dissapeared 20'x30' US Flag

Here it was on that day:

 

If you're going to be a dick about it then blow it out yer pie hole.

 

This flag came in a box and was shipped through someone at US soccer I believe. After the game it was returned to the same box and taken away again by someone at US soccer. Section 8, to my knowledge, is not and has not been in possession of this flag since the day of the friendly. We were glad to pack it up and pass it back to US soccer but beyond that there isn't much we can do. Check with US soccer and see if they stowed it someplace. We were happy to do our part for the Nats and we did so with professionalism and courtesy for all US supporters. I'm sorry that your flag was lost but it was not because of irresponsibility on Section 8's part. Please contact the same person that you went through when you sent it. That person is responsible for the flag, whoever it was.

 

I think the passing around of our big flags from city to city is one of the great traditions of US soccer that we've been developing over the past few years. C'mon Chicago. Find it.

 

all well and good but as far as I know there was no Sammer presence at this game at all. At least none that assisted in the set up and take down of any of the Tifo used at this match. Find the sammer contact if that's the way it's done but Section 8 was not in charge of the shipping of the flag to or from chicago. Find the Chicago chapter of Sams army if it makes you feel better but I personally folded the flag up put it in a box and watched a man in a suit from US soccer take it off the field.
So far in the past three posts you have been nothing but rude and threatening, which is fine by me. If you want to come off as a jackass but I'm just telling you what happened to your flag. You can choose to do whatever you want with that information.

 

Your combatitive attitude is absolutely unnecessary, is the reason for the replies you are recieving, and poorly represents Sam's Army.

 

You are bit of a tosser. I'm trying to help you despite your negative, insulting attitude. The flag was put back in the box it came in and handed back to the same people who brought it. Read the last sentance a few more times if you need to. And try not to act like such a jacknut. If you know who it was shipped to then you know who to contact DIRECTLY about it. Stop trying to place blame on people you don't even know. If you care about the flag you might consider finding someone else involved to speak on it's behalf because your social skills for such an endeavour are severly lacking.

 

I haven't normally posted of late on bigsoccer, and I usually browse the threads, but this one bothers me. Chicago needs to step up and find the flag! The onus here is on the Section 8 group (the ones who packaged the flag) and that person who was the US Soccer contact ( the carrier of the flag) . Why don't you help out JJay and give us a description on the man in the suit.... yes, it is part of your responsibility since you took the care to repackage the box. Lets remain calm and civil, but the irresponsibility with either Section 8 or that "us soccer contact" irks me a bit.

 

Brushes Sand, you've come to our boards to accuse section 8 members of stealing, and you are suprised when we don't trip over ourselves trying to be as pleasent as possible. You yourself said that the care and handling of the flag was the responsibility of the local Sam's Army chapter. I'm a member of section 8, and to be honest, I don't believe I've ever met a local Sam's Army member at a Fire game. Don't you guys have a way of contacting each other? Section 8 is not a US National team supporter's group. It's a Chicago Fire supporter's group. Any help that was given from Section 8 members was purely out of kindness on their parts. If jjayg says that he packaged the flag, and that it was taken from the field by the very same US Soccer people that dropped it off, then that's what happened. He's not some scumbag trying to steal your precious flag.

To me, this seems like an odd situation considering that I spoke to a couple guys that said they were from Sam's Army. They were NOT from Chicago, and to my knowledge, they did not help set up the tifo and banners. I know because we spent severals hours setting everything up.

Please stop being such an ***hole.

