Takayuki Morimoto [R]

Discussion in 'Japan' started by umbe84, Oct 11, 2006.

  1. umbe84

    umbe84 New Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    Rome, Italy
    Club:
    Calcio Catania
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    eheheh yes! she is lol

    I dont speak japanese :p it's very hard to learn it!! but maybe i should to begin learn it...japanese girls are very nice :p

    I'm looking for a japanese people to moderate and animate japanese section, if someone is interested i will wait him on www.morimotomania.com
     
  2. aiueo-redded

    aiueo-redded Red Card

    Feb 3, 2006
    Japan
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    He became the third youngest foreign player to score in Serie A history.
    The first is Valeri Bojinov and second is Obafemi Martins.
     
  3. Zaphkiel

    Zaphkiel Self-hating Asian

    Mar 3, 2005
    ZOMG NONE!!!11
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    This can only bode well for japanese footballers in general.

    and for japanese strikers in general, in the domestic league, brazilians always seem to be at the top of the scorer's sheet, but its good, and in fact, a relief to see a japanese footballer do well as a striker, or well, I'll assume that he does well.
     
  4. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    Catania must play all the rest of the home games this season in a neutral stadium (=NOT in Catania) and with NO fans.

    For our poor Morimoto, it really sucks.
     
  5. hirayama-redded

    hirayama-redded Red Card

    Nov 15, 2006
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    Today he played only 4 minutes.
     
  6. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    and no goals???!!!??!??!?!?! :p
     
  7. aguy2die4

    aguy2die4 Member

    Mar 26, 2005
    Seoul/London
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    lol
     
  8. umbe84

    umbe84 New Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    Rome, Italy
    Club:
    Calcio Catania
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    i've just added the new web design of MorimotoMania.com

    i hope you will apreciate it:)

    GO TAKAYUKI!!! :D
     
  9. umbe84

    umbe84 New Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    Rome, Italy
    Club:
    Calcio Catania
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    hello!

    Im looking for japanese people who wants help me to animate the japanese forum on www.morimotomania.com

    are there someone interested?
     
  10. umbe84

    umbe84 New Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    Rome, Italy
    Club:
    Calcio Catania
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    Yesterday Takayuki has played 45 min in the match Catania-Siena, playing well and has contribued to score a Catania's goal:)

    Great Taka!

    www.morimotomania.com
     
  11. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Morimoto vs Nakata

    I think Morimoto is potentially a better player than Nakata, simply because is a nicer guy. But Nakata (who I personally do not like much), was the first East Asian player to make an impact in Italy. In a matter of months he was a leader in Perugia, just consider how, a 21yo Japanese, was in charge of taking penalties!

    Morimoto has been in Italy almost a full season, and so far he hasn't played an entire game yet. After 6 months in Italy, Nakata (a midfielder) was already in double digit with goals, including what will become the goal of the season (a bycicle kick).

    I really hope Morimoto has a glorious ride in Europe; however, in a way, he hasn't started yet. For now he is an amazing youth talent, who has made some very impressive appearence with the first squad.

    People forgot about the Nakata-boom because of his early decline and his dreadful seasons in Parma, Florence and England; however, keep in mind how he was traded to AS Roma for some 20m Euro, which is more or less 10 or 20 times the actual value of Morimoto.

    I honestly think Morimoto needs to eat a lot more spaghetti before he achieves what Nakata and Nakamura have achieved in Italy.
     
  12. Attila

    Attila New Member

    Sep 23, 2005
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    goru_no_ura: I can agree with you, but don't forget that Nakata was 21, Morimoto is just 18. That's a big difference!!
    I think in Serie A, Premier League, and Spanish Liga there aren't currently more than 10 or 15 players playing (in total) who are below 18.... and there should be more than 150 who are 21 or more.
    This to say that if you can make it in Serie A (or in a top European League) at 18 you are an unique "phenomenon", while if you can make it at 21 that's pretty normal if you want to be a football player.
    Morimoto in the first 4 months (September to December) has played in the Primavera team of Catania (under-18 national championship). And, with players at his age, he scored like crazy and was among the top three scorers in the overall under-18 national championship! That's why from January he left the Primavera squad and was inserted in the first team, which is something very unusual to see. Of course he hasn't played much yet, but I think Catania is following a very wise and gradual strategy with him.
    In the expectations also the style of play, in particular the athletic and physical aspects must be considered, and in that Morimoto is very well positioned (unlike Nakata or other Japanese players) for a strong and pyhsical European League.

