Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more Iván ‘el cholo’ Trujillo to the MLS according to Dept Cali official site if that is not enough both Jamerson Olave and Chiguiro" Benitez are also might be going there !!! is it the new mexico for colombains... a few years ago there were like 15 of us there..... and it looks like the MLS is doing that I mean these players arent the best out there but see it as a little bad to have so many players going to the MLS, not cause it sucks but because their break is over 4 months every year and that can kill a player for us. Like Id love to have Toja come play a few friendlies for us but how could he.... if come game time against peru he will be inactive for over 5 months
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more I love it Ihope more and younger Colombian join the MLS. by the way with which teams would those guys join?
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more they havent said yet... just that they are going to the MLS... Olvave might be going to Millos if they cant get him in the MLS... think its cause the Americans pay right away and with dollars i guess its not a huge deal cause its not like any of these players are super good or anything, they are just players their teams dont want and its better than going to Boliva or venezuela like Cali is doing with their other unwanted players I wish them all the best and think Olvave might come to NYRB because thats what Osorio is looking for in colombia a CB
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more that I could see happening, imo I though Olave was better than Nelson Rivas. I havent seen him play the whole year. Last time I saw him play was when they played Copa and came in runner ups vs Pasto. During that time I though Olvae was better than Rivas. I'm guessing he fell off. PS Osorio traigase ha Stalin Motta o at least someone like Sherman Cardenas, Metro need a creative mid that plays on the left!
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more hell no .... Cardenas in the MLS would be a sin.... Boca and teams in spain wanted the kid last year and Buca said no!!! dont think they will let him go to the MLS ahha.... why dont u try to take ospina as well Motta wont happen either nacional/cucuta are after him and if he goes to either he will be in arg/brasil or europe untill a colombia player goes to the mls and then goes to europe... I dont think a big name player in our league will make that jump or sink with that ship if u look at all the ones who are going or went its for money or because they arent wanted or doing well on their teams
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more thats the problem, its a catch 22, the guys that do guy to MLS arent good enough to jump to Europe. Thus Colombians that are good enough think its a graveyard and dont go there. Hope fully a guy that is good enough to use MLS as a stepping stone does decide to go to MLS after all a lot of former MLS players(US guys) are in Europe( McBride, Dempsey, Wolf, Howard, Gibbs, Beasley, Convey, etc). SO its not like its impossible to go from MLS to Europe, its just the image Colombians have(its reverse discrimination, hahahahaha). edit just found this on futbolred.com http://www.futbolred.com/default.asp?link=noticia&idn=16161 it says reports are being confirmed that Olvae is joining Millos after all. Damn there goes a cb that Metro could have used.
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more these players go to europe because of what they do on the US national team not because of what they do on the MLS, same with the mexican players taht are being exported TOja is the best d-mid in the MLS and no one talks about him, but the kid had 6 goals and hadnt even played in a year.... because the players taht are going to europe in MLS are all U.S players so that euros can break the US market which is untapped and huge buyin a toja wont do taht
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more Not entirely true, Tim Howard, Micheal Bradley, Freddy Adu, Danny Szetela, Danny Califf and Dempsey all played in the MLS and had no playing time for the NT before they went to Europe. Then there are a dozen or so that did both there play for club and country in the MLS and were sent packing. There are also none American players that go from MLS to Europe. Off the top off my head the now Captain for Blackburn Rovers CB Ryan Nelson was at DC United before he was spotted and sent packing. If Toja wont have gotten hurt I'm sure there would have been some interest by teams in Europe. About him being the best D-mid it's debatable but Ricardo Clark and Shalrie Joseph I'm sure would have something to say about that. I've already responded to you about this, but to think that professional futbol clubs buy players and start them just so they can get into a market is just silly.
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more Toja a d mid I felt he played as a left winger, btw any body have any pics or vid of Luis Carlos Cabezas playing?
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more they need to import refs.... what they did today to the final of the precopa libertadores was an atrocity! that guy was dumb and bad...un animal de 2 patas: KEVIN STOTT que cosa tan bruta - they need refs...............................pls
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more LOL, very true. The guy Kevin is pretty bad. What did he do? What game was it and I'll look it up myself I know it could take a while to explain.
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more add gonzalo martinez to the list. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/11/AR2008011103290.html
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more dude why do you call it metro, that team doesn't exist anymore
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more I admit Galaxy wanted to sell tickets. I think they could have gotten a better player for a third of the money. Maybe not most high valued players want to stay in Euroupe. IMO he is still a good player. He got Real Madrid on track last year and he is the reason they won La Liga. They did want him to stay. Crzd is saying the reverse. That European teams purchase Americans just to get into the US market. What market? I dont see that at all Americans dont care about soccer. How many people do you see walking around with a Hannover, Derby, Rangers, West Ham, Benfica, Racing de Santander, Heerenveen, PSV or Fulham jerseys? I've seen zero so what is the US market buying? tickets sales? No but seriously I think hes mistaken and gives the US players no credit. They start or get serious playing time in the teams there on. Your point on Beckham is well taken and true. Thats why there no good. I have to admit that Beckham played very little and I will have to see how they do this next coming year. They did give Pachuca a run for there money and either team could have won it at the end. When Pachuca won they acted like they won the World Cup or something. The US is getting better weather people like it or not.
