Best Goal Scorers of the 20th Century

Gustav · Nov 18, 2004

Where's Maradona in all of this? was he such a poor goalscorer?

Walter3000 · Nov 19, 2004

lanman said:

Looked into this a bit and found that Greaves scored 22 or 32 FA Cup goals (two sites, two conflicting numbers), 5 League Cup goals and 9 European goals for Spurs. I couldn't find his Chelsea stats anywhere and he only scored in the League for West Ham. I don't know if he played any cup games in for Milan in his short time there.
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137 goals in 160 games for chelsea.

persiantiger · Nov 19, 2004

I dunno about league goals but if we are talking about national goals it has to be Ali daie hands down.

Just got named the world's top scorer of 2004 at the age of 37.

Iran's Daie is the only man to have scored more than 100 national goals with 102 goals. The closest to daie's record is puskas with 83 or 87 not sure. Pele is 3rd with 78.

I don't care if most of his goals where against crappy teams, the fact is the man is a finisher, if the teams were so crappy how come no one else in the region and in the world could score on those teams like daie. Not many players can for example score 4 goals against a team like korea in 1 game. The amazing thing about daie is he just started playing soccer when he was 24! His first national game was in 93, so he scored these many goals in just 11 years.
Go sultan daie, 100+ and counting

jessicaone60 · Nov 19, 2004

Gregoriak said:

Based on goals from domestic league and caps.

For some players, I also have the goals from domestic cup and international club games, these are indicated with an *.

Rank-Goals-Player-Career Span

01---758---PELÉ from 21 years [1956-1977]*
02---681---Ferenc PUSKÁS from 23 years [1943-1966]
03---617---Gerd MÜLLER from 16 years [1965-1981]*
04---553---Uwe SEELER from 18 years [1954-1972]*
05---544---Josef BICAN from 24 years [1931-1955]
06---539---EUSÉBIO from 17 years [1960-1977]*
07---504---Alfredo DI STÉFANO from 21 years [1945-1966]*
08---484---ZICO from 23 years [1971-1994]*
09---477---Imre SCHLOSSER from 23 years [1905-1928]
10---448---Gyula ZSENGELLER from 17 years [1935-1952]
11---448---Fritz WALTER from 20 years [1939-1959]*
12---419---Gunnar NORDAHL from 18 years [1940-1958]
13---416---James McGRORY from 16 years [1922-1938]
14---411---Hugo SÁNCHEZ from 21 years [1976-1997]
15---411---Ferenc SZUSZA from 21 years [1940-1961]
16---410---Jimmy GREAVES from 14 years [1957-1971]
17---402---Johan CRUIJFF from 20 years [1964-1984]*
18---393---Dr. György SÁROSI from 18 years [1930-1948]
19---388---Hans KRANKL from 18 years [1970-1988]
20---388---Ferenc BENE from 19 years [1961-1978 & 1981-1982]

Note: Ferenc Puskás' total lacks goals scored in the Hungarian Cup. Pelé's total additionally includes goals from several tournaments unique to Brazil.
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i noticed u left off harry kewell why did someone do something to shameful so cruel

jessicaone60 · Nov 19, 2004

top ten teams of 2004

liverpool
brazil
australia
barcelona
manchester utd
newcastle
manchester city
france
spain
usa

lanman · Nov 19, 2004

11Best said:

137 goals in 160 games for chelsea.
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That's his league record which is included in the original total. I was looking for his record in cup competitions.

Gregoriak · Nov 19, 2004

lanman said:

Looked into this a bit and found that Greaves scored 22 or 32 FA Cup goals (two sites, two conflicting numbers), 5 League Cup goals and 9 European goals for Spurs. I couldn't find his Chelsea stats anywhere and he only scored in the League for West Ham. I don't know if he played any cup games in for Milan in his short time there.

The National Football Museum has Greaves with a career total of 491 goals. I imagine this probably includes his goals for England under-23's and other representative games as it would leave him with around 50 goals to find from his cup games with Chelsea and Milan (highly unlikely).

Greaves scored on his debut for every club he played for and also for England at both under-23 and full levels.

On a lighter note, he played for England against Brazil in the 1962 World Cup quarterfinal, which was interupted by a dog on the pitch. Greaves caught the dog and was promptly urinated on by it as he carried it off. Garrincha found the incident so funny he took the dog home with him after the game and kept it as a pet.
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Let`s assume he scored 32 FA Cup goals, plus the other 14 you found, his total rises from 410 to 456, which assures him a place in the top 10 (so far).

Greaves' average total per season rises from 29.3 to 32.6! This places him at third place behind Müller and Pelé.

That story about the dog must be one of the funniest World Cup anecdotes I ever heard of, probably the funniest! Thanks for sharing.

Gregoriak · Nov 19, 2004

persiantiger said:

I dunno about league goals but if we are talking about national goals it has to be Ali daie hands down.

Just got named the world's top scorer of 2004 at the age of 37.

Iran's Daie is the only man to have scored more than 100 national goals with 102 goals. The closest to daie's record is puskas with 83 or 87 not sure. Pele is 3rd with 78.

I don't care if most of his goals where against crappy teams, the fact is the man is a finisher, if the teams were so crappy how come no one else in the region and in the world could score on those teams like daie. Not many players can for example score 4 goals against a team like korea in 1 game. The amazing thing about daie is he just started playing soccer when he was 24! His first national game was in 93, so he scored these many goals in just 11 years.
Go sultan daie, 100+ and counting
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How many goals did he score in competitive league football? And how many times did he score in Cup competitions?

Just had a look against which teams he scored mostly against (apart from the 4 against S Korea):

5 goals against Sri Lanka in Tehran.
4 goals against Nepal in Tehran.
4 goals against Guam in Tabriz.
3 goals against Lebanon in Tehran.

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