Who should be El Tin's Striking Partner?

Discussion in 'Ecuador' started by Ladic, Mar 27, 2006.

  1. Ladic

    Ladic Member

    Jul 19, 2005
    Guayaquil
    lets settle this once and for all.
     
  2. regulator

    regulator Member

    Apr 25, 2004
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i voted for carlos tenorio, but if kaviedes gets his sh*t together, he is the hands down choice. kaviedes is a great complement to tin. tin is a target forward, who is slow but has a great header, and is great inside the box. kaviedes is a forward who can make his own shot, can dribble, and can beat defenders one on one (dribbling and beating defenders are not tin's specialties). from the holland game, however, i saw that carlos tenorio (altho he needs to work on his shot) has some of the same qualities as kaviedes. he was better on the dribble than i had remembered, and so if he works on his game between now and late may, i think he could find himself starting.
     
  3. regulator

    regulator Member

    Apr 25, 2004
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oh and with lara, i think he shouldnt be starting for the same reasons as salas shouldnt start.. his size and physical abilities make him best used as a supersub around the 60th minute, as a spark of energy, rather than from the beginning, where the more physical center backs will mark him out of contention. wasnt lara used in the midfield during qualifying? (like an attacking mid?) i think that would be a better spot for him anyway
     
  4. juanse_moncayo

    Jul 29, 2004
    Columbus OH- Ecuador
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
  5. loraz

    loraz New Member

    May 12, 2005
    don't forget that it is close to summer when the world cup begins. The weather conditions are just perfect for Ecuadorian players. Lara, salas woould do fine as starters but but having them at the 60th minute is just as good.

    After seeeing Carlos tenorio play agaisnt Holland, I rather see him play along side with Tin but then again, Lara has got some killer crosses. aaahhh decisions, decisions.
     
  6. kaviedes_freak

    kaviedes_freak New Member

    Oct 1, 2004
    Toronto
    why is salas not a choice?
     
  7. Ciclon_Ecuatoriano

    Ciclon_Ecuatoriano New Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    Toronto
    this is bull, we all know that Kaviedes, once he got his stuff together, is the handsdown choice, no one else should even be considered. if not Kaviedes, then the only logical choices are Carlos Tenorio, Franklin Salas, and Roberto Mina, as any of these guys can complement Tin well. I like Borja, but he is not ready yet, and same goes for la Metralla, but they are boys to watch out for.
     
  8. loraz

    loraz New Member

    May 12, 2005
    yeah but consider how much game play he has had with the NT. Will he compliment the other players?
     
  9. regulator

    regulator Member

    Apr 25, 2004
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i thought salas has been inactive for a long time with an injury.. i dont know if hes fully recovered or regained his form yet. anyone else have more info on him?
     
  10. loraz

    loraz New Member

    May 12, 2005
    I'm going to be a very dissapointed fan if Salas' injury impedes him from participating in the world cup.

    That's just our luck.
     
  11. yoryi

    yoryi Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Boogie Down BRONX!
    Yo el MAS sabio del futbol ecuatotiano:D ,has to agree with Mr.Regulator in 90% of what he has said.Yes el tin is a natural center forward who's game is inside the box,no question.I am not a big Kaviedes fan, but would have loved for him to be the set up man for Tin.But he f!cked himself over and its not gonna happened.The only man who at THIS(alot of sh!t can happen between now and June 9) time is the man for the job,,is "Che"Carlitos,who is scoring like a maniac at the Qatar league,who in MY opinoin is better than our sh!tty league;).Mina,Baldeon,Calderon,Figueroa no chance.La Metralla has shown some sign of NT material,but is not a starter for Emelec,so he won't be Tins "dance partner".We need players who are active and in competition like in copa.This is where "Canguro" Borja comes in mind,I'm not crazy about him,but he is showing signs of improvement and is playing at a WAY better competition than the other"lowlifes" mentioned.I also would want to see what the kid,Felipe Caicedo has to offer.LFS should have paired him up with Tenorio in the Holland game instead of Benitez who is not ready for NT statis.For those who have not seen Caicedo played,I saw him in the juvenil last year and his game is like el Tins only with more speed so you figure that out.Has for the Salas and Lara BS,Salas will be rusty come June,we don't want that.And again Mr.Regulator is correct Lara is not a starter,but a sparkplug of energy for the last 20 to 25 minutes of play.To me Lara is a "little"bit better than Salas.I know he had a bad game against Libertad for copa,but that was only ONE BAD game.Lara has more tricks in his bag than Salas.
     
