Guillermo "el pando" Ramirez to KC????

Discussion in 'Sporting Kansas City' started by Guatefc, Feb 2, 2007.

  1. Guatefc

    Guatefc New Member

    Jun 1, 2005
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    Re: Mario Rodríguez back to MLS??

    i don't know if anyone heard but Guillermo "el pando" Ramirez is rumored to go to Kansas as well

    http://www.guatefutbol.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1461&Itemid=2

    the transfer is going to be a clear deal worth 270,000 $

    and mario will be a loan deal basis

    but very good pick ups, pando has so far 4 goals in the season for municipal which started a few weeks ago

    Mario hasn't played a game since october, but should find form by april, his crossing is decent and hit or miss at times , but he mostly know for his work up and down the line , he has a real good touch , speed wise he can be quick, but not blazing fast.

    pando is a fancy dribbler, very strong , he lacks a shot , but if he plays a center midfield role he can score a lot .

    both has had a up and down careers in the last two years, but if given the proper chance and put in thier natrual posistions they will thrive
     
  2. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Mario Rodríguez back to MLS??

    Pando? The same guy that played for the Galaxy a few years ago? No thank you. In his time with LA, he scored all of 1 goal, granted that was in the MLS Cup final, but you say he can score a lot? History in MLS has proven otherwise.

    And Mods, can we get his post copied into a new thread to discuss this possible development and keep it seperate from the Rodriguez discussion?
     
  3. the_cyclones

    the_cyclones New Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    The Cauldron
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Mario Rodríguez back to MLS??

    According to that article, it is the same guy.
     
  4. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Mario Rodríguez back to MLS??

    yeah, consider me underwhelmed.
     
  5. Spoon

    Spoon Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    Overland Park Ks
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember this guy from his galaxy days. He is an ok player, but not one imo that is one to a spark to a very dead, defensive midfield.
     
  6. jdoppel

    jdoppel Member

    Jan 12, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    im very against picking up ex-galaxy players too.

    i know - Sasha turned out to be not such a bad guy, and a good midfielder, but my objection still stands in general. i will remain skeptical of Hartman until he proves me wrong again.
     
  7. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    He's Guatemala's answer to Mike Burns. He scores a 40 yard rocket goal, then spends the next 20 games shooting the ball into Row LL trying to duplicate it.

    I went to the final USA/GUA World Cup Qualifier a few days after we beat Mexico in Columbus. Guatemala was coming off of a huge win over Trinidad where Pando scored one of his rocket golazos. The Guatemala City papers the day after the U.S. game consistently called him the worst player. The ratings ran the gamut from 2 to 3. He spent the whole game trying to score from 40 yards out.

    He's like a poor man's Jose Burciaga, Jr. At least Jose has the good sense to put four or five of those in the back of the net, and mix his head shaking shanks with actual crosses.
     
  8. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was always in the "Pando-apologists" group. He's a good passer, and has the size & skill to effectively control the offense from the center of the field. With LA, Sampson always put him on the left because A) Sampson loved Vagenas too much to put him anywhere else and B) Sampson is a god-damned fool

    Yes he had 60+ shots without a goal. But, he is an above-average midfielder for MLS. Nothing to base a franchise on, but he is pretty good.
     
  9. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was gonna say Guatemala's answer to Fancisco Gomez.

    Thanks for spliting the thread Spoon, or whichever of the mods it was.
     
  10. Wizardscharter

    Wizardscharter New Member

    Jul 25, 2001
    Blue Springs, MO
    Ugh.

    All those in favor?

    {crickets}

    All those opposed?

    {raises hand}
     
  11. jameseyla

    jameseyla Member

    Jun 8, 2003
    138
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    anyone dissing Pando's play on the Galaxy must realize this. He has played central midfield his entire life until Steve Sampon got the idea to put him at left mid. That'd be like asking Kaka to play wingback all of a sudden. It was stupid. Pando left the Galaxy and lead the Guatemalan league in scoring, easily. He's really good as long as a dipsh!t like Sampson isn't his coach.
     
  12. dashiel

    dashiel Member+

    Jul 15, 2000
    orange county
    pando, as with so many other players from the '05 squad was ruined by steve sampson. sampson played him on the left side of midfield, which was just dumb. i don't know if your new coach is the right person to do it, but under the right tutelage i think pando could be a nightmare for defenders in MLS.
     
