Yep. The only 4 US players that would automatically meet the Premier League work permit standard in January 2019 would be Bradley, Nagbe, Gonzalez, and Arriola. Basically, players who played both WCQs and the Gold Cup in 2017. A few others like Villafana, Dempsey, Altidore, and Acosta fall just short.
meanwhile hundreds of English players are eligible for MLS and can just waltz right in without having to meet any ridiculous standards - but that's totally fair!
You all need to brush up on your labor and employment law. A solid 50% of the things being mentioned in this thread are illegal under American law.
Sure, the criteria for appeals can move since the soccer board is influenced by the FA (and contains lots of FA members former players) In 2015 or so the English consciously moved to tighten the appeals system which up to then had an 80% success rate and felt it was hurting domestic development. They could change that, but there is no incentive for the UK to liberalize the appeal process for the US. They would liberalize it for Brazil, Argentina, many African countries first. MLS/US simply holds no leverage here. Now... if there's ever an ex-EU labor agreement to be negotiated... then you should call your congressperson!
Brexit is looking less likely, but one of the possibilities of the bilateral free trade agreement proposed between the U.K. and the USA could have been free movement of labor. Everything was on the table.
if steffen is going to man city- but has to be loaned back for only half an mls season to even be allowed into england - it is messed up. so i dont think my tangential posts are truly off-topic in any sense.
build a Dyke. Keep those Brits and their bad teeth and food where they belong. They won't send their best. They will send fat Rooney!
[QUOTE="adam tash, post: 37334818, member: 229351 how many of these guys would qualify for a work permit if the USA had the same laws as the UK? Hint: NONE! .[/QUOTE] The criteria for a work permit is based on the quality of the workers you're competing against. The quality in the EPL is far superior to that of MLS.
The criteria for a work permit is based on the quality of the workers you're competing against. The quality in the EPL is far superior to that of MLS.[/QUOTE] you must not have watched that recent burnley-newcastle match...it felt like i was watching college soccer. if tim ream can play in the EPL then there's gotta be a hundred americans that are good enough for that league not 4. it's not about quality its about restricting access and protecting the # of Brits who are in the EPL - if there was no restriction - there would be only a handful of british players in the EPL....the same reason MLS limits international slots - to protect the number of american in MLS. I'm not sayin it has to be open flows of americans to england - but it should be more balanced than 4 americans qualify to the EPL and hundreds of brits qualify to MLS....there's gotta be a creative solution to make it more balanced. For instance - if you've performed well for the USMNT - then you are eligible...instead of the arbitrary 75% quota - (that % is totally arbitrary and not based on law and can therefore be adjusted)...could be one solution. Or just make it a lower # - 50% or 33% or something - then it wouldn't be a whole lot of players but it would be more reasonable. I mean think about - a 75% quota means what? a max of 10 players eligible -IF everyone is healthy and no one gets/injured and there is littel squad rotation. a 50% means a max of ~20 eligible players...a 33% makes it somewhere between 30 and 40. if 40 usmnt players were eligible for the EPL instead of 4 - would it be the end of the world?? no. all of those players wouldnt even go to the epl regardless - but it would be nice if they were allowed to. If a player like zack steffen has to jump through all these hurdles oike a half season loan back to his MLS just to qualify for the EPL - something is wrong. he's good enough that man city wants him but not good enough for the EPL??? makes no sense. I'm also thinking of the agudelo, shea, etc situations where other americans had their moves to england blocked/hindered by these rules.... I cannot believe that most of you seem to be happy with the current laws as-is - they are not favorable to Americans who want to become 'yanks-abroad'
The issue is not whether we are "happy" with the current laws - the issue is whether your pitch of an MLS (tit for tat) blocking of UK imports would change the law. (Even if it were somehow legal/passable.) I'm not happy I can't drive 100 on the 10 to Needles at 7 am on a Sunday, but that unhappiness will change nothing. There are limited slots in the EPL. England wants to protect their national team. They don't think more US players noticeably improves EPL profit. So there is not incentive. MLS saying "we won't take fat Rooney" even if you could convince MLS to do it, won't have any effect. That is the point. Who wouldn't want more players in one of the best (and best paying) leagues in the world but, as grammy used to say, if wishes were Porsches, Beggers would drive (Grammy was hip.)
At the moment they're not just competing against Brits, but all EU and EEA citizens. Also it's not a hard 75% anymore - it's a sliding scale based on quality of the national team. Last I checked it was 60% for US players based on our FIFA ranking. If the US improves it's FIFA ranking that % goes down. That's for automatic qualification. After that there's an appeals process. The rules are the same for all non EU/EEA citizens. How can the US say we deserve special treatment? When our team and our players improve work permits will be easier to come by.
well FIFA rankings are garbage anyway - and this whole nations league movement is just another way to calcify the establishment....just shows how arbitrary these "requirements" are.
Official. Will stay with the Crew until July 9th, 2019. Transfer fee "largest in club history" but is undisclosed. Thread title updated. .@zackstef_23 will remain with #CrewSC until the beginning of the 2019 Secondary Transfer Window, which opens July 9.His transfer fee: largest in Club history, largest in @MLS history for a goalkeeper 🙌Nothing but the best for No. 2️⃣3️⃣ pic.twitter.com/Af8tiV1EWS— The Crew (@ColumbusCrew) December 11, 2018
Well, watching that highlight reel makes me think that the next person to take a PK against him should shoot to Steffen's left.
it would be easier for him to qualify for the WP if, ya know, the USMNT didn't suck at the moment. I'm a fan of this move. No need to fight it out for playing time when he's already in a situation where he's the starter. Can hopefully go over and do a preseason with Citeh and go from there.
@bshredder Is it a transfer now and loan back to C'bus? Meaning is he at this point contracted to Man City?
Nice. Looks like the Crew knew what they were doing when they turned down Bristol City in the summer (I recall a minor fuss in the NT forum when word of that came out).