Serie-A Rankings: Legione Straniera 1980-87

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  1. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Guerin Sportivo magazine, one of the Italy's most famous sports magazine was first published in 1912. In its edition publicated on 1987 February 24; they made a special resume, called 66 Stranieri ai Raggi X doing a review for all foreign footballers who played in Serie-A, since the reopening of the league for non-italian players.

    The seasons covered were: from 1980-81 to 1986-87 (this last season partially)

    In these seasons, Serie-A has been formed by 16 clubs. Also for the two first seasons, only ONE foreign player was allowed to signing.
     
  2. Jaweirdo

    Jaweirdo Member+

    Aug 19, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Where are the rankings;)
     
  3. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Season 1980-81

    CLUB-----PLAYER-----ROLE-----COUNTRY-----GAMES-----AVG.
    Ascoli--------
    Avellino--Jorge JUARY--Forward----Brazil-----12-----6.56
    Bologna--ENEAS Camargo--Forward--Brazil----20-----5.95
    Brescia-------
    Cagliari-------
    Catanzaro----
    Como---------
    Fiorentina--Daniel BERTONI--Forward--Argentine--25--6.21
    Inter--Herbert PROHASKA--Midfielder--Austria----28---6.54
    Juventus--Liam BRADY--Midfielder--Rep.Ireland---28--6.57
    Napoli----Ruud KROL--Defender----Holland------29---6.92
    Perugia--Elio FORTUNATO--Forward--Argentine--12--5.62
    Pistoiese----Luis SILVIO----Forward----Brazil----6--5.45
    Roma---Roberto FALCAO---Midfielder---Brazil---25---6.81
    Torino--Michel VAN DE KORPUT--Defender--Holland--22--6.07
    Udinese--Herbert NEUMANN--Midfielder--West Germany--25--6.67
     
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  4. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Top 5: Season 1980-81

    1980-81
    Ruud KROL-------- 6.92
    Roberto FALCAO---6.81
    Herbert NEUMANN--6.67
    Liam BRADY--------6.57
    Jorge JUARY-------6.56
     
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  5. comme

    comme Moderator
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    Feb 21, 2003
    Thanks very much for this. Massively appreciated.

    Somebody rep this man for me, I need to spread it around.
     
  6. Estel

    Estel Member+

    May 5, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nice work Msioux, repped!
     
  7. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    You're welcome mate :D
    I'll hope post all seasons in a close time.

    BTW, the grade that i see on Guerin Sportivo were 4 (lower) and 8.5 (higher). I don't know what's the scale.
    I imagine from 1 to 10, but certainly it increases every 0.5 points, just like Netherlands league and actual Serie-A ratings.
     
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  8. schwuppe

    schwuppe Member+

    Sep 17, 2009
    Club:
    FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih
    Looking forward to see Diego's and Platini's ratings.

    (The highest I've seen over a full season is Messi @ 7.33 by Don Balon, but I think Guerin is stricter)


    EDIT: Hope this doesn't get this thread infested with Messi vs. XXY BS. :/
     
  9. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Guerin d'Oro

    Since the 1975-76 season the Italian weekly magazine "Guerin' Sportivo" gives awards to the best player, best trainer and best referee from Serie A. The awards are given based on the weekly ratings given by the Italian media during each week of the season. Any Serie A player, no matter their citizenship, is eligible.

    List of Winners
    Year Player (Club)

