Tape of Al Gore Riding Luxury, Fuel-Guzzling Private Jet to Air This Weekend

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  1. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
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    You people who want to worship this guy, and who think he's serious and not just in it for money and fame are absolutely out of your minds.

    The guy is a pompous fraud.

    http://drudgereport.com/gore.htm
     
  2. CUS

    CUS New Member

    Apr 20, 2000
    What was the line by Glenn Reynolds? Something like:

    "I'll start to worry about Global Warming when the people telling me to worry about Global Warming actually do something about Global Warming."

    I probably mangled the quote, but I think it's close.
     
  3. Lulu 69

    Lulu 69 New Member

    May 7, 2007
    you assholes tried this shit already and got cum on your face.

    you claimed that when he wrote the earth in balance he was a hypocrite because they had to kill thousands of trees for the paper to write his book. Well he used recycled paper you dumb crackers, ok it was found that they didn't really use recycled paper but the message was important enough that it's ok.

    you claimed he had a huge mcmansion but the truth is that he had several aides working there. Ok fine, it was proved that people really didn't work there all that often but keep in mind that Al Gore gained weight so he needs a bigger home.

    You claimed that live earth hurt the evironment more than the average person does in a year but the reality is that GEORGE BUSH, IRAQ, TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH, IRAQ, KARL ROVE, RUMSFELD, IRAQ. In your face.

    Now you assholes talking about Gore's private jet? ******** you, the private jet is run by recycled oil from Hugo Chavez. So STFU you neocons make me so mad. :mad:
     
  4. Smiley321

    Smiley321 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Concord, Ca
    Why did you leave Cheney off of the list? Soft spot for him, because of his daughter maybe?
     
  5. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
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    Nice to see Segroves is back.
     
  6. Karl K

    Karl K Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    Suburban Chicago
    al Gore isn't a pompous fraud.

    LULU, however IS a pompous fraud.
     
  7. The Gribbler

    The Gribbler Member

    Jul 14, 1999
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    Crazy I know, but maybe, just maybe there's some sort of security risk with Gore flying commercial. After all he did hold some really important office in the 90's, but for the life of me I can't think of what it was...
     
  8. Lulu 69

    Lulu 69 New Member

    May 7, 2007
    Exactly, I knew there was a good reason for Gore to be a hypocrite. Al Gore doesn't have to practice what he preaches, he is Al Gore. Al Gore has very valid and legit reasons to crap on the environment.....do you?
     
  9. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
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    That's the pass they al give themselves. If not VP, then you're a big hollywood star, or a famous rock singer or a really rich guy who needs o keep his children safe or blah, blah, blah.

    It's all garbage. Either you live the life or you don't.

    You know, that's really my problem with all of this; there's no question that all of us need to try and not trash the environment. Clean air, clean water all of that, is a noble thing.

    But these people, like Al Gore and like John Travolta who flies himself around the globe in his personal 727 while preaching to others about conservation, and all the left-wing moonbats, aren't really preaching "conservation and changing our lifestyle"

    No, the point of their screeds is that WE HATE GEORGE BUSH.

    Go over to the PoliGov sewer and look at all the "Global Warming" fanaticswho ant to shriek and stomp and wail about how the planet is going to hell.

    Are they going vegan? Driving a Prius? Only flushing once a day? Recycling every item they dispose of? Riding a bike to work? Installing flourescent light bulbs? Anything? Anything at all?

    Shit no, they're not really doing anything. Global warming to them s just another reason to hate someone else, to point out how evil corporations are and to pat themselves on the back for being so enlightened.

    So yeah, Gore lives in a 50,000 square foot mansion and owns some lead mines and flies around in private jets, but he buys bogus carbon offsets (from himself) and it's OK. Good old Al.

    It's about walking the walk. These people want to force us to live in caves while they live in palaces, because they know what's best.

    Just absurd.
     
  10. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    FWIW, I actually agree with many of these criticisms. The protection of the environment is among the greatest concerns I have, and it alarms me how many so-called environmentalists want other people to make all of the sacrifices.

    My wife and I are vegetarians who eat a largely (although no longer exclusively) vegan diet. We live in a high rise (MUCH better than even the most energy efficient single-unit homes). I walk to work, and she takes the train most days; when we move downtown, we'll both take the train/El. We recycle, although Chicago's recycling program is still in the stone age (it's improving). We have one car--a Honda Civic--and it's reasonably fuel effecient.

    None of these things feel like sacrifices.

    Interesting fact I read about a year ago: if New York City was a state, it would rank 17th in population but 51st in energy consumption.
     
  11. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
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    I applaud your dedication. You have obviously earned the riht to say your piece.

    I recall back years ago when people became environmentally aware, it was a person-to-person thing. We were all supposed to do our share and the movement was aimed at showing people that it was possible to live a pretty normal life without garbaging up the planet.

    It was really pretty noble. And it certainly wasn't at all political. Unlike today where the whole thing is intended to be a political weapon, not a movement to clean air.

    Now it's all about bashing Bush over Kyoto, which is the single most egregious grossly distorted lie the left tosses around, and brother that's saying something.

