What players make the backbone of our squad for the NT

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  1. kontrol-ball-Germany

    Jul 22, 2006
    Western Europe
    If you had the choice to include 4 players that the team cannot do without who would they be?

    What players form the backbone of our squad?

    or

    Which players are a must if we are to get far in the Euro?

    Are we at a level where we have all round good squad that we can do well without some of our top players?

    4 players with potential to be future key players?

    Rank your players 1-4

    I don’t get to see much of Bayern, well I did with the champions league but are Schewni and Poldi still promising players?

    In terms of future prospects are Prinice Boateng and Toni Kroos a cut above the rest when compared to their U-21 team mates? I know Kroos has featured for the senior team.

    Lahm would definitely feature in my top 4 for the sheer potential he has, I would want to put Ballack and Frings but have not seen much of them lately, although i did see Ballack against Austria. Good performance.

    Lehmann on form would make it as one of the top 3 goal keepers at international level would u agree?

    Will the Klose and Poldi partnership still feature strongly? As that was one of our good points during wc06. Poldi has not been given much time with Bayern.

    IMO Metzelder has been a superb defender for Germany in the past but im not sure if he gets the playing time he needs at Madrid, does he or will he still factor in for Germany as first choice? Should he?
     
  2. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This is a loaded topic.

    It's hard to narrow it down to just four "key" players. Unlike other NT, Klinsmann and Loew created a system where every player is a cog in the system, one that lives and breathes together. All players depend on each other to make things work on the pitch.

    If Germany are going to win the tournament this summer players like Klose, Ballack, Mertesacker and Frings will have to play really really well. Modern football is all about midfield control and neutralizing the opponent. Frings and Ballack will have to do that in addition to attacking. Klose is our main source of goals of course. Every successful team needs a top class goalscorer in form. Furthermore, we'll need a disciplined and organized defense. There will be teams in the tournament that play a distinct offensive brand of football (Croatia, Portugal to name a few) and we'll need to be ready against them and not make schoolboy errors.

    Speaking of young talents for the future. Kroos is a no brainer, not only talent wise but also as a potential leader and center of the team. I'm not so sure about Boateng. I feel funny about him, he seems to have a huge attitude problem and an unhealthy arrogance.
     
  3. deleted

    deleted Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    kontrol_ball_germany, have you been living on mars for the last year or two? :)

    boateng!

    haahahahahahahahahahahahaha
     
  4. Aran

    Aran New Member

    May 25, 2007
    Merte-Lahm
    Ballack-Frings
    Klose-Mario
     
  5. Cirdan

    Cirdan Member

    Sep 12, 2007
    Jena (Germany)
    1 Mertesacker. Imho the most important player for our squad right now, not so much because he is the greatest player and our game totally relys on him, but because there are no replacements even close to his quality. Especially with Metze injured and not being a starter in Madrid and Lehmann not a starter and not in his best form our defense would be in serious trouble without Mertesacker.

    2-4 Ballack, Schneider, Frings. There are lots of very good players for our midfield, replacing anyone of them wouldn't be a big problem, but with 2 or all 3 of them missing, we might lack experienced and talented leaders. Frings is currently injured and it is possible that he won't make it in time for the EURO, Schneider is recovering, but not in form yet and Ballack is in good shape.

    other key players:
    - Lehmann, I would have played with Enke already last year, but now introducing a new keeper might cause more harm to the team spirit than it's worth.
    - Klose, definitely a very important part of the team right now, however with Gomez, Kuranyi, Kießling and Podolski there are so many quality strikers that missing Klose wouldn't do that much harm
    - Lahm might be one of the most talented German players right now, however he has not been playing all that great this season so far, partly due to injuries, and there are loads of good German wing defenders: Castro, Westermann, Jansen, Fritz, Schulz...


    Prospects for the future:

    K-P Boateng seems to make his way in Tottenham, he did play regularly recently, but I haven't seen anything of him there. If he makes it in the EPL, I wouldn't rule him out as a future nt star.

    All agree that our biggest prospect is Kroos, most name Marin and Özil as other possible nt starters, J Boateng plays a pretty good season as a defender, he might be one to watch, I have heard that Toni Kroos younger brother Felix would be another great talent, but that's more of a rumour.
     
