The Vista Thread

Discussion in 'Technology' started by Stogey23, Aug 30, 2007.

  1. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    1970s, actually.
     
  2. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I thought it was 1968 but you may be right.
     
  3. Forza_Totti

    Forza_Totti Member

    Oct 16, 2006
    Toronto
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Vista does some funny things with my Multimedia Card Reader. It's a 15 in 1 reader that sometimes appears in "My Computer" and other times it does not...very strange. I've disconnected the device and reconnected it on the MB and still at times it disappears. Sometimes Vista will find new hardware and install it as a Unknown Device, then at times, it installs it as a Multimedia card reader. I've installed the software that comes with the reader, and it doesn't help. I rarely use the card reader, but the USB ports on it work, so im assuming the reader is still operational?

    Anyone else have this problem?
     
  4. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    You might be right, but it's sort of academic anyway. Point is that all of the more widespread operating systems are at their core pretty old.
     
  5. JeffS

    JeffS New Member

    Oct 15, 2001
    Cameron Park, CA
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    Everton FC
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    United States
    That's mostly a good thing - it means mature, robust, working code.
     
  6. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    Hence my decision to stick with XP until it's inconvenient for me to continue to do so.
     
  7. usasoccerhooligan

    May 1, 2005
    i really haven't had many problems at all with Vista for the 10 months i've had it. *knocks on wood* it really does work well with 2GB, but since i bought a new notebook, i didn't have to upgrade. having never upgraded my memory, i'm not sure how much of a hassle it is.

    i don't know if i'm lucky with Vista so far or if i just have a higher tolerance of problems with computers than people with a lot more knowledge of computers than i, like some in this thread, and people with little knowledge of computers, like my mother.

    really, the "droves" of people switching to other OS's could be a blessing. if the loss of market share gets big enough, Microsoft may be forced to really rethink its direction for Windows and bring in new ideas and people. granted, Windows still is the main OS, and i don't see that changing too soon.
     
  8. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    They can't really do this. Because OS's take so long to program, they have multiple teams working on multiple versions of future operating systems at the same time. The plans for at least the next two versions are already set.
     
  9. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    The only way they could really do this is the same way they developed Windows NT in that they spent several years developing the new OS while continuing the ongoing development of the current OS in parallel.

    In the case of Windows NT, they started development in late 1989 and didn't release it until 1993. In the meantime, they released Windows 3.0 and 3.1 and continued their part of the OS/2 partnership for a year or two. (In fact, Windows NT originally began development as the next major version of OS/2.)

    So yeah, if MS decided that Windows wasn't cutting it anymore and started fresh, you wouldn't see anything for another five years at the very least. But they haven't come to that sort of conclusion and there really hasn't been the sort of mass exodus away from Windows that would lead them to that conclusion. In the meantime, you'd still ongoing work on Vista and Windows 7.
     
  10. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    Have those complaining about Vista even bothered to disable what they do not require or tweaked the OS at all?


    Regardless, I've just ordered a new laptop and I intend on running Vista Ultimate. I'll probably go with 64-bit as well. One you do the above Vista is a very good OS.
     
  11. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Fry's was having a sale on SD cards, and I got a 2gb one even though I didn't really need it for my camera. But I heard that you can plug in a USB drive and Vista would use it as a cache, and when I tried it with the SD card it worked. And it works well - there is far less access to the hard disk for normal operations, and certain file operations are quicker. I recommend people do this if they have a free USB port or unused memory card slot in their computers.
     
  12. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

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    Apologies if you have already mentioned this but have much RAM does your system have?
     
  13. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I have 3GB.
     
  14. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Thought you guys might find this interesting...

    http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/25/et-tu-intel/index.html?ref=technology

    Et Tu, Intel? Chip Giant Won’t Embrace Microsoft’s Windows Vista

    Intel, the giant chip maker and longtime partner of Microsoft, has decided against upgrading the computers of its own 80,000 employees to Microsoft’s Vista operating system, a person with direct knowledge of the company’s plans said.

    The person, who has been briefed on the situation but requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of Intel’s relationship with Microsoft, said the company made its decision after a lengthy analysis by its internal technology staff of the costs and potential benefits of moving to Windows Vista, which has drawn fire from many customers as a buggy, bloated program that requires costly hardware upgrades to run smoothly.


    There's also this, which some of you might have missed...

    http://gizmodo.com/5019516/classic-clips-bill-gates-chews-out-microsoft-over-xp

    With Bill Gates saying good-bye to Microsoft this week, we're realizing more by the day how much we'll miss the guy. And when reading through the many interviews floating around this week, we came across this jewel from 2003. A leaked memo from Microsoft, it's several pages of Gates just laying into his design and programming staff for—among other issues—his personal experience when trying to install Windows Moviemaker. And it's a very fulfilling read if you've ever been frustrated by a Microsoft product.

    Great stuff :D
     
  15. usasoccerhooligan

    May 1, 2005
    wow, that email was magical.
     
  16. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    It makes no sense for companies to belatedly switch to Vista at this stage. I find it neither interesting nor surprising.
     
  17. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Are you saying they should have changed earlier? If so, why?
    What... The email or Vista? :confused:
     
  18. TeamUSA

    TeamUSA Member

    Nov 24, 1999
    Tianjin, China
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Figured I needed to resurface this debate. As my current computer is nearing it's end I'll be purchasing a new one and wondered if anything has changed with attitudes of Vista vs. XP. Currently run XP and very happy with it.

    Anyone have new thoughts or recommendations?
     
  19. Toon³

    Toon³ Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Avoid Vista. Windows 7 will probably be released before the end of the year and from all reports it's far better than Vista
     
  20. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    If you're happy with XP you can stick with it, but you will get Vista installed with the new machine anyway and I don't think there is any good reason to go through the process of uninstalling it and installing XP. Vista has some annoyances, but so do all OS's, and it comes with some cool features and the ability to play the latest generation of games. Try it for a few weeks at least.
     
  21. Dadinho

    Dadinho Member

    Feb 19, 2005
    San Diego
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    Vitoria Salvador
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Until recently, I owned computers with Mac, XP, and Linux. My Macbook crapped out, so over christmas I bought a computer that came loaded with Vista. My intentions were to remove Vista and put XP on it. I later realized that a driver I needed wasn't available for XP.

    I have loaded Ubuntu, but I still find myself using and actually liking Vista a lot more than I'd expected. I prefer MacOS, but Vista is a good OS.
     
  22. Boundzy

    Boundzy BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 1, 2003
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've been using the 64-bit version of Vista for about 6 months with no problems. Are there specific apps, peripherals, or hardware that you are concerned about?
     
  23. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Isn't that what they said about Vista and it's advantages over XP.
     
  24. Toon³

    Toon³ Member

    Dec 27, 2002
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    Newcastle United FC
    Shhh the black helicopters will hear you and take you away
     
  25. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Don't worry... I've got my hat on :)

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