Your Political ideology[NSR]

Discussion in 'Colombia' started by minus, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    por esa razon existen los paramilitares en colombia....
     
  2. Dienewworldorder

    Dienewworldorder Red Card

    Jan 7, 2008
    New York City
    I have the information that contains the truth, you are trying to make it seem that I am the only one capable of having this knowledge, anyone can, however you choose to believe in irrelevant crap like philosophy, who cares. I care about the truth, you are trying to go into another sphere, you sound like a tin foil hat wearer, not me. According to you the Colombian government is not a narco government because the physical realm created by years of brainwashing by school, television, your parents says it could be wrong. Well my reality tells me that you are another propaganda minister for uribe, my reality tells me that the only reason the FARC did not have a terroritory of their own is because they did not want to invest their cocaine profits into the NYSE, my reality tells me that the government is corrupt and is because of stooges like you that Colombia does not end the cycle of violence. I am telling the truth and you have yet to disprove any of my claims, I am still waiting for your counter proof. Give me facts, not nonsense.
     
  3. JPAcolombia9

    JPAcolombia9 Member

    Oct 27, 2006
    HAHA! Lay off the freaking zietgiest man seriously. I bet your really fond of this idiot:

    http://www.truthusa.org/

    The truth is so far no one here is seriously asking for your enlightenment. Lemme guess you wanna grow up to be a freemason! and be exposed to the truths of this world! how ********ing cute. haha. man grow up, u may have graduated law school as you claim but you still have the mentality of a highschool conspiracy thoerist. Up to now your claims show no credibility. and that infowars group gets their info from freaking anncol for the millionth time!
     
  4. Dienewworldorder

    Dienewworldorder Red Card

    Jan 7, 2008
    New York City
    Not really, paramilitaries dont have the right from the government to possess guns, besides paramilitaries are just like the FARC the only difference is that they are sponsored by the United States government and the FARC are not. They both deal drugs, they both kill innocent people, just like the political parties, there is no difference.
     
  5. Dienewworldorder

    Dienewworldorder Red Card

    Jan 7, 2008
    New York City
    Show me the link where infowars gets their news from Anncol. SHow me proof, you come up with allegations and you have nothing to prove them. If this was a case in court your case would have been dismissed, show me facts, not your crazy claims made up by you. I dont want to be no mason, they are part of the New World Order, you seem to be so uninformed that talking to you is like talking to my nephew and my nephew is only four years old. You are the one who nees to grow up because without proof you have no credibility.
     
  6. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    pero en un comienso si...
     
  7. JPAcolombia9

    JPAcolombia9 Member

    Oct 27, 2006
    wow are you kidding me. Go look at your fellow conspiracy theorist comments on your infowars site. they even know that that shit is baised and bs. you've made no clearcut points or even evidence either so stfu. all you've provided is conspiracy theory vids and websites. what a miserable attempt at an insult, " o ya um my 4 year old nephew is smarter than you". psh point proven highschool mentality. im not uninformed. im not just enough of a fool to believe everything i am told like you and believe every word to come out of a conspiracy theorist's mouth. As far as im concerned unless you got a real solution to the problem at hand ******** off. and ya know shit ofcourse colombia and everybody need this :

    "2. Get rid of all the corrupt politicians who are part of the narco trafficking, build more schools, hospitals, make higher education available for everyone so that the disparity between the rich and poor dissapears, Invest the revenue from the exploitation of Colombia's natural resources back to its people in a fair manner, create a republic where everyone has equal representation and legalize the posession of guns because that is the foundation of a free society, not where the only ones who are allowed to have guns are the government and the guerrillas, if the normal people armed themselves there would have been peace in Colombia a long time ago. I am just copying the success stories of the United States and Venezuela under Hugo Chavez."

    im sorry but hugo chavez has not been a success story. he was helped while injail by the farc. He has forced his policies and politics on his people and now is going to make them suffer even more by putting them at war with a neighbor. and do some more research on the actual topic at hand. Caracol reports that they have begun to draft on the streets of venezuela. And before yo come out and bitch that caracol is controlled by the govt. its more credible than your little infowars site.
     
