Domestic Titles since '96

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  1. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    '96 MLS Supporters' Shield: Tampa Bay Mutiny
    '96 MLS Cup: D.C. United
    '96 U.S. Open Cup: D.C. United

    '97 MLS Supporters' Shield: D.C. United
    '97 MLS Cup: D.C. United
    '97 U.S. Open Cup: Dallas Burn

    '98 MLS Supporters' Shield: L.A. Galaxy
    '98 MLS Cup: Chicago Fire
    '98 U.S. Open Cup: Chicago Fire

    '99 MLS Supporters' Shield: D.C. United
    '99 MLS Cup: D.C. United
    '99 U.S. Open Cup: Rochester Raging Rhinos

    '00 MLS Supporters' Shield: K.C. Wizards
    '00 MLS Cup: K.C. Wizards
    '00 U.S. Open Cup: Chicago Fire

    '01 MLS Supporters' Shield: Miami Fusion
    '01 MLS Cup: San Jose Earthquakes
    '01 U.S. Open Cup: L.A. Galaxy

    '02 MLS Supporters' Shield: L.A. Galaxy
    '02 MLS Cup: L.A. Galaxy
    '02 U.S. Open Cup: Columbus Crew

    '03 MLS Supporters' Shield: Chicago Fire
    '03 MLS Cup: San Jose Earthquakes
    '03 U.S. Open Cup: Chicago Fire

    '04 MLS Supporters' Shield: Columbus Crew
    '04 MLS Cup:
    '04 U.S. Open Cup: K.C. Wizards

    Titles, by team
    D.C. United: 6
    Chicago Fire: 5
    L.A. Galaxy: 4
    K.C. Wizards: 3
    San Jose Earthquakes: 2
    Columbus Crew: 2
    Dallas Burn: 1
    Miami Fusion: 1
    Tampa Bay Mutiny: 1
    Rochester Raging Rhinos: 1 (A-League)



    MLS Supporters' Shields, by team
    D.C. United: 2
    L.A. Galaxy: 2
    Chicago Fire: 1
    Miami Fusion: 1
    K.C. Wizards: 1
    Tampa Bay Mutiny: 1
    Columbus Crew: 1

    MLS Cup, by team
    D.C. United: 3
    San Jose Earthquakes: 2
    Chicago Fire: 1
    K.C. Wizards: 1
    L.A. Galaxy: 1

    U.S. Open Cup, by team
    Chicago Fire: 3
    D.C. United: 1
    L.A. Galaxy: 1
    Dallas Burn: 1
    Rochester Raging Rhinos: 1 (A-League)
    Columbus Crew: 1
    K.C. Wizards: 1

    Teams with no titles (Finals played in)
    New England Revolution ('01 U.S. Open Cup, '02 MLS Cup)
    Colorado Rapids ('97 MLS Cup, '99 U.S. Open Cup)
    MetroStars ('03 U.S. Open Cup)
     
  2. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    for those wondering

    Jesse Marsch has the most titles:
    '96 MLS Cup
    '96 U.S. Open Cup
    '97 MLS Supporters' Shield
    '97 MLS Cup
    '98 MLS Cup
    '98 U.S. Open Cup
    '00 U.S. Open Cup
    '03 MLS Supporters' Shield
    '03 U.S. Open Cup

    9 total... 3 MLS Cups, 4 Open Cups, 2 Shields


    Jeff Agoos has the second most and most MLS Cups"
    '96 MLS Cup
    '96 U.S. Open Cup
    '97 MLS Supporters' Shield
    '97 MLS Cup
    '99 MLS Supporters' Shield
    '99 MLS Cup
    '01 MLS Cup
    '03 MLS Cup

    8 total.... 5 MLS Cups, 1 Open Cup, and 2 Shields
     
  3. Napoli_Ultra

    Napoli_Ultra Member

    Jun 9, 1999
    Lorton VA
    Club:
    DC United
    good info, thanks.
     
  4. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And Columbus' Supporters' Shield this year assures us another year where we have no winner of the mythical domestic treble/triple.
     
  5. dncm

    dncm Member+

    Apr 22, 2003
    Boston
    I don't think this has any value, just interesting that 2001 was the only year that 1 team did not win 2 of the 3. Of course 2004 could be the same situation.
     
  6. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if Jesse Marsch has the most Open Cups for a player in the history of the tournament...
     
