Ajax downfall is owning to them buying mediocre foreigners rather than invest in their youth academy, actually. But I agree with your point generally.
What cracks me up is that US-based Chelsea and ManU and other Big Club fans are against this rule. I guess you don't want to be forced to find a new team to support eh.
You wouldn't be weakened in the long term, that's the point. It's not like English football was rubbish at the time of the 3-foreigner rule. You were managing fine without all them foreigners then.
Inter just won the scudetto fielding no Italian players while Materazzi was injured. Arsenal is a French team last time I checked, right?
Fans of all the EPL teams are against the rule. Even teams like the Portsmouths' have lots of foreigners. English are against it because they think the Big 4 will then take all the best English players and the gap will widen further.
Im an epl fan and whist i support a league 1 team i stillthink that if leicester where in the prem or ever get to the prem(seems unlikley) then i would support this rule. Why do people think that the prem teams would stop buying foreign players or even why people would stop watching the prem. Ronaldo and Fabregas and Drogba etc will still be thee and others like them will be brought when those 3 are sold on or retire or whatever man u and chelsea would not be affect greatly it would just prevent the utter disgracefull happenings of arsenal. I love players like fabregas van persie gallas etc but when a team like arsenal never gives its english players a chance ie 10 game run in the team. not just bring him on once as sub every few games. that is whats wrong. no doubt wenger will come out and say fife are racist the idiot he is. Most succesfull english champs league teams and indeed premierleague teams are usually down to a very good english core. ie rooney carrick ferdinand terry lampard j cole etc. the best english teams outside the top four usualy depend upon english players. what i see this rule doing is giving the english players a chance like justin hoyte or scott sinclair like teso mentioned. What people forget is that the premiership was created in order to make the english national team better not to create a worldwide brand and the best league in the world. it isnow no longer helping england as young english players cuming through cannot prove themselves with the top clubs because these top 4 clubs seem to think its is less risky to buy a player who has won a tittle sum where even if he has never even seen a prem game and doesn't understand how matches here are played. this rule will correct man u, chelsea, arsenal liverpool and otehrs teams misguided view that foreign is always best.
Why is the EPL used for propaganda? The top leagues in the world are full of foreigners and Spain,Italy,Germany have no problems with lack of talent in their national team or youth academy's. Its only England, and this is not because of youth. Has anyone ever thought that they are just...bad? or at least dont play well together.
Exactly. Repped. If too many foreigners could have been blamed for England missing the 1974 WC, they would have been. Same for 1994. I like the English team...but they should blame McClaren and other short-sighted decsions for their problems (Walcott in WC2006). The talent is there but it hasn't been figured out. How many years can I possibly read about the incompatability of Lampard and Gerrard?? England has the talent. This is just part of a dumb trend where everyone blames another country for some problem due to globalization. We do it here in the US all the time as does everyone. I'm losing my home-grown values, because of the foreigners etc, etc.
i Never said the premier league is making the english team worse alot of people would argue our current team is better then alot of other teams weve had (not me). I am as you might have read in some of my posts, one of the biggest critics of the english youth system with our poor coaches and rubbish sunday league system and cannot understand how the burton youth facility is going to change english players talent levels without the players spending more time on the ball rather then in practice eleven a side matches at the age of 11 when they should really only run when with the ball and practicing with the ball rather then learning then 11 a side game when so young. there should not be all these stupid sunday leagues. friendlies if you want yes but to get kids playing for points when there so young is stupid managers focusing on fitness which is something any one can gain. why dont managers/coaches spend endless hours getting kids to practice with a football so they can gain skills that take much longer to gain and are easier to to focus on whilst young. The english youth system is the main problem which i fear will not change especially if we do well in 2010 so in some ways i hope we dotn qualify again allthough im afraid we will get to the semis or sumat and people will forget the fact that england dosen't produce enough depth of quality like gerrard rooney j cole owen etc. We will always produce a few players like rooney gascoigne bobby charlton banks etc who are phenominal but we should be creating more. What annoys me is that brazillian kids or portugeeuse or italian or whoever are not born better footballers they are just taught much better and spend more time with a football its that simple. any way thats kinda off subject all i was saying is that the youngsters where not being given a chance because many english clubs can find foreign players just as gd for half the price or with more experience. what im worried about with this rule is that english players will become more ridiculously expesnive so even though the main reason english players dotn go abroad is that there is not enough talented players like rooney like some countries also there enough money abroad for you average rubbish j pennant p crouch and no better leagues but aslo english players wont be worth biuying for there stupid price as the prems so full of money the little clubs dont need to sell for cheap. I want to see more english players going abroad who can maybe get a more continental style about them and we can i feel produce many a lampard or terry or g neville so it would give the squad a little extra.
