YNT-eligible lower-division pro players: 2018 In-season thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Jamie, will you be doing a USYNT-eligible stat total at the end of the USL season?
     
  2. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, likely in article format this time.
     
  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently there are four parts (This four-part series will trace the history), but here are the first three:

    History of Sounders Academy Part I: Scouting and Identification
    September 17, 2018

    History of Sounders Academy Part 2: Coaching Specialization
    September 21, 2018

    History of Sounders Academy Part III: Programming and the Pathway
    October 2, 2018
     
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  4. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Look forward to it. Please post a link when you do so.
     
  5. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was this posted...

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/10/12/mls-players-are-well-represented-usls-20-under-20-rankings

    A week after MLSsoccer.com released our 22 Under 22 rankings, USLsoccer.com released their 20 Under 20. As you might expect, MLS clubs well represented on the list, with 19 of the players tied to MLS clubs.

    LA Galaxy's Efrain Alvarez topped USLsoccer.com's rankings and was No. 17 on MLSsoccer.com's 22 Under 22. Atlanta's Andrew Carleton and Sporting Kansas City's Jaylin Lindsey made both lists. Alvarez's Galaxy II teammate Ethan Zubak came in at No. 2.

    The usual suspects had the most players on the 20 Under 20: FC Dallas (3) with Jesus Ferreira, Brandon Servania and Adonijah Reid; Seattle Sounders (3), with Rodrigue Ele, Denso Ulysse and Sam Rogers; New York Red Bulls (3), with Hassan Ndam, Cristian Casseres Jr. and Ben Mines.​


    The USL list:
    https://www.uslsoccer.com/20-under-20
     
  6. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. ckajMonet

    ckajMonet Member

    Spurs
    United States
    Jun 8, 2017
  8. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    So by my count, Sounders have signed six American academy teenagers to USL deals the past few months.

    Azriel Gonzalez, M (01)
    Danny Leyva, M (03)
    Alfonso Ocampo-Chavez, F (02)
    Danny Robles, M (02)
    Rey Serrano, M, (02)
    Marlon Vargas, M (01)

    Am I missing anyone?
     
  9. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Alec Diaz, who signed alongside Robles.
     
  10. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  11. Peter Bonetti

    Peter Bonetti Member+

    Jan 1, 2005
    1970 WC Quarterfinal
    Lower division clubs that let him do things his way are Wynalda’s happy place. He has done very well at his last three lower division clubs. He is very good at working with a limited budget and he structures contracts with well thought out incentives. It will be interesting to see how he goes about building his roster.
     
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #737 Clint Eastwood, Oct 18, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2018
    This is an interesting story.

    Not only is FCD starting their USL D3 team next year, there is scuttlebutt from Mexico that FCD is starting a club team at a similar level in Monterrey. The tercera division, which is a regional league with a lot of reserve teams from the major clubs in Mexico.

    As people know, FCD has had an academy affiliate there for quite some time called FC Dallas MX.
    https://www.facebook.com/FcDallasMx/
    Perhaps this is another opportunity to loan youngsters to, particularly those that are interested in starting a club career in Mexico? You can see a Johan Gomez or Ricardo Pepi or Julian Hinajosa (the list goes on) signing with the FCD first team and then being loaned to that affiliate when they turn 18.

    Just keep working on finding opportunities for young players............................
     
  13. Sup Bro

    Sup Bro Member+

    Oct 26, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really like the idea of a MLS owned and operated reserve team in Mexico.

    Rumors always pop up about LigaMX + MLS merging, which seem far fetched, but this would be an interesting way to increase collaboration. No idea how it works logistically though.
     
  14. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like the idea, but how many pro players does Dallas think they have right now? Between the Dallas partnership, the USL League One team, and now this, I don't see how they have 40 something players ready to go underneath the first team.
     
