Pastorino to Resign, Ellinger to follow?, Kreis new coach?

Discussion in 'Real Salt Lake' started by Deuce, May 3, 2007.

  1. Deuce

    Deuce Member

    Nov 16, 2004
    Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
  2. Arelius

    Arelius Member

    Mar 23, 2004
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Damn. Sad news.
    I missed running into him today at Xango by a few minutes.
     
  3. Black Prince

    Black Prince Member

    Sep 11, 2006
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Wow. I didn't expect this. Anybody have inside info?
     
  4. Matt D

    Matt D Member

    Mar 17, 2006
    new orleans
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    "as part of a larger announcement at RSL Offices on Thursday"

    Interesting. Thanks for breaking the story, and good luck to you guys in Salt Lake in whatever happens in the future. You guys deserve better results.
     
  5. Arelius

    Arelius Member

    Mar 23, 2004
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Lots of questions.

    Is Steve being forced out? Is Steve being used as a scapegoat for RSL’s recent results? Is there a change in Ellinger’s role?
     
  6. Deuce

    Deuce Member

    Nov 16, 2004
    Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Right now I only know what I have posted on AYL Soccer. I have no other answers.
     
  7. Czar Pazzo

    Czar Pazzo Member

    Jul 25, 2003
    The Darjeeling Ltd
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Wow what a scoop, great job Deuce.

    So the questions on everyone's mind:

    1. Who is the new GM?
    2. What happens (if anything) with Ellinger?


    ... if only I could get ahold of Elroy and Loaf...
     
  8. Arelius

    Arelius Member

    Mar 23, 2004
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    I’ve already posted on the Milwaukee thread to see if Peter Wilt is available…
     
  9. RSL Donk

    RSL Donk BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 24, 2006
    Utah
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Sad news, Pastorino was one of the few in the FO who seemed to give a damn about the fans. I'll miss him.
     
  10. Fuerza Real

    Fuerza Real New Member

    Mar 16, 2006
    Lion in Zion
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Re: Pastorino Resigns


    *Is it safe to say that Steve's relatively near the top on the list of people who have done the most for MLS soccer? Or is he on a just on the list?

    Either way, he's a cool dude. Every time I saw him he took time to talk. He did a lot for RSL, and I wish him the best.
     
  11. Czar Pazzo

    Czar Pazzo Member

    Jul 25, 2003
    The Darjeeling Ltd
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Being caught up in the news, I forgot to add my thanks to Steve. I only spoke with him personally maybe four or five times, but he was always very friendly and treated the fans with respect and appreciation.

    I thought it was great when he showed up to the very first Loyalists tailgate with a bunch of beers and talked with us for a bit.

    Classy guy.
     
  12. soccermanRSL

    soccermanRSL JELLACTICOS!!

    Apr 22, 2007
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    He's gone. Has to be.
     
  13. nsps

    nsps Member

    Jul 26, 2006
    Salt Lake City
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Wow. I compulsively checked the news sites before going to bed and didn't expect this. I never personally interacted with Pastorino, but he always seemed like a standup guy who was willing to speak with the fans and answer tough questions. Someone here recently posted that he was tied to Ellinger, so I can only assume that that's part of the bigger announcement.
     
  14. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Under normal circumstances, yes...

    But this is the RSL FO we're talking about here, which has developed the reputation of having the nasty habit of snatching defeat right out of the mouth of victory...

    Ellinger as coach AND GM???

    (Oh, the humanity!)
     
  15. USAfutbol

    USAfutbol New Member

    Jan 7, 2006
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    This is a shame - while results may not be what we had hoped, and while changes are in order, at the end of the day this is the one guy that would have been good to keep around in a different capacity due to his passion and commitment to the club... Ellinger I just hope is straight up fired.
     
  16. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Seemed like a truly nice guy when I met him in passing at the US qualifier in SLC a couple of years back. Then again, I'm a sucker for a GM who buys beer for the fans. Good luck Steve, and good luck RSL on righting the ship.
     