So what would change? They take all the best English players now, don't they? It's not like the Portsmouths of this world can hold on to the best English players now. I think that for a lot of clubs, not just in England, the 6+5 rule would be a good kick up the arse, inspiring them to invest more in local talent. Not just for the sake of football but also to reinforce the role of the club in the local community. Some clubs have completely alienated themselves from their local community and that's a real shame. Not that it'll ever happen mind. The EU will never budge on this.
I'm completely in favor of this as well. I do wonder how the English club will fare if they implement this though. I doubt we'd see an all-English final any time soon again. I think a rule like this would favor La Liga and Ligue 1 most. Of the big five leagues, they are least dependant on foreign stars from top to bottom.
man u it would not affect to greatly other then just giving the youngsters ago but this would happen at every club in europe including barca real or villareal or whoever in la liga to. yes there is arsenal who it would affect greatly and probably liverpool to but mostof the premierleague depends upon a core of english players and should not need to change too much.
Top to bottom, the Premier League would be affected a lot more than La Liga or Ligue 1. Apart from the big teams, there aren't all that many foreigners playing in those leagues. At least nothing close to the numbers you'd find during an average premiership game.
idk I think Serie A would be less effected than La Liga. Sure Inter would be screwed, but thats about it
I doubt that too but they'll still be a major force in European football, just like they've always been. I think it pretty weird that the English are so worried about this rule for precisely that reason. I mean surely fans universally LIKE having local players in their squad?
we won't see another all english final because it is just unlikely to happen even with the current rules. both the teams that got to the final would not have had to make that many adjustments.
The real fans do but the bandwagon, glory hunting American fans who populate this site don't care. "Arsenal America" LOL.
Look, In Spain and Italy its only the big clubs who have lots of foreigners while in England its all the teams.
I feel no more affection for Steven Taylor than I do Abdoulaye Faye. Both are awful central defenders who I would rather not have in my team. Do Milan fans feel not like having Kaka in their squad or Man United Cristiano Ronaldo? It's about the player not their passport.
Right now, the EPL is undoubtedly the best in the world. All the great players are seemingly going there, now even Brazilians. Beacuase of the foregin players, Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool have constituted aguably the best top 4 in history. Anyone of them could have won the Champions' League. The globalization of the EPL has created phenominal teams watched by everyone around the world. The EPL has envolved into something special (and a lot of $$). The post-Hiesel rehabilitation of the league is more than complete, it's domination. It's too bad none of this seems to matter to nationalist fans, but remember, there are a billion of us foreign glory hunters who watch the EPL closely. We even wanted them to play in front of us, just to see it live, but you guys got scared. It's something to be proud of people. It's ironic that the English took the game all over the world during the Empire Days, and now everything has come back to England. But alot of posters here don't seem to want it back. I can't believe you guys are really comfortable with chipping away at the incredible success and global reach of the EPL.
It wont affect england that greatly in my opinion to be honest. a few teams like liverpool and arsenal yes but most the other teams it will stop them buying foreign players who are rubbish because there cheaper. Everyone says the premier league has all the best foreigners we also have some of the worst too. No englismen wants to lose fabregas et al but we wont with this rule just means we will see more english players which english fans obviously want.
Sorry Cool Rob, this isn't intended as personal.... Probably very true at the moment for fairweather plastics, not much fun for the other 16 teams supporters in the Premiership All of them indeed, Toni, Riberi, Kaka, Messi etc, all play in England Swap "best top 4 in history" to "richest due to private instment top 4 in history" and you are probably spot on!! Well 3 phenomenal teams, even Liverpool don't fit in that group to be fair. Think you find they use Sterling not Dollars. It has also dulled down the footballing occasion, thousands of suits with prawn sandwiches chatting to thier make-up clad wives is nothing compared with the standing atmospheres in Germany's stadia (which by the way, financially speaking in terms of growth due to income - not investment - is the best in Europe) With posts like this I bet they wish they could forgot. I travel transatlantic regulary for a desk job, and it's shattering, doing it as a sportsman for no good reason makes about as much sense as your post. There is more in life than money, and there is more in England than the Premiership, they have lower leagues suffering, a lack of international success, and a desire to return to a position of dominance(or near dominance). These posters want it back more than the detractors of the idea. Yours, A Scotsman