Champ Car vs IRL 2007

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by the cup, Mar 14, 2007.

  1. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    I was a big fan of Champ Car back in the late 90's and early 2000's but never paid too much attention to IRL. Well, about the only time I watched an IRL race was to make fun of it since I've always seen the IRL at a rinky dink series surviving off of former Champ Car teams.

    Then I stopped watching both of them all together since Champ Car switched their races over to the SPEED channel which I didn't have on my cable package, and then the IRL started copying Champ Car by holding road course races.

    I haven't watched either of them for about 3 years now but I think I'm going to give both of them a chance again this year seeing as both of them will have all of their races shown on either NBC, CBS, ABC, ESPN and ESPN2. And I'm going to try and watch both of them with an open mind and give both of them a fair chance.
     
  2. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Champ Car schedule

    April 8 - Vegas Grand Prix - NBC
    April 15 - Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach - NBC
    April 22 - Grand Prix of Houston - ESPN
    May 20 - Grand Prix of Zhuhai (China) - ESPN2
    June 10 - G.I. Joe's Grand Prix of Portland - ABC
    June 24 - U.S. Bank Grand Prix of Cleveland - CBS
    July 1 - Grand Prix of St. Jovite (Quebec) - ESPN
    July 8 - Molson Grand Prix of Toronto - ESPN
    July 22 - West Edmonton Mall Grand Prix - ESPN
    July 29 - Canary Foundation San Jose Grand Prix - ESPN2
    August 12 - Grand Prix of Road America - ABC
    September 2 - Grand Prix of Assen (Holand) - ESPN2
    September 9 - Grand Prix of Zolder (Belgium) - ESPN2
    October 21 - Lexmark Indy 300 (Australia) - ESPN2
    November 11 - Gran Premio Telmex (Mexico City) - ESPN2
    December 2 - First Data Grand Prix Arizona - ABC
     
  3. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Indy Car Schedule

    March 24 - XM Satellite Radio Indy 300 - ESPN2
    April 1 - Honda Grand Prix of St. Petersburg - ESPN
    April 21 - Indy Japan 300 - ESPN
    April 29 - Kansas Lottery Indy 300 - ESPN2
    May 27 - Indianapolis 500 - ABC
    June 3 - ABC Supply Co./A.J. Foyt 225 - ABC
    June 9 - Bombardier Learjet 500 - ESPN2
    June 24 - Iowa Corn Indy 250 - ABC
    June 30 - SunTrust Indy Challenge - ESPN
    July 8 - Watkins Glen Indy Grand Prix - ABC
    July 14 - Nashville Indy 200 - ESPN
    July 22 - Honda 200 at Mid-Ohio - ABC
    August 5 - Michigan Indy 400 - ESPN2
    August 11 - Meijer Indy 300 - ESPN2
    August 26 - Indy Grand Prix of Sonoma - ESPN
    September 2 - Detroit Indy Grand Prix - ABC
    September 9 - Chicagoland Indy 300 - ABC
     
  4. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Websites

    One place where Champ Car beats the IRL is on the Internet where the Champ Car website puts the IRL website to shame I think. Judge for yourself but Champ Car's is well put together, easy to navigate, nice to look at, and full of content. The IRL's just looks cheap and is weak on content.

    www.champcarworldseries.com

    www.indycar.com
     
  5. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Champ Car teams and livery

    This year Champ Car will have 17 cars fielded by 10 different teams.

    Dale Coyne Racing - 3 cars
    Newman/Haas/Lanigan Racing - 2 cars
    Minardi Team USA - 2 cars
    Pacific Coast Motorsports - 2 cars
    PKV Racing - 2 cars
    Team Australia - 2 cars
    Conquest Racing - 1 car
    Forsythe Championship Racing - 1 car
    Rocketsports Racing - 1 car
    RuSPORT - 1 car

    Not all of the teams have their livery finalized but it does look like there is going to be alot of black and red colors out on the track this year.
     
  6. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Rocketsports Racing

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  7. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Team Minardi USA

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  8. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
  9. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Conquest Racing

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  10. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Pacific Coast Motorsports

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  11. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Team Australia

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  12. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Newman/Haas/Lanigan Racing

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  13. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Forsythe Championship Racing

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  14. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    PKV Racing

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  15. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Dale Coyne Racing

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  16. kronic160

    kronic160 Member

    Apr 21, 2005
    Mars
    minardi might actually win a race...:D
     
  17. CRASH 4 ARSENAL

    Jan 26, 2006
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I think IRL has made up the ground on Champ Car.

    This year is going to be more competitive too, with other teams winning a few races, not just Penske or Ganassi all year.
     
  18. Pack87Man

    Pack87Man BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 1, 2001
    Quad Cities
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It also helps that IndyCar has more cars than Champ Car, along with paying a whole lot more money than Champ Car. I hate Tony George, but having grown up in Indiana, there's nothing like the Indy 500.
     
  19. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
  20. CRASH 4 ARSENAL

    Jan 26, 2006
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Whelden won in a cakewalk at Homestead. Ganassi had that race figured out. Hopefully AGR can improve on a dismal opener.
     
  21. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    IRL Homestead

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    Well, for the most part that was a pretty boring race. I'll still watch more of their races since that was only the first one of the year but overall that was pretty bad.

    I really wanted to see how well ESPN did at broadcasting and producing the thing but I was not impressed.

    First off, ESPN2 drives me crazy with that damn crawler going constantly across the bottom of the screen. I know that's not the IRL's fault but with that thing going across the bottom and then the constant running order going across the top of the screen I was starting to get vertigo watching the whole damned thing. Also, unlike with NASCAR you can't see the car's number on the car very well anyway so having the car's number stuck with the driver's name on the already annoying running order made it worse.

    Next, their little pit lane interviews during the race are worthless, alot like Brandi Chastain doing those hideous "Coaches Corner" interviews during MLS broadcasts. But unlike MLS only having Brandi on the sidelines, IRL feels they need to have 3 people down in the pits. Three times the hideousness.

    And finally, right out of MLS' scrapbook we got to enjoy side-by-side commercial breaks. I know, some people will say they don't want to miss a moment of the action. Sorry, there was very little action in that race, I would have rather have just watched the commercials on the full screen.

    Overall, I give the whole experience a C-.
     
  22. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Another woman driver in IRL

    It would appear the IRL feels they need another woman driver since it's current two have done so well. (Neither Sarah Fisher nor Danica Patrick have won a race yet.) Also, poor Danica locked her brakes up going in to the pits last night and put her car into the wall.

    Meet Milka Duno.

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    Better yet, she has virtually no open-wheel racing experience. This should be fun to watch.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?seriesId=1&id=2810713
     
  23. malby

    malby Member+

    Liverpool FC
    Republic of Ireland
    May 11, 2004
    Rep of Ireland
    Club:
    Drogheda United
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    I have ni idea what you lot are on about but IRL is the best.
     
  24. CRASH 4 ARSENAL

    Jan 26, 2006
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Ha!

    We are talking about IRL and this big political split that happened a few years back. We are hopeful for unification, but it doesn't look like it will happen any time soon. Would you like to add something?
     
  25. malby

    malby Member+

    Liverpool FC
    Republic of Ireland
    May 11, 2004
    Rep of Ireland
    Club:
    Drogheda United
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Yes. Everybody here of course wants to see unification but they recognise that it might not happen for a while. 2016 would be nice :D
     

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