 

I believe it might have been Mike Squire. I can't really remember. There was a female there as well who I also don't remember. I would appreciate it if all involved would stop blaming Section 8. Marcin, myself and several others put many, many hours of work into that friendly and we were not irresponsible in any way, shape or form. I, personally, was never tasked with any responsibility for the flag. I have no idea who was. If the flag had been sent to me it would have been immediately returned BY ME. Whoever received the flag is responsible for returning the flag. Not Section 8 or the City of Chicago. I was involved in the clean up of section 8 following the game against New England as I am after every Fire game and the flag was there and the box was there and there was no Sams Army representative and there was no 'contact' taking responsibility for the flag. Rather then leave it on the ground in the stands of soldier field I folded it up with the help of someone from US soccer (I think it might have been Mike) and put it in the box and that person left with the flag. That is the last I saw of it. I offer these facts freely with great hope that it will be tracked down and sent on to whereever it needs to go but all this accusing this person and that person and 'signs of deception' crap needs to stop. I've given you ever fact I know with regards to the flag. If somebody else knows something else I hope they will speak up but my guess is that every time this flag has traveled someplace someONE has been responsible for it and whoever that someONE was in this case still is. Hopefully whoever sent it to Chicago to begin with will take the responsibility of contacting that person and finding out if and how that person fullfilled their responsibility in this regard.

 

Scratch that statement. They definately weren't from Chicago, but they did help set up the tifo. I remember seeing them outside of the stadium before we set up. I didn't get their names, but one was an over weight African-American(no insult there, as he was a very nice guy) from, if I remember correctly, Dallas. I may be wrong about the Dallas part, so if anyone remembers seeing or speaking to one or both of these guys, feel free to speak up. Didn't see them after the game though.

That's all I've got.

 

All the non-chicago people that helped us with the Tifo before the game were part of a group that came to the game with me. There was about 18 of them and most of them I put up in my house. The guy you are talking about was Bison from DC. None of them had anything to do with Sams Army activities or the Flag. They were helping set up Tifo on my behalf.

BS, do you read? Just curious.

 

Ya think?
You sure posting inflamatory threats and accusations on an open message board isn't the better way to go?

 

USA-Poland. I'd imagine the length of time between then and now is part of the reason this is coming up on BS rather than through personal channels. It's possible (likely?) that the personal channels have been exhausted.

 

Geez, still another reason to think that Sams Army is a bunch of prissy choads.
I really do hope you find the flag, but don't come on a Fire board hurling accusations and expect all of us to be polite and subject to your tone.
Handle this through emails and phone calls. DUH.
Bad mouthing S8C isn't going to get you anywhere.

As for throwing out bile about the quality and maturity of Chicago? F U my man.

eddieba26- The flag was used at the USA v Poland freindly this summer. Where, in the Polish end, many a joke were made at the yuppie dork Sammers and their brand of "support".

 

BS, your posts in this thread have had a rather nasty tone. I hope that, after a good night of sleep, you can re-read your posts and realize that. For instance, when you say "Somewhere, somehow, someone you know "misplaced" the 20'x30' "baby-ass" US Flag", by surrounding the word misplaced with parenthesis, you are no doubt implying that we stole your flag. That is an offensive accusation.

On to my next point,

[Yelling happily] Hey! [/Yelling happily]

That would be a fantastic place to start. You have a direct line of contact with the people who should know where this flag is located. My question to you is, with this information at your fingertips, why would you post such demands as "Find Kirwan's flag, or come up with the cash to replace it"? I can understand you saying this to the person that you know recieved the flag, but to post it on an internet messege board doesn't really make sense to me.

You say things like "The contradictions in your post are frightening", and then quote a post that contains ZERO contradictions. You make a point to mention that this flag is "property of the North Jersey Brigade and Ed Kirwan", then snidely remark to jjayg that "By the way, it's not "MY" flag. It's "OUR" flag, us, you, me, all fans of US Soccer". You say "If this thread remains unstickied, and requires manual bumping, that will be interpreted as a sign of deception by those who seek only to locate the flag for the upcoming Hex". So if this thread isn't given top priority by people who have absolutely nothing to do with your predicament, it means that those people are deceaving you in order to steal your flag? You've been nothing but nasty so far in this thread, and that needs to stop.

I wish your friend the best of luck in retreaving his lost flag, and I can appreciate you representing him here, but the manner in which you have conducted youself has represented him, and your organization, very poorly.