Im surprised no one posted this (at least not that I could find). http://www.mediotiempo.com/noticia.php?id_noticia=43954 & http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/08/28/bc.soccer.latam.mexico.discipline/index.html Basicly some new conduct rules stemming from the Euro based players asking out of the Copa America this summer. What I found interesting was this gem of a response from Osorio. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/08/29/bc.soccer.latam.mexico.osorio/index.html Doesnt really sound like a guy interested in playing for his country anymore. Why is he complaining anyway, he gets bonuses for playing with the national team right? Even so, is representing his country in international competition not enough for him?
Notice how the ones that actually are getting mad are the people that left. I haven't heard nothing from rafa, nery, or guardado also not even from Salcido. Osorio me al pela, I guess winning a championship in the bundesliga has made him a super star.
If osorio really does not want to play for us anymore then he can leave but there should also be penalties for his che assistant's who created problems with players like salcido. We have to let everything come out before we judge, the same thing happened with Nery and Salcido. People choose to jugde them before all the facts were out. If that boludo is creating problems and the players are being told that they have to get used to that guy or face penalties than most of them would react like osorio did. Let's wait to get all the facts first.....
There needs to be a little more discipline in the national team. Though I do agree that some of these players based in Europe need time off, if they play non-stop they will eventually fall apart. They usually play in a regular league that is not split in two sessions and then they play their national cups and some play in CL. The Mexico base players usually only play in one tournament, the home one, and some play in Sudamericana and Libertadores. I am not saying give these players a pass, but the Copa Oro and Copa America were played back to back. With all the talent coming up the pipeline, we might not even need Osorio in the future.
on one hand, i agree with you. from everything i've heard of this guy, coupled with the fact that i'm not a big fan of the tactics currently used (i'm still not a big fan of the two defensive mids), really wish they'd replace egea with carrillo or quirarte or something to the like but on the other hand, the chivas players played back to back tournaments for a while it seems, the pachuca players have racked up tons of minutes playing in the sudamericana, superliga, concacaf cup, recopa and the liguillas,and i didn't hear morales, medina, correra, etc crying about it. or calero, chitivia, and mosqueda for that matter, while playing for colombia. osorio is still young, and he doesn't even play all the minutes for his club team, didn't play champions league last season as some of the teams played copa libertadores and sudamericana, champions cup, etc, and yet he still bitches. i'd like to hear more from him, because honestly, he is replaceable, especially with what he showed in the gold cup. israel definitely out shined him in copa america. gringo and esparza could also easily take his place. imo
I'm not defending Osorio and them, but this code of conduct is aimed at making mexican players in the MFL play for Mexico a huevo. No deberian dejar que un jugador que no quiere jugar por su pais lo haga. There's many other players willing to play for el Tricolor. Si no quieren ponerse la verde no deben obligarlos.
These guys need to take a break at some point. I was disapppointed with Rafa when he left the team before the 3rd place match. Nobody seems to talk about that but I'm bringing it up. I don't care if the game seems meaningless you stick it out with your country's team and plus, he didn't get to be out there when we had our celebration after the game. Anyway, if you're going to do this "new code of conduct for the NT" then do one for the fans and how they should behave. Very few times have I been as mad as that friendly when we're losing to Paraguay and people are doing the "ole" for Paraguay in Azteca. That PISSES ME OFF! So all the fans that are claiming Osorio, Salcido, and Pardo don't want to represent their country better not be the same hypocritical a*sholes who do the type of sh*t that the people in Azteca did that day. It's easy to cheer when you win 6-0 but you better have the BALLS to stick by your country when they're not doing so good as well.
http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=592175&s=mex&type=story well rafa is not playing with mexico either
Are we all forgetting that he is fighting for a starting spot for Barcelona???? That is why he left because it was pointless and who really cares about being 3d???? Rafa needs to stay at Barcelona to regain his momentum he had before, this would benefit both him and Mexico. Oh n ******** Osorio
It seems to me all these problems weren't happening under LaVolpe... Hugo Sanchez is losing control. He says he likes unrest from the players but I don't know...
You need to remember that Ronaldihno wasn't in Dunga's green graces for a while but he kind of realizes that he needs him.
What the federation should do is try to find a way of forcing the clubs to send more young players like esparza, pato araujo, jorge hernandez, and villaluz to europe instead of punishing players who want to rest.
Hugo is not the right coach for this project. He's getting what he wants by making the players turn away voluntarily so he can have a clean start , no explanations. Its like making a diamond. The miners do all the work, the jewelers get paid. Hugo is just picking diamonds out of the sky.
You people are a disgraced. Putting aside the fact that your opinion doesn't matter, this players have risked their own physical health for the nt. Osorio and Salcido never complain against the abusive calender imposed by the fmf when they were playing in Mexico. They always showed up when they were called, but now they are in Europe, where the competition for a spot is harder. Not to mention the lack of rests this players suffered. Seriously give it a rest. They played copa Oro, and Hugo knew they weren't going to be in Copa America from the begginign. Salcido and Rafa are the same, Salcido's health wasn't 100% and yet he played copa oro, and when he realized it was too much for him to play Copa America, he let Hugo know. Rafa, shouldnt' have started such an intense tournament right after he came back from an injury, and yet he risked it in Copa America. People, they are not machines, and even a machine needs rest or it'll eventually break down from over use.
Bullshit Nery Castillo played in both of them and he is in Europe and so did Guardado, if they could do it so can they. I understand Salcido a little more since he was not 100%. Marquez did it also, it just looks a little bad when you play Copa Oro over Copa America. Bullshit Hugo thought they were all playing before Copa Oro started the decision was made during Copa Oro
guardado has only been in europe for two months. he wanst in playing in europe when the copa oro and copa america were being held.
No s_ew you and your la volpista buddies. If the FMF doesn't take action on Orsorio and Pardo it might happen down the line to other of our players so we have to act fast.