Official Champions league draw Thread-30/08/07

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  1. BusbyBabes

    BusbyBabes New Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Up North
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    In switzerland at 5pm BST

    Who do you want united to get?

    These are the teams that qualified last night

    Lazio
    Rangers
    Liverpool

    United cannot get

    Liverpool
    Chelsea
    Arsenal(if they get through which is likely)

    or

    Barcelona
    Inter Milan
    Lyon
    Real Madrid
    PSV eindhoven
    AC Milan

    could get these though the games will be not finished until tonight although the Seville-AEK Athens game will be on Monday due to the death of Antonia Puerta so they will both be in the draw.

    http:www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_2692635,00.html


    Anderlecht v Fenerbahce, (agg 0-1) Leg 2, Q3, 19:30
    Arsenal v Sparta Prague, (agg 2-0) Leg 2, Q3, 20:05
    Besiktas v FC Zurich, (agg 1-1) Leg 2, Q3, 18:15
    Celtic v Spartak Moscow, (agg 1-1) Leg 2, Q3, 19:45
    Dinamo Zagreb v Werder Bremen, (agg 1-2) Leg 2, Q3, 19:30
    Dynamo Kiev v FK Sarajevo, (agg 1-0) Leg 2, Q3, 17:00
    FC Copenhagen v Benfica, (agg 1-2) Leg 2, Q3, 19:45
    IF Elfsborg v Valencia, (agg 0-3) Leg 2, Q3, 19:45
    Rosenborg v Tampere United, (agg 3-0) Leg 2, Q3, 19:45
    Shakhtar Donetsk v SV Red Bull Salzburg, (agg 0-1) Leg 2, Q3, 17:00
    Slavia Prague v Ajax, (agg 1-0) Leg 2, Q3, 19:30
    Steaua Bucuresti v BATE, (agg 2-2) Leg 2, Q3, 18:30

    suppose revenge on Celtic would be nice after that flukey win and maybe if Ajax get through that would be a good game.
     
  2. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Re: Official Champions league draw Thread-30/09/07

    what are the seedings?
     
  3. GrodZilla

    GrodZilla Member

    Oct 5, 2005
    Stockholm
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Re: Official Champions league draw Thread-30/09/07

    they are not made yet since the qualifying rounds are not done. I bet the seedings will be up by tomorrow morning
     
  4. BusbyBabes

    BusbyBabes New Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Up North
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Official Champions league draw Thread-30/09/07

    I forgot to mention stuttgart as champions of germany.
     
  5. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Re: Official Champions league draw Thread-30/09/07

    I'm a little confused about how they're going to work AEK Athens/Seville into the draw as I was under the impression that UEFA treated the UEFA Cup equally to the Champions League as far as co-efficents go and would imagine that Seville's is at least fairly high, if not very high. Would they not have a good chance of going into pot one?

    Compare that to AEK who don't exactly have a good record in Europe and I'd have thought they'd be in pot three or four.

    Anyone know how they're specifically going to work around that one?
     
  6. BusbyBabes

    BusbyBabes New Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Up North
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Official Champions league draw Thread-30/09/07

    This may shed some light

    UEFA will hold Thursday's draw for the group stage of the Champions League with one of the qualifying matches still to be played.

    Sevilla's second leg against AEK Athens was postponed following the sudden death of the Spanish club's 22-year-old midfielder Antonio Puerta at the weekend.

    So UEFA must decide how to accommodate both clubs in the draw despite the fact their coefficients mean that, under normal circumstances, the clubs would be in different seeding pots.

    Sevilla hold a 2-0 lead from the first leg and with a coefficient of 87.37 would be among the second seeds, while the Greek side's coefficient of 36.41 would place them in the bottom group of seeds.

    It is likely that UEFA will decide that in the unlikely circumstances that AEK overturn Sevilla's first-leg advantage they would assume the Spanish club's position among the second seeds.

    Sevilla, the UEFA Cup winners, are expected to confirm that they will play in the Super Cup match against Champions League winners AC Milan in Monaco on Friday night.

    UEFA general secretary David Taylor told uefa.com: "The draw will take place on Thursday at 1800CET - as scheduled.

    "There are additional complications this season related to the tragic and unforeseen circumstances that caused the postponement of the AEK Athens v Sevilla match.

    "This means that both clubs will be 'provisionally' entered in this season's competition."
     
  7. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Re: Official Champions league draw Thread-30/09/07

    It does. Thank you. :)
     
  8. JC7rox

    JC7rox Member+

    Manchester United FC, LAFC
    Jun 11, 2004
    West Coast, Cali!
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Re: Official Champions league draw Thread-30/09/07

    Dude, you guys are a whole month in advance. I know it is silly, but the thread name threw me off.

    It should be 30/08/07.
     
  9. GrodZilla

    GrodZilla Member

    Oct 5, 2005
    Stockholm
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    No matter what, here comes the seedings.

