Zidane to L.A Galaxy Rumor Thread

Discussion in 'LA Galaxy' started by MARKONE, Apr 17, 2007.

  1. FlapJack

    FlapJack Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    You guys have it right. If a DP slot for LD in future years is acquirable at a reasonable price then that's a good long term move for the team. And rather than have that slot go to waste this year, if you can get Zidane to come in for the year and connect a pass or two in the quagmire that is the Galaxy midfield, only losing AEG's cash to do it, then I'm all for that. But a team firesale just to get Zizou to join the circus is bad for the Galaxy.
     
  2. FlapJack

    FlapJack Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    True, but at least I get to vote with my dollar on what I think of those decisions. Many people voted that it was a great idea that Beckham was coming. If the Galaxy bring in Zidane, but unload Albright, Sturgis, and Martino to do it, my vote may be very different next year depending on how things pan out.
     
  3. mj23drj

    mj23drj New Member

    Sep 27, 2003
    Harrisburg
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    There are loopholes in the DP. If the Galaxy got the 2nd DP, they could use it on ZZ this year , and Donovan next year. The thing is , no one said they have to pay ZZ equally for his years played. Say they pay him 20 mil for 2 years ( who knows what the number is, just throwing it out there as an example) what keeps them from paying him 19.7 mil this year, and .3 mil next year ?? Nothing that I've seen in the verbiage of the DP.
     
  4. WeR138

    WeR138 New Member

    Apr 15, 2007
    The Valley
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    Well, at times it was that bad. We did not win any games in the months of May or June (0-8-2), scoring a grand total of 4 goals in those two months. It is safe to say the season was lost in those two months when Landon was gone and Ned Grabavoy (along with Ngwenya) traded to Columbus for Wolyniec and Martino. Things improved about a month after Yallop showed up, but it is no secret we needed and still need midfield help. I am optimistic that the influx of DPs will improve the league's play and image abroad paving the way for others -- maybe younger others. Why not?
     
  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    Nope, against the rules. I suggested that DC solve the Gomez problem by offering him, say, $600K this year, with him as the DP, then $400K the next year, with an option at, say, $200K for year 3. But once a player is "designated," he stays designated throughout the contract.

    Which makes sense, obviously. If that were legal, a team like NYRB, with 2 DP slots, could have *6* DP players...just pay 2 guys each of the 3 years the big money, and pay them $100K the other 2 seasons.
     
  6. BigT#20

    BigT#20 New Member

    Jul 8, 2004
    Aiken, SC
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    is this your thoughts or do you have a source/link ?
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    It's in a thread on the DC forum about re-signing Gomez.
     
  8. Fung

    Fung New Member

    Jan 11, 2007
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    Could be hard getting Zidane to MLS because of his families ties to Spain too. His kids Luca Zinedine Zidane and Enzo Alan Zidane both plays for the Real Madrid Youth teams.

    (Heres a vid of Enzo Zidane, 12 years old http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJMrcEKqAe8)
     
  9. The Cold Sea

    The Cold Sea Señor Mejor

    Feb 17, 2005
    The District
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    Exactly. I hope it works out that way.
     
  10. FuzzyForeigner

    Oct 29, 2003
    WA
    Club:
    Seattle
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    i would like to see Harmes instead of sturgis. Harmes, although is a yellow/red card liability, he shows the same poise as mastroeni.
     
  11. dashiel

    dashiel Member+

    Jul 15, 2000
    orange county
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    all this talk of DP rules is moot, it comes down to two very, very simple question.

    would the league benefit from having zidane play one season in MLS?

    and

    where would zidane like to play

    if the answer to first question is yes, and the the answer to the second is LA. then he plays in LA.

    i can't even believe we're debating this, for the entire existence of the league, MLS has broken its own rules when it suits them. they create the DP rule last season and claim that all those other old rules aren't in effect -- and you guys believe them? "no officer, he promised he'd never hit me again, please don't arrest him."
     
  12. xTottixCorex

    xTottixCorex New Member

    Nov 12, 2006
    Indiana
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    LOL!!!:D
     
  13. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    This is a load. For one thing, let's talk Adu. MLS *could* have just assigned him to DC, but they made DC make a trade and draft him (screwing Dallas in the process.) Cuz they wanted Adu to go through the superdraft.

