Net Gain/Loss on transfer fees for Chelsea [01,02,03,04,05]

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by pc4th, Nov 18, 2005.

  1. pc4th

    pc4th New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    North Poll
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To create a database for Europe's elite teams (Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, AC Milan etc..), I need your input since you know it a lot better than I am. Feel free to go later than 01, but I only found numbers from 2001-2005 season.

    I am not 100% sure if the info is correct. That's why I need your help. Also, some numbers are not disclosed, which would require an estimate. Anyway, here's what I have found.

    http://www.footballrumours.info/transfers/cbc2005/league1.html
    2005

    Total IN: 56.51
    Total OUT: 6.82
    Net Loss: 49.69 million pounds


    2004
    Total IN: 89.525
    Total OUT: 17.01
    Net loss: 72.515 million pounds

    2003


    total IN 115.77
    Total OUT: 0

    Net loss: 115.77 million pounds
     
  2. pc4th

    pc4th New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    North Poll
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2002

    IN

    Total in: 0
    total out: 1

    Net gain: 1 million pounds


    2001
    Net loss: 6.5 million pounds
     
  3. Montana_Soccer

    Montana_Soccer New Member

    Oct 23, 2005
    Missoula, MT
    Looks like we've spent some money....
     
  4. pc4th

    pc4th New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    North Poll
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Total loss over 5 years on transfer fees: 243.475 million pounds x 1.7198 rate = $418.7 million.

    On average, Chelsea lost $83.7 million per year on transfer fees.
     
  5. Walter3000

    Walter3000 Member+

    Apr 8, 2004
    gainesville, Florida
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you're going to post something, you could have at least gotten the figures right.
     
  6. pc4th

    pc4th New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    North Poll
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't get paid to double check my figure. Sorry. But maybe you can do that for me. I would appreciate it.

    Average loss per year (from 2001 to 2005) from transfer fees

    Chelsea: $83.7 million a year
    Real Madrid: $41.67 million a year
    Manchester United: $36 million a year
    Barcelona: $25 million a year
    AC Milan: $22 million a year
    Liverpool: $15.2 million a year
    Juventus: $15 million a year
    Arsenal: $3 million a year
    Inter Milan: $3 million a year


    Add 3.5 million pounds to Chelsea's 2005 transfer with the new signing of this 16 years old.
     
  7. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    Good players don't come cheap!

    The club is currently looking to lock up young talent before they become multi-million transfers.
     
  8. BridgeMonkee

    BridgeMonkee BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 25, 2002
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I find that hard to believe. . .

    I think you may want to check all your figures as they seem way off to me
     
  9. Walter3000

    Walter3000 Member+

    Apr 8, 2004
    gainesville, Florida
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do not get paid to help people complete their mindless tasks.
     
  10. sanariot

    sanariot Member

    Nov 19, 2001
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That seems pretty arrogant to say for someone that's supposedly here for "help"...

    Get the F outta here...
     
  11. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    This lad had good intentions, he started threads similar to this in many other fora.

    However, if it turns into a slagging thread, I'll bin it tomorrow.

    Take it at face value, as an information request.

    Carry on.
     
  12. pc4th

    pc4th New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    North Poll
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Inter Milan: $3 million a year

    the number that surprised me more when I did the calculation was Arsenal. But if you want to check, go to the following threads.

    Chelsea: $83.7 million a year
    Real Madrid: $41.67 million a year
    Manchester United: $36 million a year
    Barcelona: $25 million a year
    AC Milan: $22 million a year
    Liverpool: $15.2 million a year
    Juventus: $15 million a year
    Arsenal: $3 million a year
    Inter Milan: $3 million a year


    Too see the break-down on each year and on each player, go to these threads.

    Liverpool
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268783

    Arsenal
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6756316#post6756316

    Chelsea
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6756302#post6756302

    Manchester United
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268343

    REal Madrid:
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268351

    Barcelona:
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268585

    AC Milan:
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268780

    Inter Milan:
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268782
     
  13. pc4th

    pc4th New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    North Poll
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was sacrasm. I didn't really ask for help. He said my figure was wrong, I am asking him to 'prove it' by posting the 'right' figure.

    It would have been nicer if he would have said "Oh, your figure for the year 2003 was wrong. It should be 40 million instead of 50 milliion." And he probably got a thank-you from me.

    Be nice to someone and that person will be nice right back.
     
  14. sanariot

    sanariot Member

    Nov 19, 2001
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Will do, Clan...but he has Forssell being down as transferred in 2004, not 2005, comes on here for help, and flippantly states that he doesn't "get paid to double check my figure" when that figure is challenged by another Chelsea board regular whose knowledge he's supposedly seeking in the first place...
     
  15. sanariot

    sanariot Member

    Nov 19, 2001
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you're basically here to take the piss, then?

    It would have been nicer if you'd said to me "I'm just talking out of my arse" and then taken the time to fart to prove it...

    Why don't you be nice to me and get the fcuk off this board?
     
  16. sstarch1

    sstarch1 Member

    Jan 25, 2005
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    I dont think this guy is being a jerk or anything, no reason to take offense.
     
  17. sanariot

    sanariot Member

    Nov 19, 2001
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK, my bad...
     
  18. pc4th

    pc4th New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    North Poll
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I only ask for help on the 'undisclosed number' to make the final number more accurate. I have no knowledge of Chelsea's transfers. I didn't even look at them. Just look at the $ number and add them up. All I care about is the final number (the net loss or net gain).

    How should I know that Forsell was transferred in 2004 and not 2005? All I did was copy and paste the number from that football statistics website. I never see the name Forsell until you typed it above.

    If someone tells you to 'get a figure' right, you would want to know 'what figure, what year, where did I make my mistake.' How am I suppose to correct something if I don't where to start?

    The only correction I could do is that if my math is wrong. If a player has a 10 million transfer and I copy and paste from that website as 20 million, he could have point it out to me.

    I don't know what figures is right and not right. I have no knowledge of Chelsea or their players. All I posted was the number I got from that football website.

    Would have been nice to say "Oh, you got that figure wrong because....." and I will change it on my Excel Sheet.
     
  19. BridgeMonkee

    BridgeMonkee BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 25, 2002
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Inter is still more of a surprise to me. May I suggest that you check your research by finding another source for all your information (that football website). Only using one source is limited and inaccurate. Your figures are wrong and it is up to you to find out where you have gone wrong. That is IF you are truly interested in finding out what the real figures are. The information is out there you just have to put in some effort.
     
  20. BridgeMonkee

    BridgeMonkee BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 25, 2002
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    no, he is just lazy and a little dim
     
  21. BridgeMonkee

    BridgeMonkee BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 25, 2002
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    your spreadsheet is a crock...you have to include spending on wages otherwise you are not really painting a true picture (Inter have spent over 1 billion pounds sterling over 10 years on wages/players) also you have to use at least more than one source for your 'information'

    here is another site, which will give you some different figures
    http://www.soccerbase.com/transfers_by_team.sd?teamid=1724
    even then you will need to find even more other sources and databases to get better information
    you may have to go through each player at each club to get (i) the true transfer fee and (ii) the wages

    so far your figures are virtually meaningless
     
  22. babyfood

    babyfood New Member

    Feb 19, 2005
    Vancouver, Canada
    we are not a selling club anyways.. not surprised to see us at the top of this ranking.. as RA era starts, Ranieri got to spend on Veron(!!), Crespo, Parker..etc and then he got fired.. Jose came in and brought his mates from Porto... not to mention the Chelsea tax on Drogba and Essien..
     

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