FIFA's 6+5 rule: In favor or against?

I think's it's the fact that ENGLAND doesn't turn out too many star players...I mean, the face of english football today would be..Beckham or Rooney..i think it's the fact that spain,italy have players in other leagues who are stars....

which is why no one is saying ish about them....plus everyone hates the english anyway..

 

I'm in favour. Nice to see some English players on teams like Chelsea and Arsenal for a change....

 

Don't you mean Liverpool? Or are they not big enough to get mentioned.

 

Yes, we are so thin in playing English players when we played a total of .......... four English players in the CL final. Gosh how are we going to live if they pass this insipid rule?

That said, I'd take a look at some French clubs rosters if I were you guys.

Also, anyone who thinks that this will help the national teams, especially England need to look at England's qualifying history in the 70s when there were barely any foreigners playing in England.

If anything it's a silly rule, and EU laws aren't going to agree with it.

 

To me that just underscores how far removed the realities of the premiership are from the realities of your average continental football fan. Local heroes are always the cult heroes - who do you think kids will find it easier to identify with then?

 

I agree with everything you said here. The main down fall to this rule is that english players wil become even more ridiculously expensive. So English players wont go abroad as foreign teams won't buy an english player for 20 million when a they could get another nationality of player to do it for about 5 million. When will the FA realise that our caoches and system are bollox and that a burton youth centre is hardly going to change the face of english football. SPEND MORE TIME PRACTICING WITH THE BALL! This rule wont change the fact that english players dont spend as many hours practicing there football skills as many of there foreign counter parts.

P.s can someone tell me what we English have done sooooo wrong. Whats with all this hatred i mean there are some english idiots who say stupid things but there are just as many idiots from spain or brazil or holland or wherever but none of them countries gets some of the abuse england get.

Jealousy is probably the cause of most abuse and insults in life but this cant be true of england can it. Jealousy of what a NT that never really plays well a couple of the best players in the world whereas most Countries have many of the worlds best players. Jealous of the Prem? why the hell would people be jealous even though its a english league everyone gets to watch it we all enjoy its benifits the same really apart from the people going to the matches. I know i would rather have a league like brazil and still be able to watch the best leagues in the world and have more great players and win more world cups and and euro champs.

Plz someone enlighten me on whatever i seem to have done wrong??

 

The top 4are not rich due to private investment well other then chelsea but they are now rich without abram aswell. They are richer due to match day revenue and sponsorship.

Ahhh the Prawn sandwiches Myth. Yes there are loads of these kinda of people now at english football matches and theres all those ones with 10 year wembley tickets who miss the some of the second half cause there still eating there prawn sandwiches but its no where near the extent you seem to think. yeah the kop at liverpool are all eating prawn sandwiches or stretford end at old traford. There is usually just the directors area with this part going on still the otehr 95% are the same kinda fans that came before heysel and hillsborough(had more of an affect to english football stadium development then heysel) You go on about German clubs having the best stadiums in terms of financialy well the bundesliga only just has a higher attendence per game then the prem (germany its like 35,000 per match whereas the prem its 33,500 or sumat) now consider that tickest in germany are about 3 times cheaper then the prem plus the average german wage is slightlyabove that of the british wage. Therefore the prems adavantage over the bundeslige or any other league is not private investment but the fact is has more fans going to its matches and they pay much more then any other league apart from germanys in terms of amount of people, but makes a hell of alot more money then any of the german teams doo. This is offsubject any way. Although i suppose if you looked at the fans in terms of this rule, wellnothing will change really.

i couldn't care about England dominance but i just want to see English teams do there best like any other fan would from whatever country.

 

I do't think England has done anything wrong in the past 10 years- I think they've done everything right. Engalnd has created a league whose popularity and players span the globe. Anywhere in the world I travel I can talk EPL; Kenya is hardcore Arsenal, Maylasia is hardcore ManU. (I need a Chelsea country) Africa is now tuning in to see their best. The soccer is fast and exciting. People are loving it. It's a really cool thing. I understand that someone has to lose and that has been the average English player- I'd be upset too.