  12. ecuafutbolfreak

    Jun 3, 2004
    Quito
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    haha that's a good one. lara better then salas! hhahhaah ... right...:rolleyes:
     
  13. Ladic

    Ladic Member

    Jul 19, 2005
    Guayaquil
    I didnt put Salas, because I dont know if he will be ready or fit to be in the world cup, at this point it looks very unlikely for him to be anything but a sub due to his injury and lack of competitive matches.
     
  14. yoryi

    yoryi Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Boogie Down BRONX!
    I know I"m right,,,,,when have I been wrong?:eek:
     
  15. ecuafutbolfreak

    Jun 3, 2004
    Quito
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    how about now.:p and a bunch of other times, but i don't keep track, i don't have enough fingers and thumbs for that.
     
  16. luis1950

    luis1950 Member

    Emelec
    Ecuador
    Dec 27, 2005
    Ecuador
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I think it should be Darwin Caicedo <img>

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  17. ecuaboy12

    ecuaboy12 Member

    May 18, 2005
    Lehigh Acres FL
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I Put Kaviedes Because I think with him at his best with El Tin as his Striking Patner I think they would b a force to be wreckin with. But if he is not ready for the the first match are next best option would probably be Borja or Caicedo. I also don't think Lara is a Starter Yet either I think he is good in the second half so if we need to he comes in and finishes it off.
    This is just my opinion guys don't kill for saying this:eek: But tell me what u think
     
  18. ecuafutbolfreak

    Jun 3, 2004
    Quito
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    good, except Salas for Lara is a better choice.
     
  19. ecuaboy12

    ecuaboy12 Member

    May 18, 2005
    Lehigh Acres FL
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    U'r Right I Think They're Both good choices
     
  20. loraz

    loraz New Member

    May 12, 2005
    Maybe but for me, I have to see him in action one more time. "La Metralla" is know to tame wild balls and sink them in. (that sounds so phallic). We have to see him in action. Why Suarez does not call him for duty is beyond me. For Suarez not to call him makes me want to jump into conclusions and critisize his choices. To be honest, this really pisses me off.


    I'm reading this thread and I am hearing this debate on who's better, Lara or Salas bla bla bla.

    Neither one is better..they just have diffrent magic....call it the yin yan. The completion of opposite hemispheres. I personally think Salas and Lara should be teamed up because their services are imaculate. Howeve...right now an only right now, because of Salas' injury, Lara is better. Consider the atrophy issue and the Loss of play time Salas has undergone. WE got to be realistic. As of now, who is ready and who is not should be the question, not who is better.
     
  21. kaviedes_freak

    kaviedes_freak New Member

    Oct 1, 2004
    Toronto
    well lets look at some of lara's recent performences. like his last two club matches. libertad and cuenca. i watched both games and before watching this match against cuenca i hoped for nacional to lose because they deserved to after their terrible loss to libertad. and i got my wish. lara played as bad here as he did against libertad. always trying to win the game on hs own. he doesnt pass....how hard can that be? 100% or not, salas is a handful for ANY defence. lara has his days, but other times he makes u wonder why does he wear the shirt? just cuz u say lara is better doesnt make it true. i dont need to explain AGAIN why he is better. i think ecuador's trouble spot is the center midfield position anyway with that oldfart avoyi. we dont need players who are seniors on our team. urrutia and edwin all the way.
     
  22. loraz

    loraz New Member

    May 12, 2005
    ok. lets see what he does in then next two games. If he plays bad, well then I forced to agree with you.

    He had very few bad games as oppsose to many great games. The majority here suppor Cristian Lara t as a great player...A very great player
     
  23. yoryi

    yoryi Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Boogie Down BRONX!
    I don't know why many of you guys are catching titty attacks,cause as far has I know BOTH of them will NOT be in the starting lineup.Lara could be use if we are in need of creativity and need some new attacking ideas.Mushroom head Salas can be use IF we are winning becuase he spends most of the time on the pitch due to the faltas he gets,this would be good to run out the clock.:p
     
  24. kaviedes_freak

    kaviedes_freak New Member

    Oct 1, 2004
    Toronto
    what about frog face lara? dont forget salas earned us a lot of dangerous free kicks(defenders forced to foul him)and earned us our 2 penalties in the qualifiers. i dont know why you have to diss one of our best players. take a chill pill mr know it all. :D
     
  25. loraz

    loraz New Member

    May 12, 2005
    yeah compay, who nominated you the omnicient one? you don't even know who is the real one catching a titty attack. Do you know the diffrences.

    Snaps!

    We should have a poll on who knows more in this forum. That would be halarious!
     

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