Ligue 1 TV rights sold for €668 million per year

Discussion in 'UEFA and Europe' started by Nico Limmat, Feb 8, 2008.

  1. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    That's USD 969 million. Unless I'm mistaken that's second best in UEFA.
     
  2. Cirdan

    Cirdan Member

    Sep 12, 2007
    Jena (Germany)
    Yep, it's an incredible lot of money. But on the other hand, it was already about the same before.
     
  3. SportBoy333

    SportBoy333 Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    It may be second best but they will still be way behind the top leagues in terms of wealth and team budgets. The high taxes in France and the dncg are the reason for that. This deal will give teams a little more money to spend but you cant expect anything drastic from the current situation.
     
  4. Cirdan

    Cirdan Member

    Sep 12, 2007
    Jena (Germany)
    Low attendances and sponsorships play a big role... And this deal will give the teams hardly more money to spend than now, since the money is almost the same... I think the league gets around 30 mio more, that's in the best case 1.5 mio per team, not much.
     
  5. SportBoy333

    SportBoy333 Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    Ok yeah to sum it all up so basically even though its the 2nd largest tv deal, its nothing much to get excited about if you are a Ligue 1 fan.

    As for low attendances, they are on a par with Serie A but way behind Germany and England which is why they need this tv deal because their gate receipts arent as high. Sponsorships I have no idea.
     
  6. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Not according to the budget numbers I've seen. Here are Ligue 1 estimates of the 2006/2007 season by encoredufoot.com:

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    I would say that compares well with the Bundesliga and many teams in Serie A.
     
  7. SportBoy333

    SportBoy333 Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    Not with the top tier. Mid tier and low tier maybe.
     
  8. Homa

    Homa Member

    Feb 4, 2008
    Aachen
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Re: Ligue 1 TV rights sold for €668 million per year

    It depends on what "budget" in that table means in comparison to the Bundesliga
    If it means total revenue, then yes, they have considerably less than the Bundesliga teams at least the top to mid tiers. If it means salaries, they would have a considerable advantage.
     
  9. NicolasN.

    NicolasN. Member

    Oct 25, 2007
    France
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    This is outdated. France Football published right before the current season the budget of every single team in L1 :

    1° OL 145 Millions d'Euros
    2° Marseille 90 Millions d'Euros
    3° PSG 70 Millions d'Euros
    4° Bordeaux 53 Millions d'Euros.
    5° Monaco 50 Millions d'Euros.
    6° Lens 45 Millions d'Euros.
    7° Lille 45 Millions d'Euros.
    8° Saint-Etienne 45 Millions d'Euros.
    9° Sochaux 45 Millions d'Euros.
    10° Toulouse 40 Millions d'Euros.
    11° Rennes 39 Millions d'Euros.
    12° Nancy 30 Millions d'Euros.
    13° Strasbourg 28 Millions d'Euros.
    14° Caen 27 Millions d'Euros.
    15° Nice 27 Millions d'Euros.
    16° Valenciennes 26,4 Millions d'Euros.
    17° Auxerre 25 Millions d'Euros.
    18° Le Mans 25 Millions d'Euros.
    19° Metz 24 Millions d'Euros.
    20° Lorient 23 Millions d'Euros.

    I completely agree with Sportboy.

    A french club has to give a gross salary about 2 or 3 times higher for a player to earn the same net pay as he could earn in Spain, Italy...
    I hope my explanation is good enough.
     
  10. shahz_nerazzurri

    shahz_nerazzurri New Member

    Oct 25, 2005
    Second highest in Europe?? I am finding that a little hard to believe.


    And lol at the gross salary being 2-3 times high, just to get the same net. In Italy taxes are incredibly high at 47%, In England they are 40%, and in Spain 30%. I hardly doubt that the highest tax rate in France will be more than 50%.
     
  11. mattteo

    mattteo Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    ??

    Italy and France have similar taxes on high salaries...
     
  12. Homa

    Homa Member

    Feb 4, 2008
    Aachen
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Re: Ligue 1 TV rights sold for €668 million per year

    But there are not only the taxes. In Germany, f.e. a employer has to pay half of health insurance and some more social insurances of an employee. While the top tax rate is just above 40% (I think 42%), the club has to pay additional 20-30%, which will most likely never be noticed by a player.

    I'm not sure, but I think there were states till the 90s, where football players were registered as artists or something and had only to pay the lowest tax bracket. If I remember right, players from 1.FC Köln had to live in Belgium, so that the club had to pay less. Spain, as far as I know, had something similar. I do not know, if these privileges were scrapped in the last years. If not, it could explain, why Spanish teams are able to get more high priced foreign players than f.e. Italy or Germany, where the clubs have similar budgets.
     
  13. SportBoy333

    SportBoy333 Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    Nope.
     
  14. mattteo

    mattteo Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    yes, definitely. Not even 10% difference, and France, while on pure income has a slightly higher tax than Italy (we have 46%, you have 50-something), has many more deductions than us. It's not like Ibrahimovic comes to Italy rather than France because of the difference in income derived from taxation.
     
  15. Homa

    Homa Member

    Feb 4, 2008
    Aachen
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Re: Ligue 1 TV rights sold for €668 million per year

    I stumbled by pure chance on a study conducted by Ernst&Young in 2005/06 about the future development of German professional football. In one chapter they talk about the real costs of labour, obviously in a simplified manner and compared it to other European countries, f.e. England, Spain, France, Italy.

    The outliers were France, where a club had to pay double the amount of taxes and dues to reach a similar netto salary compared to Germany or England, and foreign players in Spain and the Netherlands, who only apply a flat tax of 30% and 25% to expatriates.
    Spanish Clubs have to pay nearly two thirds lower taxes for a foreign player as English, Italian or German clubs. The costs for native players were pretty comparable to the costs in other countries. In the Netherlands even higher than the average.

    You can download the study here http://www.sponsors.de/uploads/tx_svsstudiengaenge/Fussballstudie_2006.pdf
    Unfortunately it is in German. The pages for the salary cost comparisons are on 26ff. They use some nice tables and graphics to illustrate their point, so you could probably understand them without understanding German.
     
  16. zippy85

    zippy85 Red Card

    Jul 4, 2007
    England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Do you know where i can find the T'V deals for the spanish cubs which sell on their own, i know Real Mandid and Barcelona's deals are huge but i have always wondered what the deals for clubs like Valencia and Sevilla were?

    If you don't know it's o.k, i'm going to have a look myself with google.

    P.S Wow i never new the French league was so rich, if this carries on the next contract could see thm break into th top 3 if they get the attendances up and sponsorship so they can keep their players.
     
  17. Homa

    Homa Member

    Feb 4, 2008
    Aachen
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Re: Ligue 1 TV rights sold for €668 million per year

    Sorry, but I can't help you there. The Ernst&Young study says that Barcelona gets 125Mio€ per year for their national tv rights. They assumed that Real will probably get deals in the same sphere. They dont say anything else about Spanish clubs, only that they dealt with tv deals in more depth in an earlier study, which I do not have.
     
  18. Catel

    Catel Member

    Dec 18, 2006
    Lyon, France
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Anyway this money will be no use to buy ourselves good players.

    Why ? Simply because nobody wants to come in Ligue 1. Ricardo Oliveira had a better proposition from Lyon than Milan but he preferred try his luck and lose in Italy.

    So we have to overpay for average players. That's why we hate losing our players to the 3 big leagues: even if we earn a lot of money, it is no use.
     
  19. zippy85

    zippy85 Red Card

    Jul 4, 2007
    England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

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