    Kyoto is the point, Bush is the villain, blah, blah, blah. Same old tale.
     
  12. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    Gore's plane doesn't bother me too much. After all, if he manages to convince enough people to change their lifestyles to a reasonable degree, then the pollution released by the plane will have been "paid off" by future conservation elsewhere. The energy waste as his own home, however, isn't the same; that's merely wasteful, with no greater benefit in the long run. I do understand that he responded to criticisms by installing solar panels, etc. Travolta has no excuse for his planes, but Travolta is stone-cold crazy anyway.

    Some of the criticisms directed at Bush are legitimate. At the end of his term, Clinton used executive orders to increase the energy efficiency of several household appliances (e.g., air conditioners), and the costs to manufacturers would have been negligible. Bush revoked all of those standards. And nobody gets the sense that he's pushing for greater fuel efficiency in cars the way that, for example, Schwartenegger is.

    One thing that we need to overcome is the sense that a person cannot live comfortably in a denser setting. Then again, when we pass through the suburbs, I don't think to myself, "Gee, it would be nice to have a great, big lawn like that." I think, "Christ, I'm glad I don't have to mow one of those god damn things every weekend."
     
  13. The Gribbler

    The Gribbler Member

    Jul 14, 1999
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    Who said I crap on the environment?

    As for Al Gore or whatever celebrities, I don't stalk their every move or steal documents from their power companies to make sure they've got the A/C set at 78 instead of 68. I'm simply pointing to the fact that its only fair that the former Vice President of the US has a private jet for security reasons.
     
  14. CUS

    CUS New Member

    Apr 20, 2000
    Like Bush killed Kyoto?
    I pay a guy that does that for me.
     
  15. FeverNova1

    FeverNova1 New Member

    Sep 17, 2004
    Plano
    He must be illegal since Americans won't do that work.
     
  16. CUS

    CUS New Member

    Apr 20, 2000
    Carmen was definitely born here. I don't know the details of the guys that actually do the work.
     
  17. FeverNova1

    FeverNova1 New Member

    Sep 17, 2004
    Plano
    You do know that Bush lives greener than Algore and Clinton.

    BTW. Mr Urbanite, how's the school system in downtown Chicago?

    I kinda like my suburban town.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plano,_Texas

    In 2005, Plano was the best place to live in the Western United States by CNN Money magazine. In 2006, Plano was selected as the 11th best place to live in the United States by CNN Money magazine.[1] In addition to its many industries and good-quality living, Plano has excellent schools that consistently score in the top few percent of the nation.
     
  18. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

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    One OTHER thing " we need to overcome" is the baldfaced lie that Bush came into office, repealed every environmental standard he could lay his hands on and the country's air and water has been going to hell ever since.

    In fact, of course, even a cursory examination of the facts makes clear that the reverse is true. Of the five major categories of air pollutants that the EPA measres, every single one of them has gone down every single year George Bush has been in office.

    What the administration DID do is replace the old methodology with some different ones. The CLinto approach was controversial, and Bush changed it back to the way it was. What the left does, of course, is scream that Bush repealed environmental standards, and neglects to mention that what he really did was REPLACE the standards with a different set.

    The left simply lies and lies and journalists simply repeat it. Truth is of no interest to these people.
     
  19. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    If the secret service doesn't deem it necessary for former vice presidents to receive protection then the private jet for security purposes is a non starter.
     
  20. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    Pretty good, actually. Like any major city, there are better districts and worse districts. The demographics of downtown are changing very rapidly, and the schools are changing with them. I'm too busy to hunt down the data, but the test scores for the neighborhood schools near our new condo shot up something like 40% in the past few years.

    (Yes, I know that test scores are highly imperfect measures of school quality.)

    The problem is that the bad schools are, eh, really, really bad. But the best schools in the suburbs aren't better than the best in the city.
     
  21. The Gribbler

    The Gribbler Member

    Jul 14, 1999
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    Please. Congrats on your nice school system, but spare me the lilly-white homogeneous, mc-mansion, hummer-driving, sprawl.

    Not necessarily.
     
  22. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
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    People who live in Cedar Hill should not throw stones. At least Plano is part of the DART system.

    Who wants to kill Algore?
     
  23. Lulu 69

    Lulu 69 New Member

    May 7, 2007
    oh no, I meant the republicans here as the "you". I agree with everything you say. I agree with BojenDyk too, us dykes have to stick together. If people hear his message and do what he says and not what he does then that is all that matters. He NEEDS a bigger house because he is fat. He should be able to waste a lot of oil in private jets because the Republicans are always trying to assassinate him. Yes Al Gore is horrible for the environment and he does absolutely none of the things he preaches but he has very legit reasons for making the earth a much worse place to live in....and the republicans don't have any excuses.
     
  24. FeverNova1

    FeverNova1 New Member

    Sep 17, 2004
    Plano
    You mean these are bad things???
     
  25. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
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    But it's the "lily-white homogenous" people of the suburbs that are prejudiced.
     

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