Ah, good points, but I think that the KC result is still important to Colorado's chances: If Colorado wins, Chicago draws LA, and: ...KC wins, then KC is in and Colorado and Chicago tie on points at 38. Colorado would then win the two-team tie-breaker based on goal differential. ...KC draws, then KC, Chi and Colorado are all tied on points at 38. The three-way tiebreaker would (according to my interpretation of the rules at least) have Chicago take the highest position based on win/loss record among the 3 teams that are tied. Then there would be a second tie-breaker between Colorado and KC which would be determined by goal differential first, and then goals scored second if goal differential is tied. I believe that Colorado would have to win by 3 goals vs. RSL in order to pass KC on GD assuming KC ties this weekend. ...KC loses, then Colorado is in. I believe that all of those scenarios are covered in the list I made, but I'll re-check it.
You missed the KC win/Chi draw scenario, and the KC draw/Chi draw scenario (while clinching for Colorado according to the MLS press release) is the subject of much discussion in may BigSoccer threads right now and nobody has the 100% for sure answer yet.
Revised with one more scenario added for Colorado Colorado scenarios to clinch playoffs Colorado win vs. RSL and any of the following also happen: KCW lose @ FCD LAG win @ Chi LAG draw @ Chi and KCW win @ FCD KC draws Dallas and Colorado's winning margin against RSL is 3 or more goals +++++++++ KC scenarios to clinch playoffs KC win @ FCD KC draw @ FCD and Colorado do not win vs. RSL by more than 2 goals KC lose @ FCD, but Colorado either lose or draw vs. RSL +++++++++ LA scenarios to clinch playoffs LA win @ Chi, and either Colorado lose or draw vs RSL, or KC lose @ FCD ++++++++ Chicago scenarios to clinch playoffs CHI win vs. LA or CHI draw vs. LA, and either Colorado lose or draw vs. RSL, or KC lose or draw @ FCD or CHI lose vs. LA, but both Colorado lose or draw vs. RSL, and KC lose @ FCD ++++++++ Houston scenarios to clinch #1 seed in Western Conference Houston win @ Chivas ++++++++ Chivas scenarios to clinch #1 seed in Western Conference Chivas win or draw vs. Houston
Ok, that makes sense (to the poster who explained how Chi and LA could both get in). I was confused by this: KC scenarios to clinch playoffs * KC win or draw @ FCD or * KC lose @ FCD, but Colorado either lose or draw vs. RSL The second scenario didn't mention anything about the LA/Chi game.
Latest MLS Playoff Race Update They're still confused... CHI draws, KC draws, COL wins = CHI clinches. CHI draws ("LA fails to win"), KC draws, COL wins = KC clinches. CHI draws, KC draws, COL wins = COL clinches. Since it's impossible for all three of CHI/COL/KC to qualify, one of the above is wrong. (It's still wrong even if you fix the apparent typo and change LA to Chicago in the KC scenario).
It doesn't say that. If you change it to "COL wins by less than 3", then it does say that, and then your 2nd and 3rd examples don't contradict.
Read it again. The KC draw scenario says "if either one of the following" occur, not both. According to the release, a KC draw and "LA fails to win" is all that is needed for KC to clinch, regardless of the COL result. The COL win scenario is also "any one of the following", which would mean that a COL win and a CHI draw is enough for COL to clinch regardless of margin of victory or KC result.
KC draws, 38 pts. Col wins 4-0, 38 pts and better goal differential. I think you meant "Chicago fails to win". Because "LA fails to win" could means Chicago winning, and if that happens, then KC can draw and still be out on goal diff vs. Colorado.
I'm just quoting the MLS press release. I already pointed out the probable typo above. It's still wrong even if that is corrected.
How $@$@%! stupid do they have to be at this point? This has gone beyond minor annoyance to embarrassing.
Wow - and Kansas City and Colorado are playing at nearly the same time. I wonder if my computer can handle having two games going at once on mlslive.tv. Never tried it before but this is going to have to be the first attempt.