    2007/08 UEFA Champions League
    Group stage draw - 18.00CET, Thursday

    POT 1
    AC Milan (ITA, holders) A
    FC Barcelona (ESP) B
    Liverpool FC (ENG) C
    FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) A
    Arsenal FC (ENG) D
    Real Madrid CF (ESP) B
    Chelsea FC (ENG) D
    Manchester United FC (ENG) C

    POT 2
    Valencia CF (ESP) E
    Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) F
    FC Porto (POR)
    Sevilla FC (ESP) / AEK Athens FC (GRE) E/M
    PSV Eindhoven (NED)
    AS Roma (ITA) G
    SL Benfica (POR) H
    Werder Bremen (GER) I

    POT 3
    Celtic FC (SCO) J
    FC Schalke 04 (GER)
    VfB Stuttgart (GER) I
    FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)
    PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS)
    Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR) H
    S.S. Lazio (ITA) G
    Olympique de Marseille (FRA) F

    POT 4
    Rangers FC (SCO) J
    FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) K
    Beşiktaş JK (TUR) L
    Olympiacos CFP (GRE) M
    FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) K
    Fenerbahçe SK (TUR) L
    SK Slavia Praha (CZE)
    Rosenborg BK (NOR)
     
  10. BusbyBabes

    BusbyBabes New Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Up North
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Official Champions league draw Thread-30/09/07

    blame me I will change that:)
     
  11. BusbyBabes

    BusbyBabes New Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Up North
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I want Lyon, Sporting and Rosenborg if that list is correct.:)
     
  12. GrodZilla

    GrodZilla Member

    Oct 5, 2005
    Stockholm
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    It looks like there are some hard teams in POT4 this year.

    Preferred Group
    Manchester United
    Werder Bremen
    FC Steaua Bucureşti
    Rosenborg BK

    From POT2 I'd take either Werder Bremen or Benfica. Both have lost quality over the summer but we have faced Benfica enough times the last few years. Bremen without Klose are not as much of a threat.

    From POT3 Steaua gets my vote. They are improving but should not pose a problem for us. They showed last season that they are not yet good enough to trouble the big teams. Celtic and Sporting are two other teams that I wouldn't mid since I think it would be entertainig matches.

    POT4 is a frigging minefield. There are only two teams that I'd like to face and thats Prague and Rosenborg. Rosenborg wins it by a nose because I know more of them than abour Slavia. Rangers is a dark horse

    The "Rather Not" Group
    Manchester United
    Valencia CF
    CSKA Moscow
    FC Shakhtar Donetsk

    POT2is as always very hard. Many teams in there you do not want to face. Valencia stand out because I think they would suit us very badly. They are organized, work hard and are very lethal going forward. But Lyon, Sevilla, Porto, Roma, all very good teams.

    POT3 seems to be a group where noone really stands out, Most sides are good though. Historically we have had trouble playing against Italian opposition and Lazio could trouble us. Marseille is a good side but so are the two german sides but I really don't want to have to go to Moscow in the middle of winter to play a very gifted CSKA side.

    POT4 is as i said a friggin minefield. There are 2 away trips to Ukraine in there, as well as 2 trips to Turkey and I really don't want those. No matter what that will be a very very hard away trip. Shakhtar and Fenerbace stands out out, but the possible away trip to Ukraine in january tips the scale. Olympiakos have been around for a while and know what they are doing too.
     
  13. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    PSV Eindhoven, Steaua Bucharest and Slavia Prague would work for me. After what went on last season, probably best to avoid a group of Roma, Marseille and Rangers. :eek:
     
  14. sab456

    sab456 Member

    May 20, 2007
    Sevilla, Schalke, Fenerbache.. This would be tough and interesting
     
  15. BusbyBabes

    BusbyBabes New Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Up North
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The way they are playing a trip to Marseille would be nice...probaly get either Lazio or Roma.:cool:
     
  16. WinningEleven

    WinningEleven Member

    Jun 23, 2006
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    United
    Sevilla/AEK
    Marseille
    Rangers


    I hope we avoid Valencia.
     
  17. BusbyBabes

    BusbyBabes New Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Up North
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    does anyone think that it looks really competitive this year as there are not as many lameduck teams this year?

    I do hope that united get teams that actually want to attack rather than the likes of Lille because it suits us more to get that type of team.
     
  18. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Predictions:

    Milan Sevilla Sporting Besiktas
    Barca Bremen Steaua Rangers
    Liverpool Roma Marseille Fenerbahce
    Inter Benfica Celtic Rosenborg
    Arsenal PSV Schalke Shakhtar
    Real Lyon Stuttgart Slavia
    Chelsea Valencia Moskva Kyiv
    United Porto Lazio Olympiacos
     
  19. GrodZilla

    GrodZilla Member

    Oct 5, 2005
    Stockholm
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    If you get them all right I promise I'll buy you a snickers bar.... King Size
     
  20. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Swedish King Size or American King Size? (I'm trying to decide what to ask God for, getting these predictions correct or winning the $325MM MegaMillions on Friday.)
     
  21. BusbyBabes

    BusbyBabes New Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Up North
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    right my group predictions

    Milan Benfica Stuttgart Olympiacos
    Barca Roma Celtic Shakhtar
    Chelsea PSV Marseille Rangers
    Inter Valencia Sporting Fenerbache
    Arsenal Porto Steaua Rosenborg
    United Lyon Schalke Slavia
    Real Bremen Lazio kyiv
    Liverpool Seville/AEK Moskva Besiktas
     
  22. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What would you like if you get them all right?
     
  23. BusbyBabes

    BusbyBabes New Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Up North
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    hmmmm:pgiant bar of galaxy if you please...
     
  24. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure what that is, but Grod will set you up.
     
  25. jayro75

    jayro75 Member

    Sep 8, 2004
    Based on the group you placed United in I'm rooting for your predictions and my MegaMillions win..;)
     

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