Young Talents Looking to Make a Name for Themselves in 2016/2017

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by sempreITALIA, Jul 17, 2016.

  1. totti fan

    totti fan Member+

    Jun 24, 2010
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    SSC Napoli
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    Italy
    Great job.

    Few more to keep an eye on:
    Sassuolo - Stefano Sensi CM (21)
    Sassuolo - Federico Ricci FWD (22)
     
  2. Baggionero

    Baggionero Member+

    Apr 23, 2015
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Calabria and Locatelli have looked great this season so far. Locatelli nearly won Milan the game off one pass to Luiz Adriano.
     
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  3. Baggionero

    Baggionero Member+

    Apr 23, 2015
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    You should have also added Belotti, Sensi and Mandragora to this list. Belotti is continuing his great form from the end of last season and this time without the inconsistency where he scored most of his goals in the second half of the season. He's evolving. Already elite at hold up play, great on the counter and can beat his marker one on one. Sensi in limited time has been bossing it in Sassuolo's midfield, alongside other Italian gems like Politano, Berardi and Juve's Spanish youth produce; Pol Lirola.

    Also, Mandragora was huge when he debuted against Juventus at 17 for Genoa. I expect him to be extremely important for us when he comes back from injury. For all intents and purposes, he's already better than Asamoah.
     
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  4. secretariat89

    secretariat89 Member

    Jun 10, 2009
    Manado, Indonesia
    Country:
    Italy
    The reason why I didn't add those players because Sensi has only played too few games so far and is injured, Mandragora is injured and hasn't featured, and Belotti is kind of an obvious player now. Belotti to me should be a threat to win the capocannoniere starting this year and get a call-up to the up-coming World Cup Qualification.
     
  5. thorus

    thorus Member

    Feb 28, 2016
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    Any thoughts on Andrea Petagna from Atalanta? He seems to be a big burly forward but with skill and moves.

    Also, on name alone, would love to see Carpi's Kevin Lasagna make the name. I think that he would make a deadly combination when paired with Luca Toni's younger brother; not well known outside of the country, but very well known in Italy. Just in case you were not aware of him, I give to you: Riga Toni :D;):p
     
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  6. Baggionero

    Baggionero Member+

    Apr 23, 2015
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    Juventus FC
    Sensi has looked good regardless; Was great in Europa league and looked very confident. Belotti is obvious to us, but he's under the radar for a lot of people still. And Mandragora is purely off of what I have seen for the last two seasons.
     
  7. Rosay

    Rosay Member+

    May 7, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Hell call up Maccarone and Mani Cotti
     
  8. thorus

    thorus Member

    Feb 28, 2016
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    A team that included those 4 names will surely be unbeatable.:p
     
  9. thorus

    thorus Member

    Feb 28, 2016
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    On a serious note, any info on Andrea Petagna from Atalanta?

    Watched some videos of him, and he seems to have talent.
     
  10. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    dont forget vincenzo mortadella (montella)... thats what my younger cousins used to call him back in the day
     
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  11. phat

    phat Viking

    Feb 13, 2006
    Montreal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Country:
    Italy
    The issue runs deeper. Right now IMHO as long as the coaches in Serie A don't allow the youth to play freely (at least the ones who technical talent, we will never see great players again. Where stuck in the age of robots. When was the last time you saw a forward beat a goalkeeper and score?
     
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  12. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Milan let Locatelli play freely yesterday, did you see it? :D
     
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  13. Baggionero

    Baggionero Member+

    Apr 23, 2015
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    Juventus FC
    There's a youth initiative. That's clear as day. Success stories like Milan, Empoli, Sassuolo etc, on the back of Italian talent only further prove it.
     
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  14. phat

    phat Viking

    Feb 13, 2006
    Montreal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Country:
    Italy
    Are you serious?
     
  15. secretariat89

    secretariat89 Member

    Jun 10, 2009
    Manado, Indonesia
    Country:
    Italy
    Don't forget Torino and Atalanta. Torino has Barreca, Baselli, Benassi, Belotti, and recently Zappacosta starting and Atalanta has started Caldara, Conti, and Petagna together for a few weeks now including the WIN against Inter. As far as AC Milan is concern, hopefully this reliance on youngster will continue even with the change of ownership. Lets hope that this is the beginning of youth revolution in Serie A.
     
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  16. Baggionero

    Baggionero Member+

    Apr 23, 2015
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    Juventus FC
    Too many standout players for it not to continue.

    Donnarumma, Calabria and Romagnoli are a core at the back.

    Locatelli in mid. That's already 4 potential core guys that are all Italian. Recently read that Belotti is also a massive Milan fan because of Sheva. To the point he once said "even if Maradona and Sheva were playing on the field at the same time, I would only see Sheva."
     
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  17. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Moderator
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    Feb 17, 2010
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    SSC Napoli
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    Italy
    That guy is an idiot.
     
  18. world soccer magazines

    Oct 31, 2016
    Yeah he looks a prospect.
     
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  19. sempreITALIA

    sempreITALIA Member

    Feb 9, 2012
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Country:
    Italy
    Amato Ciciretti! Looks like a good player from what I have seen and Ventura seems keen on him, as well. Another young gun to keep tabs on going forward. Let it rain!
     
