenger play a 451. but with a 451, i think you have to play bendtner as the lone striker, which means rvp would be on the bench, or play on the left midfield, where he is usually not that effective.

    this a big test for denilson, let's see if he can step it up another notch.
     
  12. Silva 5

    Silva 5 Member+

    Mar 10, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    youre right, but something's gotta give. we can't just give up on him.
     
  13. juanca

    juanca New Member

    Jan 30, 2006
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I smell a draw.
     
  14. raidermid10

    raidermid10 New Member

    Jun 9, 2008
    DC-GWU
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    How bout this:

    --------Almunia-----------
    Sagna Gallas Djourou Clichy
    ------Song Denilson-------
    --Eboue-- Nasri--- Vela
    -------van Persie---------

    or maybe Wenger could put Nasri and Eboue out wide and give Ramsey or Wilshere a shot in the middle
     
  15. kanonier

    kanonier Member+

    Nov 7, 2005
    Bloomington, Ind.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    yea, wasn't trying to bust on you – just noting that Bendtner's first touch has been abysmal lately.
     
  16. TheArgonaut

    TheArgonaut Member

    Feb 11, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    We need a win now. The team needs to prove to themselves more than anyone else that they can win without Cesc.

    Last time against Villa they dominated the midfield. I think we should go with some form of 4-5-1 to try to counteract that...especially with no Cesc.

    I think we might see:

    ---------------RvP--------------
    --------------Diaby-------------
    Nasri---Denilson---Song---Eboue
    Clichy---Djourou--Gallas---Sagna
    -----------Almunia(c)-----------

    Subs: Bendtner, Vela, Wilshere, Ramsey, Silvestre, Toure, Fabianski

    If we're losing in the 50th minute I don't think Wenger should wait past more than the 55th minute to put Bendtner on in place of Song and go 4-4-2 with Diaby-Denilson in the middle.

    I think Almunia will get the armband...but I would love to see Clichy get it.
     
  17. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Exactly
     
  18. juanca

    juanca New Member

    Jan 30, 2006
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Arsenal FC

    Clichy has Future Club Captain written all over him, but ATM, Hell F*cking No.

    The last thing you want on the pitch is a captain who constantly has brain farts and is suspect to the odd Error which costs us a goal.

    Maybe in a few years, when he is consistently reliable, and we have a new LW or maybe even Rosicky back who can track back and make that Left hand side Formiddable again.
     
  19. arsenalgirl30016

    Dec 10, 2003
    Flo Rida
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd rather see RvP out on the wing. He is not the "lone striker up top" kind of striker. I'd rather play Bendtner or Vela up there with RvP on the wing or maybe slightly behind the striker with Nasri on the wing.
     
  20. TheArgonaut

    TheArgonaut Member

    Feb 11, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Possibly some good news for us...

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4687395,00.html

    Martin Laursen has been immensely important to Villa's drive towards the CL so far this season and Cuellar has done a decent job at RB and would've been a sensible replacement for Laursen ...but if both are out...Villa's defense could look a little weaker than it was at Ashburton Grove.
     
  21. PhilaFAB

    PhilaFAB New Member

    Oct 31, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    i'd like to see nasri play a central attacking role. that's his natural spot and it'd be good to see what he can do in the middle. song and denilson can play behind him and clean up
     
  22. HomeatHighbury

    Mar 25, 2006
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    ^^^

    Agreed.

    This is going to be quite interesting.
     
  23. KirbyNYC

    KirbyNYC Member

    Aug 25, 2006
    NYC
    Damn the news about Cesc. Why do I feel like Arsenal is Apollo and Le Boss is Rocky. So hesitant/defiant despite everything thats happened to us this season.

    Don't worry though, I think the boys will fight till the end no matter what.

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  24. Asuka

    Asuka New Member

    Mar 17, 2006
    Kent
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Time to stop this 'Villa will steal Arsenal's CL spot' talk.

    I feel we'll have a chance at winning this provided we do not score early in the game, because the last couple games we saw that happen, we conceded and then were really unlucky by not capitalizing on the chances we managed to get.

    Another thing I've noticed with the boys this season is that we play way better when we come in as the underdogs. Right now the media is screaming that we're on the verge of a meltdown, so it's time to prove them wrong.

    2-1 to the Arsenal, both goals by RVP.
     
  25. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Another MASSIVE match...a loss
    could cripple us into UEFA CUP submission.

    My Prediction: 1-1

    GO ON ARSENAL, GO ON!!
     

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