The main point of the 6+5 rule is protectionism; less foreign players= more domestic players= happy local culture. It is a backlash against increasing globalization and lifeline to those who are feeling threatened by changes in their culture. It's a simple battle for the soul of European soccer, local against international. I, as one of the intruding, plastic, come-lately, Stamford Bridge-tourist, ugly-American, bandwagon, non-understanding "foreigners," like the international part beacuse that includes me.

Over the last 6 months we have heard 1) FIFA say Brazilians are "taking over" national teams ,2) Platini and UEFA criticizing non-European owners , and 3) 6+5. It's pretty obvious what this is getting at.

 

well i was talking more about why english people take so much stick for being english but never mind. I think fifa would argue there tyring to keep the culture of each countries league ie prem fast frenzy matches and la ligas more slow controling play. allthough i dont see foreigners taking any of this kinda culture away at the minute. i think fifa would also claim that it would stop the top clubs dominating or whatever but i dnt really see the arguement.

In my opinion i have nothing against what the premier league is like at the minute apart from arsenal anything arsenal like as i have discussed.

 

This rule is nothing to do with local talent, it only specifies six players of the right nationality. They could be from the other end of the country and speak a different language, they'd still qualify as 'local'.

 

we need this rule in place, and lets reverse the rules on Brazil and Argentina, have there leagues full of foriegners and lets see how great they will be.

 

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/NewsFromTheFA/Postings/2008/05/FAstatement6plus5.htm

the FA is all for it.


Lets hope and Pray this happens, Im sick of seeing mediocore players taking spots in clubs, like Inter.

 

So instead we're going to see mediocre English players holding back English clubs because the managers are forced to play them. I am 100% against this rule. One of the reasons I love this sport so much is the fact that there are great players from all over the world playing at the greatest clubs and for the most part it doesn't matter who you are as long as you have talent. With this rule in place, plenty of players will get rejected simply because of their nationality and that's just wrong.

 

meh it will kill International football, how do you expect countries like Germany, Italy, England to get to the level Brazil and Argentina are at, in terms of producing quality players and loads of depth.

 

Well sucks for them they should start improving their academies and put more money into their national grassroots programs instead of applying racist rules. Maybe racist is a strong word but this is clearly discrimination based on nationality. Gets me mad.

 

You want Racist Rules check this out

The Brazil league :

In 2006, a limit on the number of foreign players was set, such that no team can have more than 3 foreign players on the field or on the bench in a single match

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campeonato_Brasileiro_Série_A

 

Yeah that is racist but that doesn't make this rule any less racist

 

That is racist...how?

It does not discriminate against any one race. You guys are fools to suggest that this is racism. It is simply something to encourage production of better homegrown talent. A little extreme? Hell yes. Are the intentions good? Yes.

Look at how much amazing talent Brazil and Argentina have put out thanks to the fact that they have so many homegrown players. Half of Brazil's 2002 World Cup winning side consisted of Brazilian based players.

Listen, I'm not defending this ruling, because I am against it, and it would destroy the premier league and the majority of Europe's top leagues. Though, it wouldn't hurt Chelsea too much....

 

It does not discriminate against one particular race, but against everyone. It pretty much says you have to play in your own country or face considerable disadvantages.

 

That's not racism though.....

 

It's discrimination which imo is a form of racism.

 

actually racism is a form of discrimination.

isn't racism because there's no rule agains any race or etnic group. this limit is because the others leagues in south america not pay very well, then most of teams could signs a start XI of south american players with 50% of price of brazilian players. they will destroy the already fragile soccer economy in brazil.

this rule is the samething that forbib USA to "buy" chinese people and put him in USA territory Industries payng the same salary in china.

 

Contradictory statement much? As stated above, racism is a form of discrimination. In reality, it does not even discriminate.

 

I see your point and you are entitled to your own opinion but imo this is racism.