  6. +Gooner+

    +Gooner+ Member

    Dec 20, 2006
    In the Pampas
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Mertesacker (never leave us, OMG! What would we do without him!?), Klose, Lahm, Lehmann (bar his Austria meltdown :D), Ballack, Frings and Schneider (in top form).
     
  7. Projekt4

    Projekt4 Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Lübeck
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    "meltdown" finally is a description we can agree on:p

    Regarding Mertesacker, I saw Hummels play for the first time earlier this, he was very solid, and (rather unlike Mertesacker) he seems to play excellent passes out of defense, apparently he has been a mainstay of the U-21 squad already for a while now and he just turned 19 in December, so that looks all very promising (in terms of long-term prospects), although it also says something about our shortage of great centrebacks.
     
  8. +Gooner+

    +Gooner+ Member

    Dec 20, 2006
    In the Pampas
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Haha, that was a meltdown, can't describe it in another way. But that is the reason why I am not worried. Some goalkeepers clearly are out of form but this was a matter of, shit, big mistake, I'll get that cross, crap, next one! He lost his nerves. Had he not made the first mistake he might have had an excellent game.

    The more prospects for the future the better but right now Merte is the man. And he is still young so he has still lots of time left to improve his passing game. It's amazing how calm and reliable he is. Metzelder usually has his fine games when it matters but he is always prone to doing something really stupid despite a good deal of experience.
     
  9. Projekt4

    Projekt4 Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Lübeck
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Oh, I wasn't looking for someone to replace Mertesacker, but for someone who might partner him on the long run...
     
  10. kontrol-ball-Germany

    Jul 22, 2006
    Western Europe

    Thanks there is a lot to this topic and good post forever

    Good one, from when i saw him play he has ability, although how he uses that for the NT is another question.



    So would it be fair to say we are the strongest we have been for the over the last 8 years?

    Say that only 50% of our top players are fit and on form i.e. a selection of the above players mentioned, are we still a contendor for the Euro?


    I know its sounds like a very closed question but are we better defensively than we are in attack or is it the other way round?
     
  11. +Gooner+

    +Gooner+ Member

    Dec 20, 2006
    In the Pampas
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    In full strength we are pretty good both at the back and up front. Result wise we score a shit load of goals but would also have a fantastic defensive record of not for the Czech Rep. game spoiling it a bit. I blame Hildebrand. ;)

    The biggest problem, injuries aside, remains a certain lack of will (surly not a problem during a tournament though) and a lack of experience on some positions. Compared to Italy we are still a young and sometimes naive team.
     
  12. Homa

    Homa Member

    Feb 4, 2008
    Aachen
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yes, I would definitly say this is the strongest squad since at least 1998. Just thinking about the dreg of 2000 and especially 2004 just gives me the shivers. brrrrrrrrrrr
    Hopefully those days will never ever return.

    I think Ballack is still our most important player, following just behind comes Mertesacker. I'm not really concerned about Metzelder, who, at least for me, is nothing special. I think we have more than enough players to replace him. I mean being a Real-Defender is not really an accolade in contrast to their offense. ,)

    No, we wont be a contender if half of the top players are missing. Very few teamscould replace such a quality drop off.

    I think our offense is better than our defence. The defence of last 2-3 years simply looked shakey at times, while the offense usually scores at least one goal per game usually more.
     
  13. Cirdan

    Cirdan Member

    Sep 12, 2007
    Jena (Germany)
    Yes. I'd even say we have the strongest team since 1996, since in 1998 the nt players were already past their prime and overrated.

    Depends a bit on who gets injured, like I said, while Metzelder and Mertesacker fit and in form are pretty good, their replacements are not so good, I think the rest could be replaced without too much of a drop in quality, however I wouldn't bet on a team that had little practice together. Bottomline, with 4 or 5 players of the usual starting line up injured, I wouldn't count us as a main contender, but miracles happen.

    Since the world cup, I'd actually say we are better in defense than in offense, at least with Mertesacker and Metzelder as center backs. Our offense has no problems crushing minnows, but they struggle as soon as they come across a team that plays with pressing and is good in that. Except for the match against the Czechs and to a lesser extent the Austrians, the defense had less problems imho.
     

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