    His current evaluation is around Euro 5 million (there are rumors that Inter Milan offered this amount to Catania, which responded that they won't sell him for any amount before 2 or 3 years), which for a 18 y.o. player is one of the highest evaluations in Europe.
     
  13. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    Attila, thanks for the long and articulated answer.

    I think for the most we agreed with each-other; however, let me try to clarify what I meant: what I wanted to say is, no matter what the age was, Nakata had an amazing first season in Italy for a 21yo; while so far Morimoto has just shown an enormous potential.

    At 18, he really seems he has the qualities needed to succeed, but I have seen many promising 18yo disappear in the anonimous back alleys of Italian soccer, after been tought to be very promising. A perfect example is the Juve youth squad of about 15 years ago: they won both the Championship and the Viareggio International tournament; supposedly they were ready to take over the world, but out of those 16-18 player, only one emerged: Alex Del Piero. All the other, basically failed.

    Another example: Ciccio Grabbi. Played his first game at 18 with Juve, and scored a goal... His ONLY goal in Serie A, ever.

    I hope Morimoto, won't fail, but I guess it is wrong to considering his a success story, since this year for him is barely the preface.

    You have mentioned that there are only a few 18yo's in Europe, think for example of Fabergas. He IS a success story: playing in the World Cup and in the Champions League... Morimoto is still lightyears away from that.

    According to my sources, Morimoto value is between 1 and 2 million Euro (a LOT for a 18 old), depending also on his sponsors.

    One last note: I believe going to Inter Milan would be a HUGE mistake. As organization, it is one of the worse clubs in Italy, at the moment involved in three or four scandals, and I can not remember a youth player succeeding in Inter since Giuseppe Bergomi, in 1981. He'll do good to stay another couple of years at least in a small club, hopefully playing more than this year.
     
  14. Attila

    Attila New Member

    Sep 23, 2005
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    goru_no_ura, thank you forr your post. I think we agree. We have seen young prospects (entering Serie A or a top European championship at 18 y.o. or less) then becoming superstars (examples: Del Piero, Maldini, Rooney, Ronaldo, etc...) and others failing.
    What is sure is that on Morimoto in Italy there are high expectations and the guy is pretty popular. Then only time will tell.

    As for his evaluation, my sources are that the price of the Catania option to acquire him is contractualized at around Euro 1 million, and Catania will obviously exercise this option to acquire him by the end of this season 06/07. But this price was agreed with Tokyo Verdy last year, before the one-year loan. His current evaluation is already gone to around Euro 5 million, thanks not only to his first good few performances in Serie A, but mostly to his very good performances in the Primavera (under-18) national championship from September to December. He was considered one of the top five players (if not the best) of the under-18 national championship, scoring in almost all matches.

    I agree with you that Inter Milan wouldn't be a great solution for him, in any case Catania has already stated that they will not take into consideration any offer for Morimoto at least before two or three seasons. They want him to grow, and they expect a lot from his growth.
     
  15. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    Yep... a lot of cash aswell!! ;)

    Anyway, it's a matter of fact that he has been one of the few good news in the last two disastrous seasons of Italian Calcio. I hope soon he'll get a chance in the starting eleven.
     
  16. Attila

    Attila New Member

    Sep 23, 2005
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    This time sorry but I don't agree with you. (Well, at least on something we don't agree, otherwise it would be boring) ;)
    Let's remember that Italian Calcio is only.... World Champion. Not bad isn't it?
    If you mean for the violence, it happens everywhere in Europe (a fan was killed in Paris after a PSG match in November, Feyenoord was banned from Uefa competitions due to fans violence, last week in Spain the Sevilla coach was hit by a bottle and hospitalized, etc. etc. The only difference is that in Italy they reacted very strongly to fans violence, and that's an important sign).
    If you mean for the 2005/2006 match-fixing scandal, it also happens everywhere. The season before a Bundesliga referee was even arrested and sentenced two years in jail for Bundesliga match-fixing! And Juventus is going back to Serie A without much problems, so in the end this scandal didn't have much effect.
    If you mean as teams performances, let's compare it with other European Teams. In the last 4 Champions League editions, Italian Serie A Teams reached at least the semifinals 5 times, while English Premiere League Teams and Spanish Liga Teams only 4 times. Therefore Serie A seems the leader in term of performances. Both from a National point of view (World Champion) and from a Teams point of view (best Champions League performance) :D
     
