Who's fault is it?

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by The circle of life 0, Dec 15, 2006.

  1. The circle of life 0

    Dec 11, 2006
    Everyone saw how Zizou headbutted Marco Materazzi in the chest.
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    i was just curious about other people's opinion.
    Who's fault was it?

    On a funny note, i think it is hilarious that he went straught to the ground, that was pretty funny, but he did get a headbut to the chest, so i can understand why.

    i think that Marco called his sister a terrorist or something ridiculous like that.
     
  2. Milliano

    Milliano New Member

    Jul 7, 2006
    Whatever said by Marco that was against the rules... it happens often in football and I would say it's mostly Zidane's fault. Players are sometimes even allowed to cuss at referees, and they don't even get carded (regardless of what the rule says). It's just crazy to react like that from verbal abuse in a World Cup Final.

    ... though personally I cannot help but like Zidane MORE rather than less after that incident.
     
  3. leg_breaker

    leg_breaker Member

    Dec 23, 2005
    It's Materazi's fault. ther's no excuse for bad sportsmanship.
     
  4. coppa

    coppa New Member

    Aug 21, 2005
    Downingtown, PA
    Wrong. You can expect to be cursed at, usually the ref isn't around to hear it. Zidane lost his cool and reacted which was costly. That being said I still love him as a player. :D
     
  5. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I seriously hope you are just trolling.
     
  6. jeffenbauer

    jeffenbauer Member

    Jul 17, 2002
    dallas, tx
    I'm sorry but, I don't understand the question.

    "Who is fault is it?" just doesn't make sense.
     
  7. __Dynamite__

    __Dynamite__ Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    Krusa (Denmark)
    Well, Zidane wacked out there as he does from time to time. So who else is to blame but him?
     
  8. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    Zidane was giving him verbal and stated that if he wanted his shirt he would give it to him after the match (in response to Materazzi holding it previously). Materazzi retorted by saying he would rather have Zidane's sister. Zidane then lost the plot, again, on the biggest stage of all and retired in disgrace. That's when the Zidane PR machine kicked into gear making ridiculous accusations towards Materazzi. It's also when the French decided to hail him as a hero for some unknown reason. The fault clearly lies with Zidane. If he cannot handle comments of that nature then he shouldn't have been playing sport at any level.
     
  9. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
  10. coppa

    coppa New Member

    Aug 21, 2005
    Downingtown, PA
    Didn't know you were on the field. :rolleyes:
     
  11. Teso Dos Bichos

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    It's clear you cannot read, since both sides have publically explained the event. It's not difficult son.
     
  12. LosMerengues89

    Jan 1, 2006
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Of course not. Lashing out after verbal abuse/a bad tackle is quite common. Headbutting is a bit less common than the more traditional kick at the aggressor though. It's just the incident we are talking about happens to involve one of the greatest footballers of our generation, and is taken place in what also happens to be his last match, that last match being the World Cup Final.
     
  13. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Trash talk goes on in every sport, and usually players just shrug it off. Zidane didn't.
     
  14. Stretch Armstrong

    Jan 15, 2004
    Zidane's fault without a doubt, but what a way to sign off.

    A true maverick.
     
  15. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Zidane should have been thankful that he wasn't facing Uruguay. You don't want to put up with a team of 11 Marco Materazzis without the goalscoring ability.
     
  16. Sagy

    Sagy Member

    Aug 6, 2004
    Zidane.

    Next question...
     
  17. Henry Porter

    Henry Porter Member

    Dec 9, 2005
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep.
     
  18. The circle of life 0

    Dec 11, 2006
    I am going to side with Materazzi and Zidane.

    There really was no point in saying whatever it was to Zidane, I mean the play before was a goal kick, and the missed goal was, well a miss, so there really was no point in his action's.

    On the other side, Zizzou just over reacted, if my sister was called a terrorist, i would just go on, because i get that kind of garbage thrown in my face all of the time when i am playing soccer, and i dont flip out like he did.

    Zizzou is still a good player in my mind, and this doesn't change my image of him.:D

    i also didn't know that they could cuss the refs out and not get a card for it, that is kind of cool. :cool:
     
  19. Teso Dos Bichos

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    No-one was called a terrorist. Don't blindly believe Zidane's PR machine. Comments are made all the time in sport, work and everyday life. Zidane simply couldn't hack it.
     
  20. The circle of life 0

    Dec 11, 2006
     
  21. mikeivan

    mikeivan Member

    Nov 1, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Common symptons of testosterone injections: unbelievable stamina and uncontrollable rage.

    As someone said, this incident will be mentioned in Zidane's obituary. What a legacy.
     
  22. Teso Dos Bichos

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    See post #8.
     
  23. pastir_

    pastir_ New Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    Whose fault it was? Fault?? You are making it sound like it was a bad thing.

    Materazzi was bending the rules of the game (holding of the shirt) and of common courtesy (issuing vulgarities) thus ignoring the spirit of sportmanship in order to have a greater chance of winning the game.

    Zidane on the other hand defended his honor by meeting a verbal assault the only way he saw fit which in this case meant knocking out the perpetrator.

    And both of them defended the legitimacy of their respective actions so I don`t see why would it have to be a regretable event or something somebody should be at fault for. Who deserves more credit for it might have been a better question.

    In the end Materazzi got his trophy he deemed important enough to sacrifice the last bit of honor he might have stil had.

    And Zidane on the other hand avenged the insult by inflicting physical pain on the Italian restoring his inner calm and in the process produced one of the most memorable exits in history of the game. And demonstrated that with some at least the ages old moral code "Don`t give crap & don`t take crap." stil has some relevance even in today`s corrupt game of football where it is accepted as normal to employ any means no matter how lowly for the sake of winning.

    So in the end; Zidane I salute you. And Materazzi; enjoy your trophy. If you can.
     
  24. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Shirt pulling... trash talking are all parts of the game. It happened all the time and in every game. Does anyone here actually think headbutt happens in every single game?

    Besides, the whole point of trash talking is to piss the other guy off to throw him off his game. Materrazi achieved his biggest result getting Zidane the straight red card. His play acting was unsportman-like, but was it his fault? I do not think so. I am speaking as a Real Madrid fan who supported Zidane and an AC Milan fan who hated Materrazi.
     

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