    Further, THE WHOLE POINT of the DP rule is to regularize and make legal some of the previous rulebreaking.
     
  14. Bill Schmidt

    Bill Schmidt BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 3, 2003
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    Okay, so Zidane can go through the SuperDraft too. Or maybe the Galaxy can pick him up on a waiver. But wait, given that he had retired, and maybe the league can make it look like it was only the Galaxy who could convince him to play again, he could be a "discovery." You know, the Galaxy discovered he was willing to play again. The Adu situation was basically breaking the "rule" that a team can decide who/when/what it trades so that the transaction appeared to comply with some kind of rule.
     
  15. churchill2000

    churchill2000 3x MLS Cup Champions

    Jul 12, 2004
    Monde Virtuel
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?



    I found that funny cause I'm a pol. sci. major.
    Golden Rule of Politics: Ends justify the means, or simply put Interests over Values.
     
  16. xb1srw2

    xb1srw2 New Member

    Aug 12, 2005
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    If this is real, the rumor that ZZ is thinking of coming, here's my take.

    Bring him on in.
    It will bring higher profile loks at the league sooner (Mayish) versus later (Julyish).
    The hype of the league will be even higher.
    It is a chance to see a living legend/masterpiece.
    LA will proabably run rampant (which aside from New York, it is clearly known that the league needs success stories in the major venues and LA and NY are the top).
    My beloved Crew will probably be crushed in September, but I am more than willing to take it for the league sake.
    If he wants to come for a year, be a DP, then make way for Landon's foregone DP position, then let it be.
    I think the end result is the league is better off if it happens, and that is what we should all be concerned with, the long term sturdiness of MLS. You will get no haves vs have nots whining from this small venue fan.
     
  17. dashiel

    dashiel Member+

    Jul 15, 2000
    orange county
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    a) you're comparing a 14 year old kid who's only option was to play in MLS and was always going to play in MLS for the first 3-5 years of his career to one of the best players in the world who's rich enough and retired enough to dictate terms.

    b) dc gave up no one of value, dallas was given a player allocation, any one trying to claim that adu wasn't assigned to dc is just delusional.

    i'm not saying zidane is coming, far from it, but if you think MLS would say no to his demands, well that's your prerogative. good luck in the business world.
     
  18. L.A. SOCCER NATION

    L.A. SOCCER NATION ONLY IN L.A.

    Jun 17, 2005
    LOS ANGELES
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    All I know, is that if Zidane actually signs with the Galaxy, the first person that will come to my mind will be "Superdave".

    I will be like:

    "Oh My God! ZZ signed with the Galaxy!, Quick! Someone! Stop SuperDave from doing something stupid! Quick! Stop Him!!!":D
     
  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    LASN, I know you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer. But I'll try again.

    I'm NOT saying Zidane won't go to the Gals. I'm saying I don't think MLS will break the rules to do it, and I don't think they'll allow a phony trade for the 2nd DP slot.

    Hell, I'll go so far as to say I honestly won't be surprised if ZZ goes to the Galaxy. With this much smoke, there's fire. I honestly think there are talks going on. But the Galaxy are going to have to make a real trade to get the DP slot.

    1. No he can't.
    2. When's the next superdraft again? :D
     
  20. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    On your first point, I'm not disputing it, but MLS did it in a legal fashion. Adu went into the draft. Which brings me to your second point.

    I'm NOT NOT NOT saying ZZ won't go to LA. I'm saying I'm extremely doubtful that he'll go there via Calvinball rules. I don't think MLS will just "make it happen." I don't think Houston will trade their DP slot to LA for Pete Vagenas. I think LA will have to make a fair trade.

    Read again EXACTLY what I was responding to.
     
  21. elciclon

    elciclon New Member

    Mar 12, 2005
    BOEDO
    Club:
    CA San Lorenzo de Almagro
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    i just know that i would buy season tickets to see zidane and drive from canoga park to the home depot center every home game, but i wont do it for a guy who simple sells shirts.
     
