What do you think of this ? http://www.canalejuve.it/news/la-juve-non-rischia-la-champions-parola-della-figc-49470
Come on, man. A blog? Really? There's no source based on this information anywhere in that article. It was pure speculation. Also, I have not read anything anywhere saying that the FICG is considering removing Juve from the Champions League.
Again, that's all pure speculation. There's nothing in the rules that could prevent Juve from participating in Champions League, and the FIGC were to do anything as foolish as that, they could be in for an enormous lawsuit.
Apparently Filippo Carobbio, the man accusing Antonio Conte of abetting match-fixing, has now changed his story and is claiming that neither Conte nor any member of his staff was involved at all. He's now saying it was all arranged by Massimo Mezzaroma. Who would have seen this coming?
There was some stupid editorial in La Repubblica yesterday speculating that there was precedence for our removal (something to do with what happened to Fenerbahce last season). Today the FIGC has denied that we're at all at risk of losing our CL spot.
I wonder he received a sack with a dollar sign on it... What? I'm just teasing. We have to laugh about something involving this.
Fenerbahce actually did fix matches though. They would have been relegated under the Turkish sporting law that says that any team found of fixing a match would be relegated. Fortunately, the politicians all revoked the law once they "talked" with the president of Fenerbahce. (I'll give you a hint: It had something to do with receiving briefcases full of euros.)
Oh yeah. Let's listen to what the Genoa Ultras have to say and take it into consideration. If we don't, they might ask us to remove our shirts and not let us leave the area...
Considering that is the basis for investigating Criscito, that he spoke to the Ultra's, makes the state's evidence weak. Anyway, Criscito would not have been able to fix the Luxembourg match as you speculated since it was cancelled.
Can't you see that this earthquake was a ruse? There was no earthquake! In all seriousness, he met with the Ultras and some Romanians who just happened to be there. What a crock of shit. Like we're supposed to believe Ultras. Yeah, they're the most honest and law-abiding people anywhere...
Well, this is the problem, isn't it? You have self-confessed match-fixers accusing everybody under sundry in order to alleviate there own punishment and you have everybody who's been accused denying it. Why trust a Genoa ultra anymore than you would a Carobbio or a Masiello? This always happens when the Italian "authorities" are "investigating" these criminal conspiracies. You have a few individuals basically saying anything and blaming everybody for crimes they themselves have been accused of. There are swaths of arrests, selective information leaked to the press, a great spectacle of the civil authority's power (which few Italians actually believe in, let alone trust), and in the end you have even fewer charges actually brought against any of these "suspects". It's the theater of a capricious judiciary and a corrupt, nearly non-existent executive.
So Criscito should be charged just on the basis that a photograph was taken of him eating dinner with some Genoa Ultra's and Romanians. So if the individuals who were eating with him state that he did nothing, what evidence is used to convict him?
its true that it was stupid decision by players or coaches who did this stuff but what i mean is why does FIGC use the worst timing to deal with this? right after the season or during important competitions...just ruins the mood they could wait for summer when there are no games or at the beginning of the season to be sort of a warning for that year so others are aware of what not to do. and also KNOWING and DOING are 2 different things; conte might have known but doesnt mean he was involved. I dont think you should get punished for that cuz it could be serious stuff involved like life or death. What if conte knew but couldnt speak cuz mafia threatened him? he doesnt wanna risk by telling...and he doesnt wanna say oh mafia told me not to say anything, etc...and it becomes such a huge headache
I'm not saying that he should have the book thrown at him. What I am saying, though, is that there is a reason why these people have been singled out, and it's not because of man made drama. Criscito obviously knows something, and the prosecutors want to know what he knows. That's why they went after him. Also, those Romanians were being investigated as well. It's like if you talk with someone who is being investigated for some kind of crime. They want to know what you talked about, or if you're involved somehow. They want information. It's the same with Conte. Conte may very well have done nothing wrong, but if your name comes up, and you have reasonable suspicion in the eyes of prosecutor's office, then you're going to get investigated.
They went after him because they photographed him at a restaurant. That is not enough to raid his room in Coverciano and place him under suspicion. Questioning him for information is one thing. Treating him like a criminal is another. At this point, the Italian authorities might as well place extradition orders for Kevin Bacon. No one knows if Criscito knows anything. Same for Conte. But this is the Italian investigation tactics. Everyone is treated as a mafioso or a terrorist. I am certain that if the authorities had done the decent thing and contact the FIGC that they needed to speak to the player, that Criscito would not be in hiding right now.
To be perfectly honest, if going to dinner with "allegedly" criminal ultra and their "friends" is enough to get a player investigated by the police and essentially dropped from the national team, then every player from every team in every division in the entire country should be placed under investigation for everything from drug dealing to money laundering to match-fixing; Italy would have to withdraw from the Eurobecause nobody would be available to play for the squad.
And you know this for certain how? Were you part of the investigations? Maybe there's more to these investigations than they have provided information on. I prefer to err on the side that everyone but Gubbio's Simone Farina is guilty because there have been ample opportunities to step up, and yet only one person has. One. In a sea of match fixing that has involved almost the entirety of Serie B, and half of Serie A, only one person knows something, and he has spoken up. You can believe what you want, but these people are being investigated for a reason. I may not be certain of what that reason is, but innocent men are not investigated for no reason.
So Luca Marrone is guilty? Of what? There's no indication that he knew anything about fixed matches. But because he played for a Serie B team he's guilty of... playing for a Serie B team. But because he's not Simone Farina, he should be punished for not doing something about something he knew nothing about. Do you see how absurd that is? Presumption of guilt is the hallmark of a banana republic, which is what Italy is. Or rather, to call "Italy" (an arbitrary conception of a nation-state that very few "Italians" even acknowledge except during international football tournaments) a 'banana republic' would be to flatter its civil institutions.