After much debate and discussion. The new Chivas USA supporter group is here. Courtesy of a fan-friendly insider at the CUSA FO..... ...Los San Patricios are here!! For those of you who are unfamiliar with the history of the St. Patrick's Brigade, a band of 800 union soldiers of Irish, German, Scottish and European descent deserted to fight alongside the Mexcians during the Mexican-American War. These soldiers were disatisfied with the American army treatment of Mexican citizens, particulary priests and children. Fearing they would never be accpeted as true Americans, these men stood by their beliefs and religious convictions and fought for freedom and sovereignty. For more historical perpective try these links: Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick's_Battalion http://www.vivasancarlos.com/patrick.html So Join Now!! This formation of this group is long overdue!! To join email me, jhnsandate@yahoo.com EastLAChiva
PERSONALLY, I would "white" it up a bit to St. Patrick's Brigade. Giving a Spanish name doesn't really differentiate it much from the Legion, IMO. Though love the story behind it, its fitting
Don't worry, St. Patrick's Battalion or Los San Patricios, the group is here. Here's a pick from the bagpipe group that perfroms every year to honor the "white" soldiers in Churubusco, Mexcio. Mexicans and bagpipes gotta love that! Contact me to join, jhnsandate@yahoo.com
I was hoping this would be a new transfer thread...I agree with mobile...Needs more English in the name for wider appeal. Either way, that's a great name and theme for a new supporter's group. I'd gladly join it, as long as we don't go overboard with the green and cloves. Haha.
Pretty bad-ass. I'm all for it. But it's true - a more "Anglo-friendly" name would help differentiate it.
Very interesting but it seems a bit controversial. We would be naming ourselves after a group of soldiers who were hung for treason and sedition against the United States. This sounds more anti-american and a bit devisive than anything else. On the other end, the Mexican-American War is a dark stain in our nations history. A classic case of early American Imperialism that was illegal and criminal at best. Some would say that these guys were fighting for a peoples' freedom and value of faith over nationalism. As a German-American and a Catholic, I am intrigued. As you can tell I am on the fence with this idea.
i like the idea and at first i thought it was rather genius, but are we really aiming for such a segregated atmosphere at our games?
It has come to my attention that the name of the new group is not "white" enough. (to use some other poster's words) Actually, The new name is The San Patrick's Battalion NOT Los San Patricios I apologize for that. Also, it should be known that we are part of Legion 1908. Thank and be sure to contact me if you are intersted in joining. jhnsandate@yahoo.com
Ok, so here are my thoughts on this... While I'm certainly not trying to get on my political high-horse, and I would never argue that the Galaxy is any sort of racist, cruel institution, I do like the fact that there is a huge cultural meshing @ Chivas USA games, and want to help facilitate that. I want the immigrant communities (of which there are MANY in Los Angeles) and the football-loving whiteboys like myself to come together, and this sounds like a good way to do it. I've been to many Chivas games, tailgated in the parking lot, and while I've certainly never felt any bit of unwelcome-ness, there is the perception that a white fan at the games is either A.) a fan the opposing team or B.) just at the game because you got free tickets and is not really a Chivas USA fan. Most people give me a smile when they see me stand up and yell for the Goats, but they're certainly surprised to see how passionate I am for the Red & White. This supporters group will hopefully shed light on the fact that Chivas USA has fans from all walks of life - we're not just Chivas de Guad fans who are settling for an MLS team (I'm not even a fan of Chivas de Guad). Chivas USA is for everyone and hopefully the San Patrick's Battalion will help illustrate that. Alright, enough rambling. I think this is a cool idea and I'm excited to see it get going. Now, let's get a DP and sign Riquelme.
Jajajaja. Love it! Kudos to y'all. St. Patrick's Batallion is not that well know in the US (for some obvious reasons), but in Mexico, this group of men are held in high regard and that's why the Irish have a special place en el corazón mexicano. Whenever a red-haired mexican kid appears, a mexican will always say "Well. I think the St. Patrick's Batallion passed through his town."
You know what will be a great idea, if St Patricks Batallion will go to Guadalajara and root next to La Legion 1908 in a chivas game. It will be awsome and Mexicans will love the Batallion, you guys will be like gods for a day.
Would you guys be sitting next to La Legion or on the other side? I live in the Bay Area and it be great if next year my Chivas will be playing over here and you guys could make it up. This supporters club is the best idea because it will show the whole league how powereful Chivas USA is.
To the best of my knowledge, we WILL NOT be directly next to La Legion but closer to Section 127. This is all new and evolving everyday.
Section 127 would be a great choice for a supporters section. We would have perfect sightlines and also be in the shade on day games. With St. Pat becoming our patron saint I can gladly down a few pints of Guinness in the name of our group. With this selection I can think of a few Flogging Molly songs that we could incorporate into the Battalion. The chorus will be easy to follow and the words will be easy to modify. The two that I have in mind are "Whats Left of the Flag" and "Rebels of the Sacred Heart." I have a few questions as well, 1) Does this group require a membership in the Legion? 2) What colors will we actually adopt? With that said, I am volunteering for the St. Pats Battalion!
I like the historical connection. It's inspiring, moving and heroic. San Patrick's Battalion. I like the spanish/english fusion of the name. I think the banner should be rectangular with the vertical Chivas USA stripes and a gold Irish harp superimposed on it trimmed in green. The harp should have a victory ribbon with San Patrick's Battalion on it and year of establishment. It should also have a motto such as "Hasta la Muerte" (Until Death), "Death before Dishonor", "All for One, One for All", "Go Forth, No Retreat", "Until the Final Goal",etc. The flag incorporates the Chivas USA colors, the gold is in the Chivas crest and the uniform numbers of the players and the green is representative of the Irish brigade and is also part of the Mexican national colors. I think that membership in the Legion should be up to the individual but as a separate but allied group we should have an agreement of cooperative affiliation in order to coordinate both groups activities in continuing to build support for CUSA and bridges between the Anglo and Hispanic fans. With that, I'm another volunteer for the San Patrick's Battalion. Let us hold the banner high and proud. Where do I sign up sir!
Just to answer a few questions of futgod: 1-We will not be requiring membership with Legion 1908. (Look at it this way, they are the army, we are the special forces) 2-The colors have not been onfirmed, but there will be RED and WHITE. Remember, this is a country of immigrants and CUSA is a team of immigrants. We need to be the 12th man on the pitch.