Who's the greatest coach of all-time? I reckon Pozzo is the best. No other coach has won 2 World Cups in a row.
Herbert Chapman, Bill Nicholson, Jock Stein, Hellenio Herrera, Ernst Happel, Bob Paisley, Bill Shankly, Brian Clough, Munoz, Fergie, Johan Cruyff, Giovanni Trappatoni, Fabio Capello, Marcello Lippi.
On national teams maybe Helmut Schön. WC 1966: 2nd WC 1970: 3rd EC 1972: 1st WC 1974: 1st EC 1976: 2nd
the coach who took Bolivia to the world cup in 1994 that in itself is an accomplisment considering we beat Brazil and Uruguay to get in
Alex Ferguson has to be in there somewhere, the man's acheivement's even before he went ton Man Utd were incredible. The fact that he took a mid-table side to one of te most successfull and biggest club in the wordl cannot be overlooked.
That is a stupid question because you have to deal with different eras. Pre-WWII or Post-WWII? The 70's? The 80's? The 60's? The 1890's? You must specify who was the best coach of a particular era.
Zagallo's job was a piece of piss though. He had arguably the most talented group of individuals ever to pay the game.
You can rank overall. You're probably stuck so I'll help you. 1920s: Hugo Meisl (also highly-rated in the 30s) 1930s: Vittorio Pozzo (the greatest) 1950s: Gustav Sebes 1960s: Helenio Hererra 1970s: Rinus Michels 1980s: Valeri Lobanovski (highly underrated) 1990s: Marcello Lippi
Bob Paisley has to be in the top five. Won six league titles and three (count 'em) European Cups and he never bought big. That's three European Cups, folks...
You don't think that's the only time he ever coached a team do you? I won't even get into how much he changed the team from what João Saldanha had during the qualifiers.
Arrigo Sacchi needs to be mentioned here. Besides managing one of the greatest clubs sides ever in the late 80's/early 90's he also produced many good coaches. Almost the whole AC Milan squad that he managed have become good managers in their own right. Capello, Ancelotti, Van Basten, Rijkaard, Gullit, Tassotti, Baresi, Donadoni, etc. I suspect there will be some more who turn into good coaches(e.g. Maldini, Costacurta) in the near future.
He was a great coach at AC Milan but he wouldn't be a no 1 considering his record with Italy. Italy's performance was based more on Baggio's skills than on Sacchi's tactics.
Good point. At the tornament it did look like a piece of cake but after the stupidity of Saldanha (dropping Pele among others), Zagallo did well to get all the good players back just before the tornament started. If Saldanha stayed on, they would have sent a crap team like in 1966, 74 and 78.
Of course not, but that is what people are clearly basing it on. In my opinion Zagallo has no place in a thread like this.
Zagallo definitely belongs here as he is one of the greatest coaches of all time. No other coach has been successful at the highest level in football for over thirty years. In addition, forming a winning team out of 6-7 number 10s requires brilliance. Having great players in the team does not necessarily imply that the job of the coach is rendered insignificant. Tele Santana, Rinus Michels and the last two coaches of Real Madrid provide the necessary evidence for it. These coaches are good but to be the greatest one has to be a winner at the highest level. Hence, Zagallo followed by Pozzo should be named as the greatest coaches of all time. If Scolari wins another international tournament, he sould be mentioned along with Zagallo and Pozzo as football's greatest.
Absolutely correct. It's one thing to coach a team put together at almost unlimited cost or when you can have the pick of all the players from a great footballing country like Brazil, Italy or Germany. Clough took a 2nd division provivincial club, (Derby), in England and got them promoted into the English top flight. He then won the EPL equivalent with them in the next season having just been promoted. They got to the semi-finals of the EUFA cup in 1973. He then fell out with his directors, (mainly because he called them 'a bunch of nobodies' if memory serves), and resigned as manager of Derby at the end of 1973. He joined Nottingham Nottingham Forest, another 2nd division, provincial club in January 1975, are promoted (again), in 1977, winning the League Cup and the EPL equivalent in 1978. He then took them to 2 CL wins in succession the following 2 years. For those still thinking that this manager or that manager is better because they've won this cup or that cup ask yourself 2 questions. 1. Can I name 3 or more players from the teams of the manager I think is the best ever. 2. Can I name 3 or more players from the Nottingham Forest side that won the EPL and 2 successive CL finals. Frankly, can you think of one. THAT'S the difference. Almost any idiot can manage a team of stars to win a cup every so often but we're not talking about a team of stars; we're talking about a team... in fact 2 TEAMS... which almost nobody, (including English football supporters), can remember the names of. Derby and Nottingham Forest are presently lying 11th and 22nd in Div 2 or 'The Championship' as it's now called. That's probably about right for a team like them. That's about where they were when he found them. And if you're still not convinced then listen to the words of the great man himself when seaking about his own abilities... "I wouldn't say I was the best manager in the business. But I was in the top one"
I wouldn't rank Sebes as the greatest Hungarian coach - that would be Bela Guttman - successful as manager or coach in Hungary, Portugal, Brazil, Uruguay and Belgium (I believe he won Championships in four different countries). One of the pioneers of 4-2-4 (devised by Marton Bukovi - refined by Guttman), he brought the formation to South America and the wider world in general, but was not afraid to revert to the W-M as with Benfica as situations required.
Another great german clubteam coach: Udo Lattek Champions League: 1st: 1974 with Bayern Munich 2nd: 1977 with Borussia Mönchengladbach 2nd: 1987 with Bayern Munich European Cup Winners Cup: 1st 1982 with CF Barcelona UEFA Cup: 1st 1979 with Borussia Mönchengladbach 6 x German Bundesliga Champion with Bayern 2 x German Bundesliga Champion with Borussia Mönchengladbach 3 x German Cup Winner with Bayern