New Zack City: Steffen at Middlesbrough (olf Manchester City)

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  1. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    That also describes Guzan. His foot skills are appalling.

    Red Bull does across their entire organization. RBNY's pass completion percentage this year was like, 60% because they primarily play long balls.
     
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  2. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
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    While I don't think it's fair to rate goalkeepers on their worst mistakes, an errant pass isn't something completely new with Steffen, unfortunately. I wouldn't say he is a terrible distributor but the high praise he got early on wasn't warranted either. It's a growing process, but I think we'd all like to see him have moved past this by now.

    Some weird decision making on the other goals but I don't wanna harp on him too match. Expecting a good bounce back for next game.
     
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  3. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
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    Like other position players, Goalkeepers don’t make great leaps with their foot skills in their mid 20s. They are who they are on that point. Zack’s best case scenario is learning to play within himself and that he will never be an effective ball playing goalkeeper.
     
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  4. Pegasus

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  5. butters59

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    Feb 22, 2013
    We should unretire Rimando.
     
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  6. mattjo

    mattjo Member+

    Feb 3, 2001
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    The thing to me about Steffen and these type of errors is that it is largely decision making mistakes rather than touch. Whether watching him in person, in MLS, or in Germany, he has the ability to play with the ball at his feet (demonstrably better than any of his counterparts when he was in MLS), but he does seem to have mental lapses in decision making at times.
     
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  7. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
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    FC Bayern München
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    Steffen started the season off really well but he is not among the best in the league. We shouldn't be expecting that either
     
  8. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    says who? Most stats included him in top 5 more or less since the season started. Fair enough place to me considering he came from MLS.
     
  9. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

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    United States
    He plays for Duesseldorf
     
  10. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Yes, but he just came from MLS.
     
  11. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    No, not even close. He wasn't horrible when not put uder pressure though. Rimando has always been amongst better skilled players on his team. There are others who are better than Steffen as well.
     
  12. ChicagoVT

    ChicagoVT Member

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    Jun 26, 2019
    This thread went from Steffen has a chance to be called back to play for Man City to he sucks and Guzan should play over him within one page. WTH is wrong with you people...LOL. He had a bad game, but he has proven over a longer stretch of games this season that he is a very good Bundesliga keeper and this is while being on a very bad team. Everyone stop being so damn reactionary...
     
  13. Pegasus

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    Somehow Luchi made Gonzalez improve by miles by just having him do rondos with the field players in pre-season and I'm guessing the regular season also. he was pretty bad at distribution but was leading the league in keeper passing at one point (not sure about final numbers). Just think if every coach did this from youth teams on up.
     
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  14. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

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    I know right it's not like he was playing St. Pauli. Bayern Munich is one of the best teams in the world and not playing good against them is not the end of the world or his career.

    Take a step back off that ledge guys.
     
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  15. Casper

    Casper Member+

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    New York
    Every club I've ever coached at has done this - including keepers in all foot skills drills unless there is a shot/save component or it's set-aside keeper training time. At every age. I can sort of understand doing less of this at the pro level, but your point that it should be kept up even at the pro level has merit.
     
  16. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Precisely.

    Just hope the pressure doesn't get to him. Guzan battled relegation for several seasons and went from among top keepers in the PL to so hated by his own club fans that they trolled him endlessly.
     
  17. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

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    Steffen had some big saves after going 1 down. Kept Duesseldorf in the game and they grabbed the equalizer to leave with a point
     
  18. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    The guys in the 95er forum blame Zack for the goal and fail to praise him for the saves.
     
  19. rgli13

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  20. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Whoscored
     
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  21. TimB4Last

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    Pretty obviously the Fortuna defense should be set up to prevent long shots, to encourage short shots, and to concede penalties.
     
  22. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Actually, watching Steffen for the last few years, he isn't very good on long shots and phenomenal on penalties. Good for whoscored engine.
     
  23. BostonRed

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