Youngsters in MLS (1997 or later)

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  1. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    There have been a number of young US players getting consistent minutes in the region. Adams, Glad, Acosta, Lennon, players like Mihailovic, Saucedo, Redding, Farfan, Vazquez, Lewis, Jones have gotten more minutes than some of the more highly rated players that are talked about. And then there's Jonathan Gonzalez who gets regular minutes in Mexico. There's a number of players in Europe getting minutes. Pulisic is a starter, McKennie gets some minutes, Wright and Perez gets regular minutes on loan, looking like Carter-Vickers will as well. Its not like its impossible to get minutes, a number of teams that our players play for have been giving them minutes.

    I think its just up to the situation more than a player's ability. In a lot of these situations, some of the better players we have are not getting minutes or having to go out on loan to get those minutes, meanwhile players who are not really on the radar as big time players are getting minutes due to being relatively quality players for favorable situations at those clubs. It is discouraging, but you have to figure that eventually these players will get their chance, they will at some point not be young anymore and not have that working against them. You'd prefer they all get a chance as soon as possible, but that often doesn't happen. Its holding the NT back because its making the transition from the current generation that is struggling to the up and coming generation that is really talented longer than we'd want it to be.
     
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  2. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perez is on the bench for a serie C team
     
  3. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I forgot Italian teams have those really big benches, but usually in most leagues, any player who's regularly making the 18 is getting regular minutes. You usually only have 1 (maybe 2) players on the bench at each position, so you gotta be comfortable playing them. Not enough spots to play around with, although it is a little different in Italy. Anyway, he just got there, give it some time. Serie C is not a very high level, and we know Perez is a decent enough player that he should do well in Serie C. Thats not to say he's a star, but he's almost 20 and Serie C is a low level, there's really no reason he shouldn't be doing well in Serie C.
     
  4. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm just pointing out you said he's getting regular minutes on loan but he's only got 9 minutes.
     
  5. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    Barrios is, quite obviously, not a good example for this argument. It still stands in general.
     
  6. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    In case people didn't see this, FCD has signed their 20th academy product. Not technically a homegrown and too old to be thread-eligible. Still, a nice story. I talked about Cortes quite a bit in the past as a potential homegrown some day. He was the starter on the 2012 U18 national championship team. Apparently Carlos Avilez is on an extended trip with the Mexico U8s and they have other camps upcoming. So FCD needed cover. He becomes the 4th academy goalkeeper to sign with the club after Sanchez, Gonzalez, and Avilez. Apparently FCD tried to re-acquire Richard Sanchez as the third keeper, but Chicago picked him up instead.
     
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  7. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Just don't call him "chicken."

     
  8. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Fc Dallas are going for broke with that lineup no matter what
     
  9. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
  10. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    Acosta and Glad both start:


    I give props to Petke. Acosta made a dumb mistake two weeks ago and got a deserved red card, and Petke has him back in the lineup. Cool to see an MLS coach give a 19 year old some leash.
     
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  11. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3811 TarHeels17, Sep 16, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2017
    More MLS coaches should learn from this. 6 months ago we were crying that Acosta was being played at LB for the u20s, and after a coach has some faith in a player, he's considered one of our top LB prospects right now.

    Same thing happened with Miazga. Guy sucked for a few months, but by the end of the year he was worth 5m to a premier league team. There's not a very large gap between a good youth player and average MLS player, and a little leash will diminish that gap entirely.

    EDIT: And, by the way, this is a big reason Oscar screwed up this year. If they were really trying to win MLS Cup this year and the shield wasn't important, then they should've used the past few months bleeding youth and giving them time to succeed. A Cannon with as many minutes as Acosta has had this year would be quite useful to them right now.
     
  12. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Arellano is starting for LA, who appear to be using a 3-5-2 tonight.

    Yueill is starting for SJ.
     
  13. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Sands making his MLS debut coming on for Pirlo in the 67 minute.
     
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  14. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone knows how Sands played in his actual position?
     
  15. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    more observation but i thought he was tentative putting himself in some physically demanding positions to compete for headers inside his own 18
     
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  16. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Yueill is getting a lot of love from this weekend's game.

     
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  17. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Not impressed.
     
  18. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Doesn't impress me either. Mix Diskerud 2.0, which is a decent player, but fringe NT player, IMO.
     
  19. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Mix has much cleaner touches.
     
  20. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I agree that Yueill looks like a Wil Trapp level player. That said he will likely be of note for the Olympic qualifiers.
     
  21. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of the current u20 crop which guys would you put money on to be senior team level?
     
  22. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd play this game, but I'd feel bad about condemning yet another promising prospect to an ignominious career of disappointment and failure.
     
  23. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    So it was YOU
     
  24. Kombucha

    Kombucha Member+

    Jul 1, 2016
    Club:
    --other--
    "The best current player in MLS and the best player in MLS since Tony Sanneh retired in 2009."

    - Giggsy
     
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  25. tippco333

    tippco333 Member

    AC Perugia
    United States
    Jun 12, 2015
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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