Yura Movsisyan- Spartak

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Real Corona, Nov 30, 2012.

  1. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    so he was making like 1.5 million euros. Could he be on less than a million a year for RSL? I doubt he'd be getting 2. maybe somewhere in the middle?
     
  2. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Found a beauty here at Championat. (I might as well translate)


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    "Spartak" Moscow forward Yura Movsisyan was a subject of interest by Galatasaray but refused the potential transfer to the Turkish club, writes Fotospor.

    According to sources, "Spartak" agreed to the transfer of the Baku born Armenian to Gala but Movsisyan declined it due to the complicated relations between Armenia and Turkey and due to threats to life and limb received from the Armenian nationalists.

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    so, it seems like Galatasaray first contacted the Armenian nationalists, then "Spartak", then Yura. (I kid).

    For those who need a political primer, contact Wikipedia directly.


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    the original Russian text below


    Нападающий московского «Спартака» Юра Мовсисян был интересен «Галатасараю», но отказался переходить в турецкий клуб, сообщает fotospor.

    По информации источника, «Спартак» дал согласие на трансфер родившегося в Баку армянина в «Галатасарай», но сам Мовсисян от перехода отказался ввиду непростых отношений между Арменией и Турцией, а также из-за угроз жизни и здоровью, которые он получил от армянских националистов.
     
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  3. sakibomb523

    sakibomb523 Member+

    Oct 13, 2009
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    Can't imagine his reception in Glendale, let alone Yerevan if he signed for a Turkish club.
     
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  4. Gorky

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    Interesting. Thanks.

    God I hate italic Cyrillic.
     
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  5. BostonRed

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  6. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
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    Looks like it's a loan:
     
  7. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    A loan from a Russian club. MLS has come a long way in 20 years
     
  8. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    More like the RPL has come down crashing in two. After Zenit, there's slim pickings.
     
  9. BostonRed

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    The Yanks Abroad thread for the man who is now neither, comes to a close.
    [​IMG]
     
  10. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Does this move at all effect his NT opportunities?
     
  11. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

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    Certainly it's possible that Armenia won't call him as often, but it depends on how well he does at RSL.
     
  12. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    I doubt it. He's Armenia's best forward by far (Mkhtaryan is a midfielder).

    And, in any case, this is only a loan. Fedun must be hoping that oil goes back up to $60 and he can afford a full roster.
     
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  13. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    He's apparently their 3rd highest goalscorer with 10 goals. 6 behind their record goalscorer. Certaintly possible. Hopefully they get a good shot for Euro 2020. With 24 teams it's their best chance ever.
     
  14. The Irish Rover

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    Not a jot.

    The Armenian League is terrible, barely even NASL standard, but half their squad comes from the domestic league, and most of the rest are bench warmers for Russian mid-table sides. They've called up a player from Dutch D2 for a Euro 2016 qualifier for goodness sake (it was his 8th cap).

    A starting striker for a playoff-quality MLS side is better than any - make that ANY - other options available to them,
     
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  15. sidefootsitter

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    Oct 14, 2004
    #165 sidefootsitter, Jan 20, 2016
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    Not the most favorable review of Yura's career in Moscow. This says he started at €1.5M, then raised to €2.2M. The agent fees of €2M is probably a scam.

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    По первому контракту у игрока была зарплата, как говорят, полтора миллиона евро, В феврале 2015-го с ним продлили контракт (хотя прежний истекал в 2017-м и играл Юра к тому времени плохо), зарплата, по некоторым данным, выросла до 2,2 миллиона евро, а, самое любопытное, клуб, по слухам, над которыми смеется весь агентский мир, заплатил агентские выплаты около 2 миллионов евро.

    http://www.sovsport.ru/blogs/blog/bmessage-item/45458

    PS. His Armenian/Spartak teammate Aras Ozbiliz did transfer to Turkey, to Besiktas. Russians are stunned.
     
  16. BostonRed

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  17. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    The last time there was fighting in Nagorno-Karabakh? Ah, like a month ago.
     
  18. beamish

    beamish Member+

    Jul 6, 2009
    Here's the followup.

    Some people really like Utah.
     
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  19. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    how much was he making at Moscow compared to RSL? I can't imagine him getting less than a million here
     
  20. BostonRed

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  21. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

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    And also was loathe to continue living in Russia, which you can't blame him for. That's in spite of being from Armenia originally. Yet some begrudge Americans for not considering the Eastern bloc as a viable path to decent football in Europe. You have to weigh in quality of life, happiness, as Yura did. Got paid for a few years, with that not being a springboard to football anywhere else in Europe, then got out, at least for the time being.
     
  22. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
  23. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Armenians are Christian and are generally aligned with Slavs (Russia and Belarus) and against the Muslims (the Turks and the Azeris). But there are plenty of all of the above - and Georgians - in Moscow.

    And, as a side note, the exodus of well paid foreign players from the RPL continues. Zenit just sold Hulk and will probably sell Witsel. The league is bleeding millions, if not hundreds of millions. They will turn to the locally raised players - the matches will now be easier to fix too - and might even turn to another Russian coach to run the national team. Leonid Slutsky, a jovial fellow that he is, wasn't jovial enough to keep the Russian Euro fans entertained. Despite many of them being on the payroll.
     
  24. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
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    Has he finally become a US citizen?

    Chicago listed him as such in his most recent move:

    https://www.chicago-fire.com/post/2018/09/14/chicago-fire-acquire-forward-yura-movsisyan

    Name: Yura Movsisyan
    Position: Forward
    Height: 6’1”
    Weight: 177 lbs.
    Date of Birth: Aug. 2, 1987
    Birthplace: Baku, Azerbaijan
    Citizenship: United States of America
    Last Club: Real Salt Lake

    And then there is this in a story:

    Nowadays he holds the American citizenship and speaks perfect English after receiving tutoring sessions courtesy of Dr Dre, Tupac and Snoop Dogg. What a story!

    https://www.xtremfootball.tv/kung-fut/refugee-mls-star-yura-movsisyan/

    Of course, plenty of people confuse a Green Card with US citizenship. And, as far as MLS is concerned, a Green Card is as good as US citizenship, so mistakes are possible. Even his Wikipedia article says he's a citizen, but references articles as long ago as 2012 to prove it. He's only been back in the US since January 2016, so that's a bit tight to get in the 3 years of residency he needed, though he would probably only need the 18 months of physical presence needed since he could probably show his residence with his family left behind in the US. I would like a little confirmation before going all in.
     
  25. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I gotta wonder how much of a salary cut he took to join them.
     

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