    1975/76 Claudio SALA (Torino)
    1976/77 Claudio SALA (Torino)
    1977/78 Roberto FILIPPI (Lanerossi Vicenza)
    1978/79 Roberto FILIPPI (Napoli)
    1979/80 Luciano CASTELLINI (Napoli)
    1980/81 Ruud KROL [Netherlands] (Napoli)
    1981/82 Franco CAUSIO (Udinese)
    1982/83 Pietro VIERCHOWOD (Roma)
    1983/84 Michel PLATINI [France] (Juventus)
    1984/85 Diego MARADONA [Argentina] (Napoli)
    1985/86 Renato ZACCARELLI (Torino)
    1986/87 Walter ZENGA (Internazionale)
    1987/88 Roberto MANCINI (Sampdoria)
    1988/89 Andreas BREHME [West Germany] (Internazionale)
    1989/90 Franco BARESI (Milan)
    1990/91 Roberto MANCINI (Sampdoria)
    1991/92 Frank RIJKAARD [Netherlands] (Milan)
    1992/93 Giuseppe SIGNORI (Lazio)
    1993/94 Daniele MASSARO (Milan)
    1994/95 PAULO Manuel Carvalho SOUSA [Portugal] (Juventus)
    1995/96 Enrico CHIESA (Sampdoria)
    1996/97 Gianluca PAGLIUCA (Internazionale)
    ---------Angelo PERUZZI (Juventus)
    ---------Lilian THURAM [France] (Parma)
    1997/98 Francesco TOTTI (Roma)
    1998/99 Matías ALMEYDA [Argentina] (Lazio)
    1999/00 Sebastien FREY [France] (Verona Hellas)
    2000/01 Roberto BAGGIO (Brescia)
    2001/02 Christian VIERI (Internazionale)
    2002/03 Pavel NEDVED [Czech Republic] (Juventus)
    2003/04 Francesco TOTTI (Roma)
    2004/05 Gianluca PAGLIUCA (Bologna)
    2005/06 Luca TONI (Fiorentina)
    2006/07 Adrian MUTU [Romania] (Fiorentina)
    2007/08 Mauro German CAMORANESI (Juventus)
    2008/09 Diego MILITO [Argentina] (Genoa)

    http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/italpoy.html
     
  10. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Season 1981-82

    CLUB-----PLAYER-----ROLE-----COUNTRY-----GAMES-----AVG.
    Ascoli--Francois ZAHOUI--Midfielder--C.Ivoire----8---6.37
    Avellino--Jorge JUARY--Forward----Brazil------22-----5.86
    Bologna--Herbert NEUMANN--Mid--W.Germany--20--6.05
    Cagliari-------
    Catanzaro--Viorel NASTASE--Forward--Romania---14---5.98
    Cesena--Walter SCHACHNER--Forward---Austria---28---6.45
    Como--Dieter MIRNEGG--Defender----Austria-----11-----6.02
    Fiorentina--Daniel BERTONI--Forward--Argentine---30---6.15
    Genoa--Rene VANDEREYCKEN--Midfielder--Belgium--25---6.47
    Inter--Herbert PROHASKA--Midfielder---Austria-----28---6.11
    Juventus--Liam BRADY--Midfielder--Rep.Ireland----29---6.22
    Milan---Joe JORDAN----Forward----Scotland-----22----5.46
    Napoli-----Ruud KROL---Defender-----Holland-----27----6.77
    Roma----Roberto FALCAO----Midfielder----Brazil----24---6.65
    Torino--Michel VAN DE KORPUT--Defender--Holland--23--6.15
    Udinese---ORLANDO Pereira---Defender----Brazil-----29---6.33
     
  11. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Top 5: Season 1981-82

    1981-82
    Ruud KROL---------- 6.77
    Roberto FALCAO-----6.65
    Rene VANDEREYCKEN--6.47
    Walter SCHACHNER----6.45
    ORLANDO Pereira------6.33

    Note: Franco CAUSIO was the best player of the season 81-82.
     
  12. Estel

    Estel Member+

    May 5, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Re: Top 5: Season 1981-82

    Msioux, looking at the list of Guerin d'Oro winners, I just noticed that Baggio is the winner in the 2000-01 season when he played only 25 Serie A games for Brescia (being out injured for three and a half months of the campaign).

    Considering this, am I correct in assuming that the magazine would give out the award to the player with the highest average rating, no matter the amount of games that the player has featured in, in that season? Or did the magazine have a required minimum games limit for a player to be eligible for the award?
     
