The Bouna and Mehdi issue

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by degerron, Aug 31, 2007.

  1. degerron

    degerron New Member

    Feb 18, 2006
    Queens
    I have a question for Rapids fans, as you may or may not know both Bouna and Mehdi are practicing Muslims. The month of Ramadan is coming in about 2 weeks time and I expect that both Bouna and Mehdi will be fasting as Mehdi did last at RSL (I may be wrong but I believe Ballouchy scored his first goal during that time). Some may not know this but fasting starts before sunrise and ends around or at sundown/sunset. There is no food or drinking during the time so any player fasting will be tired even if the game is played after sunset. Every Muslim is obligated to fast for the month, but not everyone fast due various reasons such as medical condition, childhood, travelling, war, and some just choose not to fast b/c they don't want to.

    How do you think the Rapids will approach this issue, as they are still right in the thick of gaining a birth in the playoffs? Have they talked about how they will address this? What do think they should do?

    PS: Sorry if this has been brought up before in another thread.
     
  2. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We had a similar issue in previous years with Dedi not available to play on Yom Kippur. The Rapids respected his beliefs and worked around it. It's not quite the same since it will probably effect more games, but I expect the Rapids would react the same way to Bouna and Mehdi's beliefs.
     
  3. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
    Denver, CO
    We will forfeit every game in that time frame, because we all know what happened last time Snack was in net:D
     
  4. The Legend

    The Legend New Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Colorado, Where Lege
    from what I remember this came up last year, and Bouna did play a game while fasting
     
  5. BeTheRed

    BeTheRed Member

    May 16, 2006
    Last year the Rapids training staff worked with Bouna to develop a special diet and hydration routine that allowed him to respect his beliefs.
     
  6. Independiente

    Independiente Member

    Colorado Rapids
    United States
    Mar 15, 2005
    Littleton, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have a Muslim who fasts during Ramadan on the high school team I coach and he still plays. I think Bouna and Mehdi will continue to play. Mehdi has been subbed in the second half the last couple of games, maybe that trend will continue. I think Bouna should be fine since he doesn't run around as much. As for Mehdi, he will probably be feeling a bit weaker as a result of fasting, but might play more inspired because of it.
     
  7. GoRapids

    GoRapids Member

    Sep 1, 1999
    Boulder CO
    Cool to respect his beliefs.

    Wasn't Adan Brown a Christian Scientist or something like that - and his beliefs made him not accept medicine or surgery or something like that? And after a long while with an injured kneed - they (granted different ownership) told him that he had to choose between his career and his beliefs?

    Anyone remember specifically?
     
  8. teddy_montoya

    teddy_montoya RapidsThugLife

    Nov 9, 2006
    Supporters Terrace
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully the Rapids respect their beliefs and end up dealing with the situation that needs be, ie, crinking plenty of water after the time of fasting...[before]
     
  9. SccrDon

    SccrDon Member+

    Dec 4, 2001
    Colorado Springs
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Good question, but I don't think it'll be an issue.

    They can eat before sunrise and after sunset and drink water (maybe other stuff) at any time, so I'm sure that the Rapids staff can come up with a good plan again.

    Hakeem Olajuwon (sp?) was always able to play basketball during Ramadan, so I don't expect any problems here. He said that his commitment to his faith more than made up for not eating during the day.
     
  10. Brother Badgerjohn

    Oct 16, 2000
    Okie City
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's over a billion Muslims in the world, and soccer has been around their environs for over a century. I'm sure they've figured out a workable solution to this.
     
  11. costly

    costly New Member

    Aug 3, 2007
    Boulder
    [/QUOTE]
    Hakeem Olajuwon (sp?) was always able to play basketball during Ramadan, so I don't expect any problems here. He said that his commitment to his faith more than made up for not eating during the day.[/QUOTE]

    I like this... I actually have a good feeling about these two during this period, especially if they share similar opinions to Hakeem's...
     
  12. degerron

    degerron New Member

    Feb 18, 2006
    Queens
    Thanks for your responses.

    I hadn't heard Bouna had a special diet set up for him last season, but then again I hadn't heard of Bouna until the season opener. Both should be able to continue playing and I think RSL responded to Mehdi by subbing him out at some point or allowing him to come on as a sub.

    So I was wondering if the Rapids had a similar strategy setup in that they plan to burn a sub on Mehdi, if so who can fill his minutes on the field?
     
  13. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kyle Beckerman. Oh, wait

    Odds are FC will pull Kirovski back into the attacking mid position, its not a strong move but we don't have another strong player to play attacking mid. The otehr option is to go back to the old 2 d-mids/2 winger alingment. Either way, its going to be important to get an early lead if Ballouchy can't go a full 90.
     
  14. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    Don't be like Clavijo and forget Cancela.
     
  15. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who? Oh, is that what that lump on the bench is named?

    Fair point, I forgot about him.
     
  16. GoRapids

    GoRapids Member

    Sep 1, 1999
    Boulder CO
    So on FTP - Fernando says that Mehdi was subbed out because his we gased - and he was gased cuz of Ramadan.
     
  17. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That matches what the FSL fans said last year, that he usually got subbed out in games due to his fasting for Ramadan.
     
  18. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's FTP?

    Clavijo's subbed him out the majority of the games he's played here. Is Mehdi soft, always fasting, in poor shape, or is Clavijo just so enamored of Kirovski as a midfielder that he must put him there at least a little per game?
     
  19. GoRapids

    GoRapids Member

    Sep 1, 1999
    Boulder CO
    FTP=From the Pitch
     
  20. RedFive

    RedFive Member

    Jul 8, 2006
    Salt Lake City
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know about Adin Brown but those same circumstances led to Zizi Roberts dismissal. Whose ever heard of hollistic knee surgery anyways?! Zizi tried it twice.
     
  21. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That makes more sense than Fight The Power.
     
  22. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    Big difference - Ramadan occurs during pre-season for the NBA, not during the stretch run as in MLS.

    As I recall, Mehdi had one good game during Rahmadan last year, but looked lethargic quite a bit, and typically only played for about a half.
     
  23. askum33

    askum33 New Member

    Jun 2, 2004
    San Antonio, TX

    Some devout Muslims do not believe in consuming anything.
    No water all day - nothing.
    Only the Elderly, young and sick get to imbibe in anything.
    Both Mehdi and Bouna are considered healthy and would not be drinking anything.
     
  24. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you know this for sure?

    The argument you set up doesn't prove it.

    Some devout Muslims.... does not lead to Mehdi and Bouna will.
     
  25. smudgeyjoe

    smudgeyjoe Member

    Dec 15, 2001
    Westminster Colorado
    Here is a quote I found about Adin Brown:

    Blessed are the Meek
    American Adin Brown, who currently plays for Aalesund in the Norwegian Premier League, has had a career plagued by injury and often has trouble regaining full fitness due to his beliefs. As a Christian Scientist, he refuses many forms of treatment that would normally clear up innocuous knocks.

    You might enjoy this. I found this quote at
    http://www.goalkeepersaredifferent.com/keeper/faith.htm
    Believe it or not, that is really the address of the website.
     

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