Interesting Statistic

Discussion in 'Toronto FC' started by ErnieE, Sep 1, 2007.

  1. ErnieE

    ErnieE Member

    Mar 6, 2007
    Oakville Ontario
    Only one game in the English Championship League had a higher attendance today than TFC had in it's last game in Toronto. Our fans seem to think our game is worth supporting more than English fans do theirs.

    No we can't compete with the Premier League in quality or support but we're doing well for now.
     
  2. TFC07

    TFC07 Member

    May 19, 2007
    Brampton, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Re: Interestinf Statistic

    MLS > English Championship League :D:D
     
  3. rocker

    rocker New Member

    Dec 15, 2006
    and two teams in MLS have higher attendances than we do (DC and LA)... so three teams in MLS support soccer better than most CCC teams :)
     
  4. vita666420

    vita666420 New Member

    Jun 3, 2007
    Scarborough
    what was the attendence for the TFC game? Theres no way it was a full house, even if they sold all the tickets.
     
  5. firice4837

    firice4837 New Member

    May 20, 2007
    Im assuming that Man U was the only club out of the big 4-5 clubs that had a home game today. Because if you think about it, the stadiums of most of the english clubs are not even close to old trafford or chelseas stadium (which I cant seem to remember for some reason)
     
  6. hodgkiss

    hodgkiss New Member

    May 21, 2006
    Toronto
    i think they've sold out every single match! over 20k plus! and most of the time i would believe taht most if not all of them are sold. there's maybe one seat every two or three rows that doesn't seat someone.
     
  7. TheChoker

    TheChoker Member

    May 6, 2007
    Toronto
    This statistic would only be interesting if you had the attendance as a percentage of local population...

    i.e. Ipwich has a population of 118K and had 19K at their last home game. That's damn impressive and no MLS team is near that!
     
  8. TFC07

    TFC07 Member

    May 19, 2007
    Brampton, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Before L.A. game, they only had 3 games over 20,000+ seats sold.

    If it weren’t for L.A. game, then they would be 3rd in the league in attendance.
     
  9. Taoism

    Taoism Member

    Apr 13, 2007
    Winnipeg, MB, Canada
    He said Championship, not Premiership. The Championship is step two on the football pyramid in England.

    Cheers!
     
  10. vita666420

    vita666420 New Member

    Jun 3, 2007
    Scarborough
    thats what I was thinking too. Our support compared to Englands is pathetic compared to maybe even up to the conference. Think about how many clubs are in England 100+ pro clubs. A lot of people support their local team regardless of their division. The whole of Canada and America only has 3 clubs with a higher aver. attendence than thier second division which alone includes 24 teams.
     
  11. Blizzard

    Blizzard Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Any comparisons have to be within the context of soccer being their #1 spectator sport and soccer being our #5 (that's an optimistic guess) spectator sport.

    Soccer is the religion of the vast majority of English sports fans just as hockey is to us.

    That said, Torontonians have done great this year and Canadians did great during the U-20's. Definitely NOT pathetic!

    B
     
  12. ErnieE

    ErnieE Member

    Mar 6, 2007
    Oakville Ontario
    Announced as 20,190 I believe. If you look at attendance another way, that is percentage of seats sold, Toronto comes out as number one in the M.L.S. with over 100% of ground capacity sold. (Extra seats added etc,)

    Of course if a club builds, or occupies, a big stadium and it is only rarely filled then comparisons become meaningless. So if we stick with total attendance then we are doing fine......but hope to increase if the stadium is expanded later.
     
  13. vita666420

    vita666420 New Member

    Jun 3, 2007
    Scarborough
    i didn't mean it like that, it seemed like the original poster was saying that we had somehow beat out the championship............ when in reality you have to consider that there are probably 120 pro clubs in England and 50 million people.
     
  14. Blizzard

    Blizzard Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Agreed and understood. It's just such a strong word that I felt it needed a bit of a counter.

    I think we all know that we can't possibly compare ourselves to England in respect to support of our sport but at the same time, we've had some really nice growth and I just don't want that to be overshadowed by the inequity of the comparison.
     
  15. jadger

    jadger Member

    Apr 12, 2006
    Kanada
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    MLSE and TFC may count number of seats sold, but that doesnt mean the actual attendance, I am seated at the midfield (east side) and last game there was only 5 guys in my whole row. So, this of course misleading. Ya ya, I know, MLSE misleading people, who'd have thunk it?
     
  16. ErnieE

    ErnieE Member

    Mar 6, 2007
    Oakville Ontario
    One has to remember that most of the British and European clubs have been in existence for well over a hundred years. They have generations of supporters to call on. Yet in all but top clubs MLS draw more fans. Crowds at our reserve games probably exceed the Scottish second and third divisions and many other clubs. So the point that I am making is that for a first year team we have done fantastically well in support. It is not a matter of lower prices either. We pay as much or more to see a game as they do in Europe. (I'm not talking about top price seats for Juventus, Bayern or Chelsea etc.)
     
  17. .:Rabid

    .:Rabid New Member

    Apr 26, 2007
    They collect attendance stats when they scan your ticket in @ the gate.

    The numbers are real and aren't tickets sold.

    Every ticket is sold every game, for the rest of the season, the fluctuating number you see from 20,000 to 20,500 is the people who show up, whatever the case 20,000+ have always showed up (except Houston game, 1-0 for us...19,800+) and there is always 100-300 person difference.
     
  18. lerxst

    lerxst Member

    May 23, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I don't think you really understand how ticket sales tend to work. Of course there will be empty seats; that's the nature of a pro sport in general. Try watching a Man U or Liverpool game sometime and you'll see rows of empty seats in certain sections. Don't forget that scalpers have their fair share of tickets as well and they don't always tend to sell all of them. The crowds are fine at BMO and exactly how they should be. Nobody is misleading anyone.
     
  19. Macksam

    Macksam Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Brampton, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Stamford Bridge. Well, there are quite a few Premiership teams with big stadiums. Most notably are Man City, Arsenal, Man United, Newcastle, Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham, and Aston Villa.
     
  20. jadger

    jadger Member

    Apr 12, 2006
    Kanada
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    ya, and it's rather small, only 40 000 seats I believe for Chel$ki's stadium, but maybe that's why they jack up their ticket prices compared to ManUre, becasue we all know you arent paying for better football :p
     

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