  13. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Re: Top 5: Season 1981-82

    Estel, I'm not sure about your question :(

    But, i'll go for the last one (minimun games required). Since in your example, for the 2000-01 season there were played 34 games.

    So, in Baggio's stats, it would be 25/34 = 0.73
    Most magazines usually required as a minimun 0.67 of matches in a full season to nominated a player.
     
  14. Estel

    Estel Member+

    May 5, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Re: Top 5: Season 1981-82

    Ok Misoux. If you find any other players winning the Guerin d'Oro with a relatively less no. of games then then pls do highlight that as well, if possible.
     
  15. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Season 1982-83

    CLUB-----PLAYER-----ROLE-----COUNTRY-----GAMES-----AVG.
    Ascoli--Francois ZAHOUI--Midfielder--C.Ivoire-----3-----n.g
    Avellino--Jeronimo BARBADILLO--Forward---Perú---30---6.52
    Avellino--Soren SKOV--Forward----Denmark------16-----5.27
    Cagliari---Julio C. URIBE---Midfielder----Perú------20-----6.3
    Cagliari--Waldemar VICTORINO--Forward--Uruguay--10--5.01
    Catanzaro--Viorel NASTASE--Forward--Romania----9----5.68
    Cesena--Walter SCHACHNER--Forward---Austria---30---6.12
    Fiorentina--Daniel PASSARELLA--Defender--Argentine--27--6.38
    Fiorentina--Daniel BERTONI--Forward--Argentine---16---6.36
    Genoa--Rene VANDEREYCKEN--Midfielder--Belgium--3---5.5
    Genoa--Jan PETERS---Midfielder---Holland----19----6.57
    Inter--Hansi MÜLLER--Midfielder---W.Germany---22--6.23
    Inter---Jorge JUARY---Forward-----Brazil-------21----5.52
    Juventus--Zbigniew BONIEK--Midfielder--Poland---28--6.16
    Juventus--Michel PLATINI--Midfielder--France----30---6.61
    Napoli-----Ruud KROL---Defender-----Holland----30----6.37
    Napoli---Ramon DIAZ----Forward----Argentine----25----6.09
    Pisa----Klaus BERGGREEN---Midfielder----Denmark----29--6.44
    Pisa----Jorge CARABALLO---Midfielder----Uruguay----7---5.65
    Roma----Roberto FALCAO----Midfielder----Brazil----27---6.77
    Roma---Herbert PROHASKA---Midfielder---Austria----26---6.53
    Sampdoria---Liam BRADY---Midfielder---R.Ireland----29---6.64
    Sampdoria---Trevor FRANCIS---Forward---England---14---6.75
    Torino--Michel VAN DE KORPUT--Defender--Holland--27---6.28
    Torino--Patricio HERNANDEZ--Midfielder--Argentine--28---6.05
    Udinese---EDINHO Nazareth---Defender----Brazil-----30---6.52
    Udinese---Ivo SURJAK---Midfielder----Yugoslavia-----29---6.16
    Verona---Wladyslaw ZMUDA---Defender----Poland-----2---n.g
    Verona---DIRCEU Guimaraes---Midfielder----Brazil-----29---6.53
     
  16. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Top 5: Season 1982-83

    1982-83
    Roberto FALCAO---6.77
    Liam BRADY--------6.64
    Michel PLATINI-----6.61
    Jan PETERS--------6.57
    Herbert PROHASKA-- 6.53
    DIRCEU Guimaraes--- 6.53

    Note 1: Pietro VIERCHOWOOD was the best player of the season 82-83.
    Note 2: Julio Cesar URIBE was the best foreigner of the 1st half of the season.
     