  20. Rosay

    Rosay Member+

    May 7, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Details? I've never even heard of him
     
  21. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    I seem to recall Ciciretti being a Roma youth product who has toiled in Serie C and B for a bit. Just looked him up. He's 22. He's a very skilled fantasista type player but doesn't score a boatload of goals...more of a set up man.

    So, Ventura is having is "youth camp" at Coverciano Nov 22nd and 23rd. This is the first time I ever remember a CT organizing a 2 day camp for young rising Italian stars. I kind of like it. It gives him a chance to see some of these guys up close and personal. Here is the list for the camp:


    Portieri: Alessio Cragno (Benevento), Marco Sportiello (Atalanta)
    Difensori: Antonio Barreca (Torino), Federico Barba (Empoli), Mattia Caldara (Atalanta), Andrea Conti (Atalanta), Federico Dimarco (Empoli), Armando Izzo (Genoa), Lorenzo Tonelli (Napoli), Francesco Zampano (Pescara)
    Centrocampisti: Danilo Cataldi (Lazio), Roberto Gagliardini (Atalanta), Alberto Grassi (Atalanta), Manuel Locatelli (Milan)
    Attaccanti esterni: Amato Ciciretti (Benevento), Marco D’Alessandro (Atalanta), Luca Garritano (Cesena), Vittorio Parigini (Chievo Verona)
    Attaccanti: Gianluca Caprari (Pescara), Roberto Inglese (Chievo Verona), Gianluca Lapadula (Milan), Andrea Petagna (Atalanta).
     
  22. Rosay

    Rosay Member+

    May 7, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Didn't Conte do the same thing if I remember correctly, organize a Italy camp for young players?
     
  23. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    yes because Conte is still calling the shots. Like I've said over and over again. Ventura is taking phone calls from conte on a lot of these decisions. All his moves are the same moves Conte made. Conte was hand picked by Carlo to coach the national team, He was never fired or left on bad terms. He simply took the job of coaching 1 of the biggest clubs in the world while getting paid a crap load of money. So don't think Conte just washed his hands of this team. Conte is still part of this coach staff behind closed doors. All you have to do is look at ventura's moves and you'll see it's basically Conte's moves being repeated.
     
  24. sempreITALIA

    sempreITALIA Member

    Feb 9, 2012
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Country:
    Italy
    #49 sempreITALIA, Nov 20, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2016
    What? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Italy has a plethora of quality attacking wingers. Are those the decisions you're talking about? Or is it just because Conte held stages too? I don't quite follow the logic or reasoning behind believing Conte still has an "invisible hand" on Ventura's team because the two manager have diametrically different approaches to football.

    Ventura is extremely well-versed in launching young talents and organizing a team that plays free-flowing attacking football (See: Every team he has ever coached). Ventura likes to play with attacking wingers. That is not necessarily Conte's approach, at all. Conte hammers tactics into his teams and positional organization in order to attack teams on the counter. Conte focuses on two-way players that are solid defensively and attack secondarily to their defensive duties. My Point: Conte's tactically obsessed/chess style is completely different than Ventura's free-flowing attacking approach.

    Conte quickly reverted to his favored 3-5-2 with the national team after briefly experimenting with a 4-3-3 and many times felt the need to play with two fullbacks as his "wingers" in the 3-5-2 (Darmian/Florenzi/De Sciglio), which effectively turns the line-up into a 5-3-2. The reason behind that is Conte's philosophy revolves around leaving nothing to the opponent spatially and hurting them on the counter. Instead, the last two games have shown that Ventura is willing to apply pressure on teams by attacking them fielding attacking players in attacking formations (e.g. 4-2-4 against Lichtenstein & 3-4-3 against Germany). (1) It's absurd to think Conte is still pulling the strings and Ventura is listening and (2) the difference in styles of play show that not to be the case.

    So now that we've established that the two coaches have different approaches to football and different tactical schemes to implement those approaches/philosophies, are we saying Conte has influence on the team because Ventura is holding stages just like he did? Seems a bit far-fetched to me.
     
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  25. Nek Sanalet

    Nek Sanalet Member+

    Dec 30, 2013
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Let me explain to you in a few short words why mikeyjames has been spouting this nonsense....Ventura picked Zaza, Immobile, and Eder over his crush Balotelli. Done. Nothing deeper than that to his stupid logic.

    The idea that Ventura is taking orders from the guy that he actually helped become a coach is absurd. Especially since Conte completely ignored Belotti, Romagnoli, and Bonaventura....and Ventura is clearly not interested in hard working second rate players like Sturaro and Giacc (who we will never see again for the national team), over skilled youngsters that can grow before the WC.

    On to more interesting news... it was great to see Belotti and Insigne score braces today to help their teams win. And like I've said before, if Sousa puts Bernardeschi in an offensive winger position instead of wingback, he does nothing but shine for his club. Doesn't matter if its on the left or the right, he will produce. I think that he can one day play alongside Berardi and Belotti, and form a truly world class front three for Italy.
     
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