  7. churchill2000

    churchill2000 3x MLS Cup Champions

    Jul 12, 2004
    Monde Virtuel
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    What up? What about the CONCACAF Champs Cup? Or how about the Inter-American Cup?
    And if you count all championships, the Metrostars won La Manga Cup during the 04' offseason, so the only teams without a championship are the Revolution and Rapids.
     
  8. writered21

    writered21 Member+

    Jul 14, 2001
    Middle of the Road
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    See thread title.
     
  9. churchill2000

    churchill2000 3x MLS Cup Champions

    Jul 12, 2004
    Monde Virtuel
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy

    Reread my post, concacaf champs cup and interamerican cup are domestic cups, its just that only two teams have won the ccc, and one team has won the interamerican.
    And if you read further I stated if you want to count all championships, then you are forgetting the Metros, but you obviously jumped the gun.
     
  10. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    What?

    Look up the word "domestic." in a dictionary.
     
  11. writered21

    writered21 Member+

    Jul 14, 2001
    Middle of the Road
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really?

    The CCC and I-A Cup are/were events held between club teams from different countries.

    The thread starter isn't counting titles won by American teams - he's counting trophies won in U.S. competitions - MLS Cup, Sup. Shield, Open Cup.
     
  12. mcontento

    mcontento Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Catalina Wine Mixer
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering Bethlehem Steel won it 4 times from 1915-1919, and Ukrainian Nationals won it 4 times from 1960-1966, I'd say there's a good chance there are many 4 time champions. Maybe even the Fall River, Mass team who won it 4 times in 8 years could have had one or two guys that played on all the championship teams.
     
  13. perctarit

    perctarit Member

    Jan 8, 2002
    Ward 6
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only four winners of the Shield have also won the MLS Cup in the same year, so regular season sucess doesn't seem to correlate especially strongly with playoff success. That doesn't augur particularly well for Columbus this year.

    perc
     
  14. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Talk about "glass half empty."

    50% is a pretty good average if you ask me.
     
  15. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except that 12 of the previous 16 MLS Cup finalists won their division that year, and I would think winning a division title makes for a successful regular season, and making the final can be construed as a successful playoff run.
     
  16. perctarit

    perctarit Member

    Jan 8, 2002
    Ward 6
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It looks to be simply average actually. I went back and looked at the NBA and NHL over the past eight years and found this:

    NBA (year/champion/best record)
    2003-2004 - Detroit/Indiana
    2002-2003 - San Antonio/San Antonio and Dallas
    2001-2002 - Los Angeles Lakers/Sacramento
    2000-2001 - Los Angeles Lakers/San Antonio
    1999-2000 - Los Angeles Lakers/Los Angeles Lakers
    1998-1999 - San Antonio/San Antonio and Utah
    1997-1998 - Chicago/Chicago and Utah
    1996-1997 - Chicago/Chicago

    NHL (year/champion/most points)
    2004 - Tampa/Detroit
    2003 - New Jersey/Detroit
    2002 - Detroit/Detroit
    2001 - Colorado/Colorado
    2000 - New Jersey/St. Louis
    1999 - Dallas/Dallas
    1998 - Detroit/Dallas
    1997 - Detroit/Colorado

    That's five of eight over that period in the NBA and and three of eight in the NHL.

    Admittedly these are very small samples. But it suggests the MLS run fairly well in line with the other leagues in this regard.

    perc
     
  17. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Good stuff.

    Richie Williams should get a shout out, too. He has seven.

    Three MLS Cups (96, 97, 99), two Shields (97, 99) and two Open Cups (95, 96). The catch here is that he won his first Open Cup the year before MLS started as a member of the Richmond Kickers.

    Also on that team was Brian Kamler, but he's "only" won five trophies - two MLS Cups (96-97), one Shield (97), and two Open Cups (95-96) and there are several players with at least five so that shouldn't get too much attention.
     
  18. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    The Metro also got one of these for just showing up:

    [​IMG]

    Sachin
     
  19. Crewmudgeon

    Crewmudgeon Member+

    Sep 3, 1999
    Crewdom
    Yes, but except for 2001 a team has won 2 trophies in each year. That bodes well for KC and Columbus.
     
  20. alliu23

    alliu23 I'm a Yank til I Die

    Jul 28, 2004
    Williamsport, PA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    its really hard to believe Metrostars don't have anything, I never realized that until now.
     
  21. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    That's not true... the did win the Eastern Conference regular season championship one year, were the Men of La Manga this past offseason and got the aforementioned partcipation ribbon.

    Oh yeah, I almost forgot... the won the Atlantic Cup last season too.

    Sachin
     

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