  17. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Re: Top 5: Season 1980-81

    Juary played few matches (12) in the season 80-81, so the 5th best foreigner player would be to austrian:

    Herbert PROHASKA---6.54
     
  18. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Season 1983-84

    CLUB-----PLAYER-----ROLE-----COUNTRY-----GAMES-----AVG.
    Ascoli--Alexander TRIFUNOVIC--Midfielder--Yugoslavia--19--5.82
    Ascoli--Jorge JUARY----Forward-----Brazil-------27-----5.91
    Avellino--Jeronimo BARBADILLO--Forward---Perú---27---6.58
    Avellino--Ramon DIAZ----Forward----Argentine----24----6.25
    Catania----PEDRINHO----Midfielder----Brazil------27-----6.09
    Catania---Donizete LUVANOR---Midfielder---Brazil---30---5.75
    Fiorentina--Daniel PASSARELLA--Defender--Argentine--27--6.68
    Fiorentina--Daniel BERTONI--Forward--Argentine---26---6.13
    Genoa---Francisco ELOI---Midfielder---Brazil----17----5.75
    Genoa---Jan PETERS----Midfielder---Holland----16----6.23
    Inter---Hansi MÜLLER---Midfielder---W.Germany---26---6.46
    Inter----Ludo COECK----Midfielder----Belgium----9----6.14
    Juventus--Zbigniew BONIEK--Midfielder--Poland---27--6.37
    Juventus--Michel PLATINI--Midfielder--France----28---6.84
    Lazio---Joao BATISTA---Midfielder---Brazil----25----6.29
    Lazio--Michael LAUDRUP--Midfielder---Denmark---30---6.17
    AC Milan---Eric GERETS---Defender---Belgium---13---6.24
    AC Milan--Luther BLISSETT--Forward---Jamaica---30---5.73
    Napoli-----Ruud KROL---Defender-----Holland----21----5.75
    Napoli---DIRCEU Guimaraes---Midfielder---Brazil---30---6.22
    Pisa----Klaus BERGGREEN---Midfielder----Denmark--28--6.36
    Pisa-----Win KIEFT----Forward-----Hollanda----23----5.65
    Roma---Roberto FALCAO---Midfielder---Brazil---27---6.75
    Roma---Toninho CEREZO---Midfielder---Brazil----30---6.52
    Sampdoria--Liam BRADY--Midfielder---R.Ireland---28---6.68
    Sampdoria--Trevor FRANCIS--Forward---England---15---6.42
    Torino--Walter SCHACHNER---Midfielder---Austria---30---5.76
    Torino--Patricio HERNANDEZ--Midfielder--Argentine--29---6.24
    Udinese---EDINHO Nazareth---Defender----Brazil-----29---6.4
    Udinese------ZICO------Midfielder-----Brazil-----24----6.77
    Verona---Wladyslaw ZMUDA---Defender----Poland-----5---n.g
    Verona---Joe JORDAN---Forward----Scotland-----12---5.98
     
  19. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Top 5: Season 1983-84

    1983-84
    Michel PLATINI------6.84
    ZICO-------------6.77
    Roberto FALCAO----6.75
    Liam BRADY---------6.68
    Daniel PASSARELLA-- 6.68
     
  20. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    Re: Top 5: Season 1983-84

    What a tight race between Platini Zico and Falcao

    However Platini got a slight advantage in playing at UCL cup perfomrance over Zico that year - even before his Great Euro
     
  21. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Re: Top 5: Season 1983-84

    In the World Soccer rankings for 1983, these were the places for players acting in Serie-A:
    1) Zico
    2) Platini
    3) Falcao

    In the rankings for 1984:
    1) Platini
    3) Zico
    8) Rossi

    Meanwhile in Ballon d'Or only euro players were available to prize, those years
     
  22. schwuppe

    schwuppe Member+

    Sep 17, 2009
    Club:
    FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih
    Re: Top 5: Season 1983-84

    Do you have rankings for Italian players too?
     
  23. Estel

    Estel Member+

    May 5, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Re: Top 5: Season 1983-84

    Any idea what these rankings were based on? Was it a reader poll or was it something more credible than that?
     
  24. comme

    comme Moderator
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    Feb 21, 2003
    Re: Top 5: Season 1983-84

    The World Soccer award is always based on a poll of the readers.
     
  25. comme

    comme Moderator
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    Feb 21, 2003

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