... The "Beckham and The Landonauts" are still alive update ... Code: [b][U] GP W L D PTS GR MPP PPG T# M# SSE#[/U] 1 DCU 30 16 7 7 55 0 55 1.83 - - X 2 CDC 30 15 7 8 53 0 53 1.77 - - - 3 HOU 30 15 8 7 52 0 52 1.73 - - - 4 NER 30 14 8 8 50 0 50 1.67 - - - 5 FCD 30 13 12 5 44 0 44 1.47 - - - 6 NYR 30 12 11 7 43 0 43 1.43 - - - 7 KCW 30 11 12 7 40 0 40 1.33 - - - 8 CHI 29 9 10 10 37 1 40 1.28 - 1* - ------------------------------------------------------- [COLOR="SlateGray"]9 CMB 30 9 11 10 37 0 37 1.23 - - - 10 COL 30 9 13 8 35 0 35 1.17 - - -[/COLOR] 11 LAG 29 9 13 7 34 1 37 1.17 1* 4 - [COLOR="SlateGray"]12 RSL 30 6 15 9 27 0 27 0.90 - - - 13 TFC 30 6 17 7 25 0 25 0.83 - - -[/COLOR] * Chicago clinches with a win or a draw. Los Angeles clinches with a win because they own the tiebreaker against Chicago. Teams in [COLOR="SlateGray"]gray[/COLOR] have been eliminated from the playoffs. MPP = Most Points Potential = PTS + (3*GR) T# = Tragic Number = MPP – (8th Place PTS) + 1 M# = Magic Number = (Highest 9th to 13th Place MPP) – PTS + 1 SSE# = SS Elimination Number = MPP - (1st Place PTS) + 1 [/b] Code: [B]Remaining League Schedule CDC: --- CHI: LAG CMB: --- COL: --- DCU: --- FCD: --- HOU: --- KCW: --- LAG: @CHI NER: --- NYR: --- RSL: --- TFC: --- [/B]
So it comes down to the LA-Chicago matchup afterall. What a dream finale. The ratings should be great. Regardless who wins, the playoff matchups are verrry solid: 1. If LAG goes thru, the Chivas-Gals rivalry goes to a whole new level and Becks mania rises again! If Chicago takes that last West spot, you have Blanco to help rile up those sleeping Chivas fans. That also allows for the potential that Chicago could win the Western Conf as an East team! 2. Houston and Dallas gives us the Texas derby. Excellent. Just erase those gridiron lines before gametime fellas. 3. DC gets the supposedly weaker KC which helps in their quest to play the MLS Cup at home. (Watch out, here comes the Wizards!) MLS poobahs must hope for a DC vs. LA or Chicago championship (hey, why not?). As an RBNY fan with tix to the big game, other than my club going all the way, this is my desire for the raucus gameday experience. 4. NY and NE have their battle of the artificial turf NFL Stdiums, so there is no surface advantage here. Close enough for away fans to travel. I have been an advocate for a six team playoff format, and I still believe the home and home total goals thang suffers from traditionally boring first games, but this year looks very nice all around.
Easily the worst case scenario for the league. Two attendance dogs in an absolutely dreadful playoff matchup. Set in stone New England vs New York Houston vs Dallas If Chicago wins DC vs. Chicago Chivas vs. Kansas City LA/Chicago draw DC vs. Kansas City Chivas vs. Chicago If Los Angeles wins DC vs. Kansas City Chivas vs. Los Angeles
This is probably the most important regular season game in MLS history. I can't remember the last time so much was on the line going into the last weekend of the season, let alone the last game. This game has the two biggest stars (maybe 3 including Landon) in the league fighting over the final playoff spot, with both teams in the midst of somewhat miraculous season turnarounds (Chicago's is obviously less miraculous). If LA wins it will set up a wild first round of the playoffs with regional rivals going at it in 3/4 series. Lets just hope the game lives up to its potential.
... The "Tony Meola has now sung" update ... Code: [b][U] GP W L D PTS PPG WIN%[/U] 1 DCU 30 16 7 7 55 1.83 0.65 2 CDC 30 15 7 8 53 1.77 0.63 3 HOU 30 15 8 7 52 1.73 0.62 4 NER 30 14 8 8 50 1.67 0.60 5 FCD 30 13 12 5 44 1.47 0.52 6 NYR 30 12 11 7 43 1.43 0.52 7 CHI 30 10 10 10 40 1.33 0.50 8 KCW 30 11 12 7 40 1.33 0.48 -----------------------------------------[COLOR="SlateGray"] 9 CMB 30 9 11 10 37 1.23 0.47 10 COL 30 9 13 8 35 1.17 0.43 11 LAG 30 9 14 7 34 1.13 0.42 12 RSL 30 6 15 9 27 0.90 0.35 13 TFC 30 6 17 7 25 0.83 0.32[/b][/COLOR]
Re: ... The "Tony Meola has now sung" update ... So... DCU v. CHI CDC v. KC HOU v. FCD NE v. NYRB Right?
How is Chivas/Wizards a dreadful playoff matchup? EJ and Sealy vs Razov and Galindo? Preki against the Wizards? The two teams in the league absolutely dedicated to attack first soccer?
I think it has something to do with a horrible atmosphere because only 2,000 fans will be in the stands for each leg because nobody cares about either team. yeah something like that.
I'm always amazed at folks that can't just watch the game on the field. While good atmospher can lift a bad game, or make a good game great, bad atmosphere doesn't ruin a good game.
Your right it's just depressing as a MLS fan when a game is supposed to mean alot and it obviously doesn't mean anything at all when no one wants to be there to watch it. It's not only KC and Chivas. Probably every team except DC, Chicago, and Houston will have horrible home attendance in the playoffs.
Says the Wizards fan. We won't name names (), but I, quite frankly, find games at some venues almost inherently unwatchable.