  17. umbe84

    umbe84 New Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    Rome, Italy
    Club:
    Calcio Catania
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    Attila where have you seen this new about 5 millon euros offered by Inter Milan for Morimoto?:eek:

    In Italy we dont know anything about it, maybe it's a japanese newspaper lie?:D

    Morimoto is a great talent but i dont think that now is value is 5 millon euros.

    Anyway i think that his next value will grew up.

    Catania has already purchased him (In January) for around 600,000,00 euros.

    He will be the next titular striker of japanese national team very soon...

    in Morimoto i TRUST :)

    www.morimotomania.com
     
  18. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
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    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    Attila, I don't want to go too much OT, however...

    To me, Italians are result-obsessed, thus their soccer is plain boring. This obsession for winning resulted in 4 well-deserved world cups, but also in repeated violence and every kind of scandals, from buying games, thru fixing ref's grids, to faked passports. Serie A games are, for the most, unwatchable.

    The perfect synthesis of Italian soccer is in Inter's game at Valencia: a squallid 0-0, and a hysteric post-game. And after the scramble, Mancini told the media UEFA should give Inter a 0-3 victory... :rolleyes:

    Really, not only EPL or the Bundesliga are better for me: I prefer even the J2 than the Serie A...

    (PS=in case you wonder: I have lived in Italy for 21 years...)
     
  19. Attila

    Attila New Member

    Sep 23, 2005
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    goru_no_ura, yes let's close this OT....

    I could only add that the perfect synthesis of Italian soccer can also be the fantastic AS Roma's victory in Lyon, 2-0 with a soccer showtime (please see Mancini's goal....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N19h4N7o4Q0). It was on the same day of the Inter match you mention, it's just about which Mancini you watch! ;)

    After all it's a matter of opinions... If you say that you personally prefer J2 to Serie A it's all about very, very personal preferences...
    Besides personal preferences, which must be respected, we can watch the results and data, and as I mentioned Italian soccer is n.1 worldwide both in National Team (World Champion) and Clubs performances (more Champions League semifinals achieved by Serie A Clubs, than Premier League or Spanish Liga, in the past four editions).

    Closing this OT, we can say that Italian Serie A has in it tons of drama (with positive and negative aspects for that) and gives a huge importance to the final scores and results (with positive and negative aspects for that).

    Going back to the topic.... Go Morimoto!!! :) Hope he will play in Torino on Sunday
     
  20. Attila

    Attila New Member

    Sep 23, 2005
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    Umbre, according to the info I have, Morimoto's price was around Euro 1 million, maybe 800,000 or 900,000 but not really 600,000.
    But this price was agreed one year ago, and his current evaluation is around Euro 5 million, not surprisingly since 17 years old striker Foti's evaluation is 7-8 million....
    Just remember that Chelsea paid Mikel (19 years old) Euro 25 million last year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikel_John_Obi) and the guy hadn't even played a match yet in any decent European League (just 6 matches in Norway).

    Then Morimoto... looks cheap! :)
     
  21. Yojimbo

    Yojimbo Member

    Mar 8, 2007
    Norf London
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    I hope both morimoto and oguro start that match, doubt it tho
     
  22. hirayama-redded

    hirayama-redded Red Card

    Nov 15, 2006
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!


    Morimoto got injured :(
     
  23. Yojimbo

    Yojimbo Member

    Mar 8, 2007
    Norf London
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    Dam't!
     
  24. umbe84

    umbe84 New Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    Rome, Italy
    Club:
    Calcio Catania
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!


    yes:( maybe his season is already ended

    that's a pity...he was playing more with the first team.

    Come on Taka! we will wait you!!

    www.morimotomania.com
     
  25. takoyaki

    takoyaki Red Card

    Feb 10, 2007
    Re: Takayuki Morimoto: the new japanese star!

    ********.
    i want to kill the guy who injured morimoto.
     

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