BBC for Kids - Why 9/11 Happened

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by MasterShake29, Sep 11, 2007.

  1. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's short, so I'll quote the whole thing.

    Does anyone object to that? I don't. It's not necessarily the whole picture, but I don't think it's wrong.
     
  2. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    The BBC is a well-known libuuuraaal organization - that's why they never mentioned Iraq in this report. Everyone in Dick Cheney's office knows Iraq was involved with September 11th. Remember Mohammed Atta had a permanent suite of rooms in Prague where he had a regular date-night with Iraqi intelligence.
     
  3. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    I don't agree with the tone since it is targeted at kids but I don't disagree with the substance.

    If a kid where hearing that, the slant almost makes it sound like the attacks were justified.

    I think you could present a story to say that we have troops there. That our customs -- such as allowing women to serve -- are contrary to the way many Saudis live and that one radical group used those differences to attempt to justify attacks on innocent people.
     
  4. JBigjake

    JBigjake Member+

    Nov 16, 2003
  5. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  6. JBigjake

    JBigjake Member+

    Nov 16, 2003
    Revisionist Posting

    I rewrote the post after I found the Guides Index!
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/guides/default.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_1610000/newsid_1613000/1613043.stm
    "Some people were unhappy about this and it led to lots of problems in Northern Ireland."
    Hmm.
    Only religion covered?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4180000/newsid_4188200/4188287.stm
    "Islam is the second largest religion in Britain ... More than 1.6 million Muslims live in Britain."
    This must be news to the various Christian denominations.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,821568,00.html
    "there are between 17 million and 27 million Anglicans in Britain"
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,714699,00.html
    "There are about 6 million people in the UK Catholic community"
     
  7. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    so you believe 9/11 was carried out because al-qaeda were incensed about women serving in the army?
     
  8. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Revisionist Posting

    Christians are regarded as one religion here. Nobody in England gives a shit if you are catholic or protestant.
     
  9. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Re: Revisionist Posting

    None of this has anything to do with the thread topic and is nothing but a threadjack.

    If you want to discuss BBC screw-ups, biases, mistakes and misrepresentations, then, fair enough, start your own thread.

    This is about whether or not the explanation of the reasons for September 11th offered by the BBC for kids is valid.
     
  10. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I object to it. It portrays AQ as a legitimate organization with negotiable demands. There is no mention of bin Ladin's ludicrous call for a resumption of the Caliphate, for example.
     
  11. Nick_78

    Nick_78 New Member

    May 9, 2004
    VA
    Club:
    DC United
    I agree with Chris M. on this one, for the most part.

    While it is factually accurate, it isn't really complete, and as Chris pointed out, the tone of it makes it sound like a perfectly justified act.

    I understand they were probably trying to simplify things a bit, since it is for kids, but they didn't really do it the best way.
     
  12. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kids can handle the whole story. This BBC thing is patronizing, not to mention incredibly incomplete.
     
  13. daisrael

    daisrael Red Card

    Sep 20, 2006
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Half a truth is still a lie.

    The only face to put on AQ is one of a cold blooded mass murderer who kills men, women and children based on a medevil mindset.
     
  14. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Revisionist Posting

    Except for the anti-Catholic royal family, which is permitted to retain their place in the line of succession unless they marry a Roman Catholic.
     
  15. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do agree that it doesn't get into Al Queda being a bunch of mass murdering thugs as much as it should.
     
  16. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Revisionist Posting

    the first time someone likely to be king/queen wants to marry a catholic, that "law" has the life expectancy of a fart in a hurricane - until then they'll spend saturdays burning catholics at the stake as usual.
     
  17. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Seriously...

    They are widely thought to have been behind the attacks? Has it not been established without a doubt that al-Qaeda was responsible for the attacks?

    I wonder if people might find fault with the following study guide:

    "The way the Jewish community controlled much of Germany's economy made some people very angry, including a group called the Nazis - who are widely thought to have been behind the holocaust."
     
  18. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Revisionist Posting

    Rangers or Celtic?
     
  19. PhillyQuakesFan

    PhillyQuakesFan New Member

    Jun 25, 2007
    Delaware County, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well.... (edit: there's a link there, click on it)

    I object to its referring to Al-Qaeda as "people"
     
  20. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago

    So you believe its fair to extract one small example from my point to make it appear that this is the sole cause?

    :rolleyes:

    If it helps you understand my point, just remove the example. If you DON'T think they are motivated by our presence in the middle east than you are a fool.
     
  21. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    BINGO

    As if the absence of US troops in Saudia Arabia would have prevented Al Qaeda from targeting the US. If not that reason, they would have attacked because the US are Israel's biggest ally. Is there any acceptable reason for flying a jetliner into an office building?
     
  22. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Revisionist Posting

    I did say England, but taking it broader, they are still just regarded as christians, which was the whole point.
     
  23. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    No. I just couldn't see any relevance for that point. It was standing on the diving board overlooking that big "they attacked us because they hate us for our freedoms" swimming pool.
     
  24. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Revisionist Posting

    They sure as shit do in the United Kingdom, however.
     
  25. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    did it say it was acceptable?

    Imagine a 6 year old kid asking the question, "why did they do it?", "why do they hate us?" and needing to give an answer. The kid already knows it's a horrible thing to do, killing all those people. It doesn't need an extra moral judgement.
     

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