Why the USSF doesnt get a "Big Name" Nt coach?

You're certainly doing your best to further that impression.

 

Re: Bruce

I wouldn't call Sven a Big Name coach. I know he had a great run at the World Cup, but he isn't known like Scolari or even Bruce Arena .

VS, Arena is know by football officials, the media and many supporters around the world. That is Big Name.

Now if we are talking about managers that win - than Arena, SVE, Voller, and others that haven't won a Cup as an international manager aren't Big Name.

Arena took over a program in the same sorry state as England was when Sven took over. Much like Aguirre did as well. All three have won domestic titles (IIRC, Aguirre has) and have performed fantastic on the international stage. They are all Big Name managers.

 

History lesson for the newbies...

...which the rest of you can ignore if you like...

In early 1995, after the USSF released Bora as head coach, the federation made a large search for a "big name" head coach...

The job was offered to Carlos Quieroz... he turned it down...

The job was then offered to Carlos Alberto Parriera...he turned it down (and the soccer gods got their revenge a few years later when CAP was head coach of the RotMasters )...

Finally, in an act of desparation, they offered the job to...interim coach Steve Sampson.

***Load Bluecat SoundBite #346***

I am convinced that, for the concievable future, any foreign coach hired by the US would bolt the second Benfica, Parma, 1860 Munich, or Middlesborough waved around their significantly fatter checkbooks in said coach's direction.

 

Re: History lesson for the newbies...

I don't think any big name foreign coach would take the US job. Really, do they want to coach in a place where there's relatively no glory, no glamour, no profile? And that coach would have a lot of hard work to do, especially scouting out talent.

 

we already have a successful coach who knows the US players and US system. He coached against Perreira and Bora in MLS and kicked their asses around the yard. The US Fed would have to be totally insane to go get another coach of any sort.

 

Re: Re: History lesson for the newbies...

And a LOT less money.

MONEY.

BA supposedly make $500K a year. Nice work if you can get it.

Except if you're sven goran, where you make, oh I don't know, $2 to $3 million a year??

All the posters who said, BEFORE the world cup, "Gee, let's get Cruyff (assuming you could pay his CARDIOLOGIST's salary as well as his), or some other guy who speaks with accent.."

Please.

This thread is entitield "Why doesn't the USSF get a "Big Name" NT coach?"

Why don't the moderators close ANY thread related to getting a "big time" coach to replace BA??

Please?????

 

Preston North End

I wouldn't call Sven a Big Name coach. I know he had a great run at the World Cup, but he isn't known like Scolari or even Bruce Arena.

So Bruces MLS Cups and Collegiate Championships can compare to Gorans track record:

1979: Wins Swedish Cup.
1981: Wins Swedish title.
1982: Wins Swedish Cup.
1982: Quits Gothenburg to join Benfica.
1983: Wins Portuguese championship and domestic cup, loses in final of the UEFA Cup to Anderlecht.
1984: Wins Portuguese championship
1984: Appointed manager of Roma
1986: Wins Italian Cup
1987: Appointed as manager of Fiorentina
1989: Rejoins Benfica.
1990: Runner-up in European Cup final, losing 1-0 to AC Milan
1991: Wins Portuguese championship
1992: Appointed as manager of Sampdoria
1994: Wins Italian Cup
1997: Appointed as manager of Lazio
1998: Wins Italian Cup and Italian Super Cup
1999: Wins European Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Super Cup
2000: Wins Italian Serie A title and Italian Cup
2001: Appointed England manager

What about Scolari:

I Division 2000 Cruzeiro
Brazilian Champions' Cup 2000 Cruzeiro
I Division/San Paolo 2000 Palmeiras

International cup Curriculum
Libertadores Cup 2001 Cruzeiro
Mercosur Cup 2000 Cruzeiro
Fifa World Cup 2002

VS, Arena is know by football officials, the media and many supporters around the world. That is Big Name.

I doubt he is recognized as Scolari or Sven. Remeber when a team loses its the coach fault and when it wins it the players, i bet most portuguese still dont know who Bruce is. I know they will remember Donovan and McHaead but Bruce pshhhh

Arena took over a program in the same sorry state as England was when Sven took over.

What Sorry state !?!? Finishing Last in the World Cup, this is the TFC were talking bout More than half the countrys have never even played in a WC.


Much like Aguirre did as well.

This has more to do with Politrix than football. Still i wouldnt even put Aguirres name up there with the Big Named Coaches.


All three have won domestic titles (IIRC, Aguirre has) and have performed fantastic on the international stage. They are all Big Name managers.


Performing fantastic (Arena/Aguirre) is not the same as winning a Cup at the International Stage

 

Enough said! Long live the Bruce!

 

all that matters is that the team qualified. Go look at the rosters for some of our qualifiers (Mexico City is a great example) and see the teams he used, and still qualified with a game in hand.

Brazil barely qualified too. Argentina DOMINATED South America. Holland didn't even qualify and Portugal qualified first. Do I need to go on?

 

Only someone new to big soccer would use that type of statement as proof.

Trust me newbie, the people on here know soccer. Aside from all the people who don't know anything about soccer and then come to big soccer and post 10 times a day to talk about something they don't know about.

 

In deference to So Fla Metro and Mr Keller, who have made the point so well already, I can only think to add:

"Hey, our National program is a great success - let's fire the coach"

Thank you.

 

mexico

It doesn't matter who they hire.

You can't polish a turd.

 

fire bob.

 

WTF is up with the necroposts?

Neg repped and reported.