  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #740 Clint Eastwood, Oct 18, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2018
    I don't know how it'll work. There are a whole lot of youngsters with Mexican heritage in the FCD academy. Also, let's not forget, at their other youth affiliates like FCD El Paso, FCD Rio Grande Valley, FCD Alamo, etc. And of course the idea would presumably be to promote talented youngsters from FCD MX to this squad.

    It's possible that the Mexican tercera division will actually be better than the USL D3, which will be a real work in progress for years. That's an established league dedicated to player development. Tigres, Monterrey, etc. have reserve teams in the same Group that FCD is supposedly going to be in.
     

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  16. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Reyna said that NYCFC will not be having a reserve team anytime soon. Not good for Scally and Sands. Its also not good, considering they have a pretty good academy. What will happen for Gray, Haak, Jasson, Rando, Owusu?
     
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  17. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The same thing the other good academies without their own reserve team have been doing - loaning them out or letting them practice with the starters and hope they improve that way. It's the single best thing RBNY did in establishing an early reserve club and using it to develop prospects and not worry about winning or attendance issues. Personally I'm hoping and expecting a big increase in how FCD prospects do with their reserve club adding those tweener minutes and the Bayern deal to season further. Just another example of how young MLS is really is compared to countries with 100 year old plus setups.
     
  18. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I'd like US Soccer to make having a professional reserve/second/USL/call it what you will team a requirement of first division sanctioning.
     
  19. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    If I were them, I'd be considering Red Bulls. That might present style of play issues (specifically for Haak), but if NYCFC isn't going to fully commit to it's youth, the youth shouldn't reward them with their loyalty.

    Of course, maybe there are sufficient plans in place. They were able to get Sands some USL minutes, and I would assume that they have some things in place for these kids to get professional minutes and continue their development.
     
  20. Peter Bonetti

    Peter Bonetti Member+

    Jan 1, 2005
    1970 WC Quarterfinal
    The problem with being a NYCFC prospect and switching to the Red Bulls is distance. Getting to practices and games in the New York-New Jersey-Long Island area can be a nightmare. For some, the Red Bulls might as well be in California.
     
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  21. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    Not to mention, I guess Sands and Scally have already signed with NYC... Not much they can do at this point.
     
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  22. Peter Bonetti

    Peter Bonetti Member+

    Jan 1, 2005
    1970 WC Quarterfinal
    https://www.socceramerica.com/publi...aign=20085&hashid=gQkyRnmzcImx5817_j8UkV2zFdE

    Interesting interview of Eric Wynalda about his upcoming job coaching and managing the Las Vegas Lights. I think that a lot of people in the pro game in this country could learn something from how loads contracts with incentives. Time will tell if he makes his contracts too incentive based. He certainly has been successful in the past.
     
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  23. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Ottawa just cut a bunch of players, so I guess we can expect roster news from non-playoff teams at any moment.
     
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  24. Peter Bonetti

    Peter Bonetti Member+

    Jan 1, 2005
    1970 WC Quarterfinal
    https://www.uslsoccer.com/news_article/show/962251

    The Austin Bold will already have a pro team playing in its own soccer specific stadium before an MLS team ever gets to the city of Austin. This team, unlike the MLS franchise, is doing things right. It also appears to be a really good fit for Austin, who have never shown any indication that they can support an MLS level franchise.

    I would love to see the state of Texas saturated with franchises like this one. If a franchise shows that it can be super successful, THEN upgrade it to MLS. Anthony Precourt is just interfering with a natural process.
     
  25. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Inbox:

    LANSING, Mich. – USL League One welcomed Lansing Ignite FC on Tuesday as a founding member of the new professional league, which will kick off play in 2019. Led by Majority Owner Tom Dickson, President Nick Grueser and Vice President and General Manager Jeremy Sampson, the club becomes the only professional outdoor soccer team in Michigan.​

    The team will evidently share ownership and a stadium with the Class-A Lansing Lugnuts.

    http://www.milb.com/content/page.jsp?ymd=20130228&content_id=42085626&sid=t499&vkey=team1
     
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