The Champions League pots.......

Discussion in 'UEFA and Europe' started by Quaresma, Aug 29, 2007.

  1. Quaresma

    Quaresma New Member

    Aug 1, 2003
    Steeltown
    What are the 4 groupings to determine the CL groups look like?

    If anyone knows and posts the pots it would be much appreciated:)
     
  2. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Sevilla defeat AEK this is what the pots will look like:

    Code:
    Pot 1                          coef.     Pot 2                          coef.
    ------------------------ --- -------     ------------------------ --- -------
    AC Milan (TH)            Ita 133.808     Valencia ***             Esp  99.374
    FC Barcelona             Esp 119.374     Olympique Lyon           Fra  95.706
    Liverpool ***            Eng 112.618     FC Porto                 Por  89.107
    Internazionale           Ita 107.808     Sevilla ***              Esp  87.374
    Arsenal ***              Eng 104.618     PSV Eindhoven            Ned  81.995
    Real Madrid              Esp 104.374     AS Roma                  Ita  78.808
    Chelsea                  Eng  99.618     Benfica ***              Por  67.107
    Manchester United        Eng  99.618     Werder Bremen ***        Ger  63.640
    
    Pot 3                          coef.     Pot 4                          coef.
    ------------------------ --- -------     ------------------------ --- -------
    Celtic ***               Sco  62.064     Glasgow Rangers **       Sco  47.064
    Schalke 04               Ger  60.640     Shakhtar Donetsk **      Ukr  44.726
    VfB Stuttgart            Ger  58.640     Besiktas **              Tur  43.791
    Steaua Bucuresti **      Rom  55.255     Olympiakos Piraeus       Gre  42.415
    CSKA Moscow              Rus  53.920     Dinamo Kiev ***          Ukr  38.726
    Sporting CP Lisbon       Por  52.107     Fenerbahçe ***           Tur  36.791
    Lazio Roma ***           Ita  51.808     Slavia Praha **          Cze  32.851
    Olympique Marseille      Fra  51.706     Rosenborg BK **          Nor  31.509
    http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seedcl2007.html

    I'm not sure if the draw will go ahead as scheduled tomorrow since the Sevilla/AEK match won't be played until Monday. Anybody know what UEFA will do?
     
  3. benficafan3

    benficafan3 Member+

    Nov 16, 2005
    They will go ahead with the draw, as if Sevilla won the tie.
     
  4. 9_kezman

    9_kezman New Member

    Dec 20, 2006
    İnter
    Benfica
    Stuttgart
    Fenerbahçe

    i wanna these teams in our group as a Fenerbahçe fan...
     
  5. Fry36

    Fry36 New Member

    Apr 7, 2007
    New Jersey
    Replace Stuttgart with Steaua and Benfica with PSV and I'm with ya.
     
  6. Viola Star

    Viola Star Member

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    May 9, 2006
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    It's a shame Spartak Moscow have been knocked out. They are better than some of the teams in the draw.
     
  7. Viola Star

    Viola Star Member

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    May 9, 2006
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Milan
    Schalke
    Sevilla
    Shakhtar

    Group of death?
     
  8. CDSANTACLARA

    CDSANTACLARA New Member

    Jun 26, 2007
    Fall River, MA
    Slavia who would of tought
     
  9. SchalkeSupporter

    SchalkeSupporter New Member

    Jul 29, 2003
    Germany
    As Schalke Supporter I would choose:

    ManU
    PSV (2 hours drive)
    Rangers


    Awesome group for us. Very hard, but not impossible to get the 2nd place. Sevilla would be also nice...good relations to the club since UEFA Cup 05/06 semifinal!
     
  10. essie

    essie Member

    May 4, 2007
    Mission Viejo
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    For Chelsea i think the hardest would be Valencia, Shalke, and Shaktar with the easiest being, Roma, Marseille, and Rosenborg
     
  11. Fry36

    Fry36 New Member

    Apr 7, 2007
    New Jersey
    Speaking of Schalke I think I'd rather see a group like:

    Arsenal
    PSV
    Schalke
    Fenerbahce

    I've always liked Schalke - Fener games. Not because of the score, but because they're always entertaining.

    And whoever picks Valencia off the 2nd pot and Stuttgart off the 3rd is one unlucky sob in my opinion. I'd think THAT would be the group of death for any team in the 4th pot.
     
  12. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    Real Madrid
    Lyon
    Steaua
    Dinamo Kiev

    Same group as last year ;)
     
  13. besiktasfan

    besiktasfan Member

    Aug 22, 2007
    Turkey
    Club:
    Besiktas JK
    Nat'l Team:
    Turkey
    Inter
    PSV
    Marseille

    this is my wish as a besiktasfan.
     
  14. Offlimp

    Offlimp New Member

    Aug 10, 2007
    how can inter be in the 1st pot?
    where do they have the points from? I dont remember them doing anything in europe. :confused:
     
  15. MechCAK

    MechCAK New Member

    Aug 18, 2007
    Barcelona
    Lyon
    Cska
    Fenerbahce

    Arsenal
    Schalke
    Benfica
    Besiktas
     
  16. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    2003 - SF in CL
    2004 - QF in UC
    2005 - QF in CL
    2006 - QF in CL
    2007 - Made it out of the group stage in CL
     
  17. Viola Star

    Viola Star Member

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    May 9, 2006
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I think it's wrong that the fourth best English club are in the first pot while the German champions are in the third.
     
  18. ApproachWithCaution

    Dec 16, 2006
    South Wales, UK.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Wales
    I see your point. I think the champions of the 8 best leagues in Europe (England, Spain, Italy, Germany, Portugal, France, Holland & Turkey), should all be in pot 1. That would be a just reward for winning your domestic league and it would add more credence to the competition. It is called the Champions league after all.

    I know people will say that the winners of the competition aren't always champions of their domestic league. Liverpool and AC Milan being recent and prime examples of this. But to be honest, that's tough. I'd still put them in pot 2, whether they're the reigning champs or not.
     
  19. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    you rate turkey's league as 8th best?

    and yet the two scottish clubs have a higher co-efficient than either turkish club. and in celtic's case by quite a considerable distance.

    surely we would deserve to be placed above them on that point alone? and please dont mention the lack of domestic competition as our drawback. i'm well aware that it is but doesn't that also ring true to a certain extent in france, portugal and holland?
     
  20. okoyel

    okoyel New Member

    Nov 7, 2005
    Just because the best Scottish teams have better luck in Europe than Turkish teams don't necessarily mean that your league is better than ours.
     
  21. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    celtic have the 2nd best home record in champions league history.

    i fail to see where luck comes into this.

    would you care to elaborate?
     
  22. okoyel

    okoyel New Member

    Nov 7, 2005
    Celtic and Fenerbahce are very similar in my opinion, Fener have 25M fans and I am sure that Celtic have the same amount, Both teams are probably just as rich. It's all about luck, we have never been able to bring in world class players due to our reputation so then we can't play well in the Champions League. On the other hand Celtic keep doing well in Europe.

    How well we do in Europe should now really have a say in how good our league is, our average attendance in our league is almost the same (Bearing in mind that we dont have Goztepe, Karsiyaka, Eskisehir, Adana, Samsun in the top league of Turkey). A Turkish company have to pay €180M a year just to have the rights to broadcast our league games. Personally I think the Turkish League is better than the Scottish league but only slightly
     
  23. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    If anything, Russian league must count above the Turkish league.
     
  24. Y2Kyle

    Y2Kyle New Member

    Sep 2, 2007
    The answer is : Wikipedia :D
     

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