  22. dashiel

    dashiel Member+

    Jul 15, 2000
    orange county
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    no he didn't, not in any real way. the dc/dallas/adu trade happened two months before the super-draft. mls has played fast and loose with the rules since day one, to expect them to change, regardless of their stated intentions is just naive.

    source
     
  23. Bill Schmidt

    Bill Schmidt BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 3, 2003
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    1. Maybe so, if that's the way the "rules" are written now, though of course the rules are not entirely public, and oh yeah, the league writes them, so it can decide to change them or ignore them.
    2. Whenever the league schedules it or moves it to. The league could also create some new "rules" for a "NotsoyoungforeignplayerDraft" featuring Merlin and Zidane...to be scheduled as soon as the league has signed Zidane. And this year, the rules for determining draft pick order are... 1) teams that wear diagonal stripes pick first, 2) if no teams wear diagonal stripes, the first pick shall go to the team that has Cobi Jones. BUT these rules are ONLY in place for THIS year. Once the "NotsoyoungforeignplayerDraft" has had time to become an MLS tradition...there will be new rules.

    The points some people have been making are:
    1) The rules are not the U.S. Constitution,
    2) While the DP rule may have been framed as cleaning up the rules in general, it does not exactly have the mandate of an inspector general investigation and a couple hundred thousand concerned citizens storming MLS HQ with signs demanding "Transparency Now!"

    The rules as we know them may in fact be unbreakable, or they could be only in force until they conflict with an opportunity for profit. We'll see what happens.
     
  24. Bill Schmidt

    Bill Schmidt BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 3, 2003
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    A black spot on our noble league! Flouting its own rules just to make some cash to help the pro sport in this country survive. Banana republic stuff this is. Transparency now! :)
     
  25. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Zidane to L.A Galaxy by Adidas?

    dashiel, your excerpt contradicts your own argument and supports mine. Strange.

    1. The league is now only 3/13 AEG.
    2. AGAIN, the DP rule is a move to regularize the rules. Maybe the ball rolling left will suddenly stop and roll to the right, but you wouldn't bet on it.
    3. Take off your Galaxy hat and put on your MLS fan hat. If Zidane ends up in LA through shenanigans, it doesn't help the league, it hurts it. Now, Uncle Phil might not see it that way, but 9 other owners representing 10 other teams will.

    I mean, look at DC. Given Moreno and Gomez' ages and Gomez' contract status, if DC doesn't win it this year, they'll be a longshot for 2008, and we'll see about 2009. If the league gives the Galaxy a superteam via shenanigans, that's going to turn off DC fans.

    Look at the Crew. In a precarious situation, because attendance has been declining, but they are just not going to move. Now, the management has made a new commitment to winning and style with the Argentine. But if the league gives the Galaxy a superteam via shenanigans, that's going to turn off Crew fans.

    The Revs are another team with a troubled fan base. They lost Dempsey and didn't replace him, and Joseph isn't a happy camper. If the league makes special rules for the Galaxy while letting the fine recent Revs team fade away, that's going to turn off Revs fans.

    Let's look at the San Jose situation. If a SoCal team is handed a superteam via shenanigans, that's going to hurt Wolff. Such a move would undermine the professionalism and integrity of MLS, so why would SJSU get involved in that?

    NYRB has a fanbase that's dying for a winner, and with a new place opening, and a seeming commitment to excellence, they have a chance to re-establish their attendance and become a helium balloon to the league, rather than an anchor. But if the league gives the Galaxy a superteam via shenanigans, that's going to turn off NYRB fans.

    I can go on a while longer, but you get the point. If LA makes a deal that the fans of the other 12 teams see as a fair trade for their 2nd DP slot, well and good. If the league Calvinballs it, well, have you guys forgotten that the league very nearly died at the height of the Calvinball era? It's been Garber and the ever increasing transparency that has strengthened the league.

    In fact, that's such a key point that many people seem not to understand, I'm gonna repeat it.

    If the league Calvinballs it, well, have you guys forgotten that the league very nearly died at the height of the Calvinball era? It's been Garber and the ever increasing transparency that has strengthened the league.
     

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