  8. CtrlAlltDel

    CtrlAlltDel New Member

    Mar 12, 2007
    I have one word for this thread.
    [youtube]GP7TbZHub68[/youtube]
     
  9. hadexxx

    hadexxx Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 3, 2005
    Every time you post you show us how dumb you are. "you choose to believe in irrelevant crap like pholosophy, who cares". What??? this only proves that you are not a lawyer, logic of statemenst and components of what makes a statement true should be the basis of your carrer. (high indication that you are not a lawyer)

    "According to you the Colombian government is not a narco government because the physical realm created by years of brainwashing by school, television, your parents says it could be wrong" When the fkuc did I say this???? When did i say it wasnt???

    and last, what is the solution???? why don't you answer the question?

    Uno como puede ser tan IGNORANTE de decir que la filosofia (que es en términos generales, una reflexión metódica que expresa la articulación del conocimiento, las posibilidades y límites de la existencia y modos de ser) es mier.Da?

    AUN ESTOY ESPERANDO UNA PRUEVA CONVINCENTE Y VALIDAD PARA QUE HAGAS TU CASO ABOGADO! HASTA AHORA, ERES UN MULDER FRENTE A SKINNER MUY SKEPTICO Y TE VOY A CERRAR EL ARCHIVO! QUIERO UN MEJOR REPORTE LOGICO EN MI ESCRITORIO PARA MANHANA A LAS 7.30 A.M.
     
  10. hadexxx

    hadexxx Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 3, 2005
    YES, i called you dumb, you have called me ignorant! but let me tell you something about me, I know the media is controlled by huge coorporations that hold and bend the truth for their benefint! I am very skeptical about life it self and everything in it, which is why i used to be an Athiest, now Agnostic, y si no fuera por la filosofia que me ensenho a comprender que es valido y que no es valido, aun seria ateo sin cabida de una posibilidad a otra alternativas. Pero que vas a saber vos de eso. Let me tell you something else, i have very clear how one can get to believe something "ethos, pathos and logos" and since you mentioned that my beliefs are because of an authoritarian figure, like my parents brainwashing me, I will also tell you that they have never ever tried to make me believe in anything, insted they always gave the freedom and space to chose what i wan't to believe. So next time you say something very stupid like that and false and it also involves my parents it will get very nasty buddy. Watch your limits! Don't want to send ET to pull an ATM on you.
     
  11. Dienewworldorder

    Dienewworldorder Red Card

    Jan 7, 2008
    New York City
    Wow, that is your comeback? insults, using the comments of trolls on that website who are cointelpro and misinformation agents to counter my facts, you still call my facts conspiracy, when in reality all your beliefs are conspiracy. You have been lied to your whole life and you choose to believe the lies of a narcotraficante president who could care less about the Colombian people over facts. You are the tool who doesnt stop to question information, you are a sheep and like I said sheep get led to the slaughter. You still have not provided a single link, my four year old nephew could do better, I know ignorance is bliss, but come on, wake up. Are you sure about Chavez's success? Hugo Chavez rose from an unjust incarceration by the then fascist government to become a popularly elected president. He has not forced his policies on people because the majority of Venezuelans support him. You talk about making his people suffer, Venezuela now has more hospitals, schools, better healthcare than they did under all the previous presidents combined. He is sitting on top of the largest reserve of oil in the world and he does not let the corporation keep a 100% of profits but keeps 30% of the profits for the people, Uribe would never do that because he does not give a damn about anything except his fat bank account overseas. Chavez is not perfect and I dont agree with everything he says but If I had to choose between him or Uribe or CHavez and BUSh I choose Chavez. By the way Colombia is the one who started this by entering a sovereign country's soil to kill a so call terrorist. Chavez all he did is put soldiers oh his border, he has not started any wars, so get your facts straight tool.
     
  12. D.I.M

    D.I.M Member

    May 17, 2004
    Woodridge, NJ
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Volviendo al tema que es la preferencia politica....

    Usually, these threads don't end well....

    Mi idea politica no es ni de izquierda ni de derecha. It's a balance. O sea que todos los partidos tengan su palabra y tengan representacion.

    It's too idealistic actually. Porque la democracia dice que lo que es bueno para el 51% es bueno para el 49% y tal vez no sea tan asi.