  13. Husker

    Husker New Member

    Mar 14, 1999
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I for one wouldn't mind see the guy suit up for the Wizards. We certainly need a spark in the midfield and I don't see alot of alternatives right now.
     
  14. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Anyone who's watched Pando play with Guatemala over the years knows full well that Steve Sampson isn't responsible for ruining him. He's been squandering his talent all by himself.

    Frankly, I'd rather pass on this project.
     
  15. TequilaJoal

    TequilaJoal Red Card

    Mar 3, 2002
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where is the realism?

    I see most of Galaxy supporters like myself are all trying to tell you KC fans that pando is a "real" baller.

    But if you choose to believe that he is washed up at 26 and was a bum for the Galaxy why should we get em type attitude.

    Well I for one wouldn't mind him in my midfield right now. You (Kansas City) don't have much in your midfield right now to be turning down fairly talented players.

    Besides his hair is cool.!!!!
     
  16. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Re: Where is the realism?

    Kansas City's midfield has been a graveyard for players who are "real" ballers. Players who show flash, hustle, and talent in training, then suck for 90 minutes on game day.

    Chris Brown has all the talent in the world. Just ask him. But seriously, he's great. It's awesome watching his skill in practice. But he sucks eggs on gameday.

    I've watched countless Guatemala and Galaxy games with Pando. He looks like he should kick ass. But other than one kick in those countless games, I've never seen him deliver his promise. Yeah, you won the Cup. He gets and A for Timing, but unless he's willing to start at around $40k, I'm not particularly interested.

    Like anything in MLS, it's all about tradeoffs. If he wants SI money, I'd take a pass. If he wants end of the bench money with a chance to earn a raise, then I really can't complain. Every MLS team, due to salary cap constraints, has to "make do" with some less than preferable or "project" players.
     
  17. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Where is the realism?

    So the Galaxy fans are saying that if Pando was not on the left, and instead played centrally he'd have been a better player.

    But I then look at the article, and at the beginning of the 5th paragraph, it talks about where he would play. This is the key word in that sentence "izquierda" which if my Spanish isn't too bad, means left. So Onalfo would see him on the left side, the same position Sampson had him on.
     
  18. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Re: Where is the realism?

    And if we're paying a transfer fee of $270k, that's way too much, and it also means he'll likely be making more than $40k.

    Ugh.
     
  19. PezJunkie

    PezJunkie Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Independence, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just like how the big South American scouting trip has, thus far, resulted in rumors of 2 players who have already spent time in MLS. (One of which was in the US last year also.)

    Wow... you traveled 5000+ miles for that?
     
  20. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The big Argentina trip, and yet we've only heard about a couple of catrachos that Onalfo would've faced in CONCACAF time and time again.

    I'm guessing the CONMEBOL stuff will come later.
     
  21. Guatefc

    Guatefc New Member

    Jun 1, 2005
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
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    here is Mario rodriguez and Pando, training
     
  22. PezJunkie

    PezJunkie Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Independence, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bah.. stupid geography. ;)

    Previous statement is withdrawn, due to the fact that I clearly have no idea where Guatemala is.
     
  23. hipityhop

    hipityhop Member

    New Mexico United
    United States
    Jan 10, 1999
    Mission TX
    Club:
    SønderjyskE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Where is the realism?

    Now I know we don't want these stiff.. send him back to the galaxy!
     
  24. Wizardscharter

    Wizardscharter New Member

    Jul 25, 2001
    Blue Springs, MO
    Partial points for it at least being South
     
  25. USAfutbol

    USAfutbol New Member

    Jan 7, 2006
    This is exactly right.

    We've been discussing this on a Guatemalan Players Abroad thread. Pando has been played off the National team just like Loco. Neither were even called in for the UNCAF nations cup training camp!?!

    Pando has also been playing left midfield for Municipal all year. He looked simply average for them and this is the Guatemalan league.

    The problem is that the Guate press has a history of making news out of rumors. Municipal has been actively shopping both Loco and Pando around because they don't need either player and they have bigger reputations in the US then in Guate. When they start talking to teams the news story goes from having spoken to MLS to "the team is interested". My suspicion is that Municipal got someone on the phone and proposed this deal. Now it is considered to be in playby the press eventhough it may not be.

    This happened last year with Pando and Loco, as well as with Plata, Pezzarossi, Contreras, Sandoval and Villatoro. Each has been linked publicly as "close" to an MLS side and none have even been brought in on trial.
     

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