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more Iván ‘el cholo’ Trujillo is going to kansas city Wizards
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more To me its just another name for Red Bull NY, its shorter and I like how it sounds, on top of that I was a fan of theirs before the name change when some hard core fans then called them Metro. To me its like saying La Mechita instead of America de Cali, or River instead of Club Atletico River Plate, or Inter instead of Internazionale FC or Boca instead Club Atletico Boca Juniors, or Barca instnstead of Barcelona Futbol Club or 'Pool instead of Liverpool Football CLub, or Yanks instead of The New York Yankees. If that bothers you.... well....sucks for you cuz I'm gonna keep calling them Metro. To me if someone understands what team I'm talking about when I say Metro, IMO chances are they follow MLS closely, and if they themselves call the club Metro imo they probaly follow and support the team closely! IMO its like an inside thing.
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more With the exception of La Mechita all the teams you cited are shortened versions on the team's name. So they're nothing like calling Redbulls Metro, as I don't see the letters m-e-t-r-o in Redbulls. I also notice you live in Florida, I have lived in NJ/NY since I was 5. When Metrostars was first formed, a friend of mine had a boyfriend that played for Mterostars. Alot of them didn't like that name, and I never learned of any "hardcore" fans. To me, the team doesn't exist anymore, it's def. not River or Barca, I'll tell you that. I kind of like the Redbulls, I feel like its a little more masculine than "metrostars", which in case you didn't know was the butt of the "metrosexual stars" joke for quite some time.
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more que oportunidad real tiene el trujillo de ser titular? desde que se fue el Mutiny...me aleje de la MLS (solo de dallas o dynamo se un pokito)
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more Ivan is going to replace Johnson who scored 15 goals last season think that Kansas fans will be really dissapointed haha on a side not they are saying Johnson will be signed for $5 million !!!! how does the MLS sell players for more than the Mexi league
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more hoy el diario elpais.com de cali tiene un analisis profundo de los Colombianos en MLS debate: es mejor MLS o se pierden....? es parte de las preguntas del elcolombiano .com en seccion capsulas, donde casi todos los participantes son the new jersey o new york hoy creo que avisaron que jair benitez pasaria a MLS y no al tolima.
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more Apparantly a Columbian defender is coming to RSL. https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=13647565#post13647565 From what I have read in this thread and from other articles, it sounds like it could be Jamilson Olave (although reported that he may be going to Millionarios) or Jair Benitez. Any thoughts on these two guys other than what's already in this thread? Is the Olave to Millionarios a definite? This article dated yesterday seems to indicate that he is coming to MLS http://www.elpais.com.co/paisonline/deportes2003/notas/Enero152008/depor02.html
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more realfans: Deportivo cali has invested tons od pesos for a colombian team, they have no results to show for....great fan base and organization for futbol only excuse me If fo not use the word, socc er ...... is nasty and means nothing to me, lets talk about futbol! OLAVE: other than what you already hear in here, yesterday club Millonarios anounced other players than OLAVE, I hear an interview with the DT....that he felt sorry for not having to finish the deal for the denfender -olave- as a result they got other seasoned back center named Luis Asprilla. why realsalt lake is after Olave? or is DC united........ MLS still dealing for player's contracts and then allocation? I had hope you guys got rid of that horrid system. In any case, Other name just came up: JAIR BENITEZ, AKA el chiguiro - he has NO FANS in this forum, but I had followed him in our club, for years he played with deportivo Independiente medellin (as he is from the region as Asprilla and Olave - state known as VALLE DEL CAUCA). Jair made large steps and became colombian champ with our club....then the eye of the national team coach was interssted and got some games with the nats...as international caps are only 6 or 7 he is a solid left back defender, that has a large tank of oxygen to run up and down the left flank (for his size), then he moved to Deportivo cali for a 6 months loan with option to buy for 300,000 dollars, they did that in 2005 and secure the player in that roster (at the time they have a coach Pedro sarmiento, a guy that had coached Jair at DIM in the past) as sarmiento got sacked from dept cali...jair lost his place on the main eleven and his team poor performances of last year, plus 2 DTs in one season made his departure a clear one.... He can run, steal balls easy, take free kicks that demand precision passes (bot not in the net), some corners kicks, I have even seen Jair taking PKs, but he es NOT good defending air balls...... He is not the youngest also....so his motivation will have to be dollars and a good relation with any new DT.
Re: Colombians to the MLS.... and then there are more Thanks for the info. It sounds like we should pray that its Olave over Benitez. Its also possible that it is someone not yet mentioned. We'll have to wait and see. RSL definitely needs help along the backline, and hopefully this turns out to be a player of quality.