    Politics is a dirty game no matter how you look at it. I try to concetrate on how the cadidates will solve the issues, but they so rarely talk about how they will solve the issues that I really just want to not vote.

    No one ever comes out and says my plan requires us to have X amount of dollars we'll shift these dollars from here to do this and if you vote for me I'll do x, y, and z. But there are so many hidden agendas that they can't do that.

    Despues de toda esa chorrera I'm a democrat I guess cause of my liberal thinking.

    En terminos de Colombia creo que el presidente puede ser lo que sea, pero tiene los pantalones puestos. Es el unico que tiene la guerrilla contra las cuerdas.
    No se si eso me hace Uribista pero me gusta lo que esta haciendo por el pais. Those are some hard shoes to fill once he leave (if he really does leave).
     
  13. Dienewworldorder

    Dienewworldorder Red Card

    Jan 7, 2008
    New York City
    Wow, I am so scared, the little sheep is getting mad. Funny you dont get mad at a president who lies to you, who is a narcotraficante, but no that is a conspiracy and I need to know philosophy in order to know that the Colombian government is corrupt. I am glad that your parents didnt brainwash you, then it is worse, the media has you brainwashed, pity. You know the elite laughs at you, they use their false fronts, philosophy, communism, feminism in order to get you away from the truth that is why you are a tool because you let them control you. You still have not provided any proof yet, I have plenty of videos, articles, facts and all you have done gotten off topic because the truth is too hard for you to bear. I dont need to be a philosopher to be a lawyer, all i need is to read law books, research, write motions, present it in front of a judge because the law is not philosophical, its theoretical. You have no clue what you are talking about and you are still uninformed. Get back to me with some facts, because trying to convince you is boring me. You can lead a jackass to the water but you cant make him drink and that is what you are.
     
  14. Dienewworldorder

    Dienewworldorder Red Card

    Jan 7, 2008
    New York City
    Yeah, its ok that uribe is a narcotraficante because he has his pantalones bien puestos. I guess killing innocent people is what makes a man a man, what a tool. The guerrilla is on the ropes, that is so laughable, the guerrilla will not end until the corrupt government supporting it is eliminated. You people remind me of Bush lovers, he violates the constitution, enters illegal wars, is heading the country to bankruptcy, but its ok he has his pantalones bien puestos. This ignorance is amazing. His shoes wont be hard to fill because there are lots of narcotraficante politicians on the wings waiting to continue with the narco government. Ignorance is bliss.
     
  15. JPAcolombia9

    JPAcolombia9 Member

    Oct 27, 2006
    Me a tool.... ya ok ********face. your the cuunt who sits around all day looking up conspiracy theories. i know it hurts to hear thats all they are. but thats THE TRUTH. ive already provided my links, get off your lazy bitchass and look a few pages back. i know it might be hard for a pizzaface like yourself but try. Ya cuba has some of the best healthcare in the world supposedly and look at how bad that story has turned out to be. You dont provide facts you provide opinion. Im gonna draw the line in the sand. Your not gonna change your opinion and god knows im not gonna change mine so lets leave it at that. It's ok ill be the bigger man and ignore the loose points you bring up. And ya i dont think this is something new here spain has attacked eta in portugal so once again stfu. Are you really that false to try to make us think that you really care about humanity that much? apparently humanity is nothing because they dont see your way so good job trying to make a point. i'm supposedly a tool because i dont embrace your conspiracy theories, well your a freaking HYPOCRIT and EMBRASSMENT TO SOCIETY. now before you come out and try to bullshit us with your lectures on how blind, ********ed up etc society is, SAVE IT because i could careless and frankly im sure many others here on the board see things the same way. The only person causing unrest and lobbing insults here is you. you've done it to everyone who isnt sucking your toothpick cock about your conspiracy theories. wake the hell up and stop tripping over yourself in what you say. you only added more and more air to the bubble. WE'RE LIVING IN THE MATRIX EVERYBODY! SAVE YOURSELVES!!!
     
  16. hadexxx

    hadexxx Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 3, 2005
    lol... show your videos to a judge!
     