  17. RedDevil013

    RedDevil013 Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    I am going to miss steve. He is probably the only one in the front office who would actually take the time to answer people's emails personally. He truly cared. Sad to see him go. Why do I get a sinking feeling that Ellinger is now coach and GM?:mad:
     
  18. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    By all accounts, a great guy. He will land somewhere good. We will find out today if this is due to on the field or front office lack of performance, possibly both.

    It could be that businessman Checketts, who has not previously shown much interest in the performance of the team on the field, is looking at the $7.5 million public relations blunder and decided to drop the ax on Pastorino because he didn't have better PR people shifting public expectations months ago to make the 'investment' pill easier to swallow.

    It could be that Checketts has looked at the 0-2-2 record and said, Wha da f??? and realized that the playoffs are terribly in doubt already and decided to replace both Pastorino and Ellinger for engineering a team with too many attackers, a formation that doesn't use the attackers well, and too few quality defenders and practices that were a waste of time.

    But, if Spencer Checketts is made GM, run for the hills. I've seen family run sports operations before. The Atlanta Falcons of the 1980s run by the Smith family, I referred to them derisively as the 'Smiff Famly' due to their continual incompetence at all levels of operation. The only reason the franchise was successful is that even the most incompetent NFL team could make money hand over fist in those years.
     
  19. Ryantherusskie

    Mar 17, 2006
    Where it's kept Real
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    I've never met the man, but I've only heard good things about him.

    I'd like to say that I'm anxiously awaiting good news today, but I've come to expect nothing but disappointment from this team these days. For some reason, I can't help but feel that Pastorino was forced out as a scapegoat, or simply resigned in disgust.

    Is it possible that he resigned as GM only to continue on in another capacity at RSL? Not as coach, but somewhere else in the front office? Maybe Dean Howes is out? Whatever announcement is made, for some reason I highly doubt that Ellinger is out. He seems to have some sort of free pass - devoid of pressure.
     
  20. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Steve is a class guy. I've met him a few times and have had many email conversations with him.

    I am sad to see this happen to him, but RSL has some massive problems that require massive changes.

    Good luck to Steve and his family.

    EDIT: Also, props to Deuce for breaking the story.
     
  21. Boz

    Boz RSL Family

    Jul 14, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Thank you for your services, Steve, and for being a man and stepping down.

    Hopefully your example will be a catalyst for others to follow suit.
     
  22. Lizzie Bee

    Lizzie Bee Member+

    Jul 27, 2004
    Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    It would be nice if we could do something for him -- some sort of farewell gift -- from the fans collectively.

    I was profoundly sad to hear he was leaving. He has been outstanding to the fans in every way.
     
  23. I_Believe_In_Kreis

    Oct 2, 2006
    on the pitch
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    This news makes me happy and sad at the same time. Sad because Steve was such a nice guy and a committed family man......I gave Steve tons of crap about everything RSL over the years, and he was always very patient and understanding. Who remembers when he logged on to realsaltlake.org and asked fans what features they wanted in the stadium? Not many GM's would do that. We've truly lost a gentleman in our organization.

    It makes me happy because there's no sugar coating the countless blunders this organization has made on and off the field. While you certainly can't blame him for everything that went wrong, the nature of business is that the higher-ups take the blame. Work might roll downhill, but shit rolls uphill in business.

    One last thought: The decision on who replaces Pasto is HUGE. If Dave makes a strong hire, that person could turn this ship around in a hurry. Of course, if he makes John Ellinger GM, then God help us all.

    P.S. Thanks for doing what's best for the club, Steve. It takes a real man to admit he's holding others back. I wish a certain coach would figure that out.
     
  24. Aerick

    Aerick New Member

    Dec 13, 2006
    Sandy, UT
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Sad day. I really liked Steve. I hope that he does well wherever he goes.
     
  25. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pastorino Resigns

    Wouldn't it make more sense for RJ Noto or Trey Fitz-Gerald to take over as temporary GM?
     

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