  17. hadexxx

    hadexxx Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 3, 2005
    Dude, you are the one deviating from the argument... and focusing on "insults" which you started. so what is the right thing to do in this case? and who is on the good side?


    HOW COME YOU NEVER ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, and please show a real video.. damn... can't believe you let homemade porn brainwashyou into this.
     
  18. Dienewworldorder

    Dienewworldorder Red Card

    Jan 7, 2008
    New York City
    Ha,ha,ha insults are a sign of an inferior mind. I am not trying to change your opinion because you are a sheep and you will be led to the slaughter, that is your choice. You are still a misinformation agent because you lie about my information, but wow since many others agree with you, like what three other people, wow, what a crowd. You are such a tool, you blindingly follow a criminal president without researching the facts, that makes you beyond ignorant, that make you un bruto. Things in Colombia are so perfect, take a walk down a regular neighborhood and tell me the good job your hero Uribe has done. Everyday things in Colombia get worse and worse and is all Chavez's fault, what a dumbass. I guess you have not watched any of my videos so your opinion is insignificant. I could have a better conversation with the wall at least the wall does not have a brain, but you are supposed to have one, so what happened? The brain is in your head for a reason, use it.
     
  19. Dienewworldorder

    Dienewworldorder Red Card

    Jan 7, 2008
    New York City
    Go back to my previous posts, they are all there, I am not a parrot for your amusement, If you want someone repeating stuff go check with Efernandez and JPA who are the official parrots of the narco government president Uribe.
     
  20. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    oye Dienewworldorder todavia estoy esperando buenas razones para no pensar que la razon por la cual existen los paramilitares fue porque el gobierno les dio armas a los campesinos para defenderse contra la guerrilla...
    tu me dijiste
    Not really, paramilitaries dont have the right from the government to possess guns.

    pero en un principio si, despues se les salio de control al gobierno y resulto en como en tus propias palabras dices...
    besides paramilitaries are just like the FARC

    asi que eso que tu dices solo crea mas guerra...

    legalize the posession of guns because that is the foundation of a free society, not where the only ones who are allowed to have guns are the government and the guerrillas, if the normal people armed themselves there would have been peace in Colombia a long time ago.



    darle armas al pueblo es la locura mas grande, te doy por ejemplo los estados unidos, hagamos de cuenta que todo el mundo hoy tiene acceso a armas, cuantos suicidos y matansas habrian por deprecion,despecion etc etc? venganzas, rabia con el mundo etc etc... te van a robar y como tu tienes una pistola te defiendes matando al que te roba y este a ti.. aunque se por cual punto vas dejandole saber al gobierno que tenemos armas y que en cualquier momento podemos usarla contra el si nos miente no es la forma, ya que crearia un desorden social increiblemente grande
     
  21. hadexxx

    hadexxx Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 3, 2005
    Ha,ha,ha insults are a sign of an inferior mind
     
  22. JPAcolombia9

    JPAcolombia9 Member

    Oct 27, 2006
    DIENEWORLDORDER unlike you i dint run away from my country. and i actually do have the privilege of being able to roam my streets freely thanks to our president. Like it or not, uribes defense policies have completely changed the state of security in our country. obviously you havent been to colombia lately or you would know. its ok. and ya im only fighting fire with fire. BTW HEY EVERYONE DONT SAY ANYTHING, BUT "DIENEWWORLDORDER" IS AN ANGEL AND HASN'T INSULTED ANYONE! O AND HE NEVER REPEATS HIS LOOSE POINTS.
     
  23. JPAcolombia9

    JPAcolombia9 Member

    Oct 27, 2006
  24. hadexxx

    hadexxx Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 3, 2005
    Damn, went looking through all your postings and i can say is that your boy Alex what ever, from your favorite website is as good as an obductee or someone that had lunch with big foot. Anyways... Didn't find any answers to my questions to you!

    But i have to admint that what you said about me was really funny! You are a funny dude, there is no doubt about that. anyways, i have to give you props for that coment about me "you sound like a tin foil hat wearer, not me." really funny:D
     
  25. JPAcolombia9

    JPAcolombia9 Member

    Oct 27, 2006
    but shhhh acording to him, he doesnt insult anyone and he has provided concrete evidence.
     

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