"Yes, the Standard Buy-Back Clause is Included" - Real Madrid Loan Watch Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by -Fifth CharM-, Sep 4, 2016.

  1. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
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    Him not being good enough has nothing to do with the pressure that comes from his last name. He's gotten this far because of his last name. Some of the errors he makes are beyond comical.
     
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  2. YOUNGSTARS87

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    Dec 21, 2005
    In Lucas case his father's name is hurting him because of hubris more than anything else.

    He does stupid things because he is arrogant. That arrogance comes from who his father is, not who he is.
     
  3. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    He gets overconfident with his ability on the ball. He is exceptional with the ball no doubt. I've watched him in 5 a side indoor games and he is very good at it. That being said he shouldn't be taking stupid risks like that on a pitch.
     
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  4. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
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    Then he shouldn't play as a keeper.
     
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  5. Akramzizou

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    Feb 13, 2006
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    He is still a youngster, he will make mistakes and mature. He is probably playing for the cameras, and tbh, just like he probably got some favors because of his name, we are probably only seeing his mistakes because of his name.
     
  6. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
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    He's doing stuff that should have been cut out years ago. At this age, your first instinct as a keeper when you get the ball at your feet isn't to wait for the forward to come so you can pull out a move for the cameras. To boot, especially not when your coach's job is already on the line.
     
  7. MaxY

    MaxY Member+

    May 24, 2016
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    He is 19 and he's making those mistakes in the 3rd league.
    Donnarumma is 18 and he's starting for Milan for the 3rd season.
     
  8. Chinky24

    Chinky24 Member+

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    Dec 26, 2004
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    FWIW, James had a good game against Schalke?
     
  9. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Definitely. Starting against Paris today. Important match for Bayern.
     
  10. S1na

    S1na Member+

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    Jun 1, 2014
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    Talent Tracker: Fede Valverde

    What’s his playing style?



    Having watched Fede very closely for the entirety of last season, I got a great chance to become familiar with his playing style. Federico is a player that will never shy away from the ball, even if he isn’t having a particularly good game. The early stages of his Uruguay debut were filled with nerves, and numerous passes were misplayed. However, he refused to back down, and ended up carving out a really good performance, which was all his own doing. He often drops deep to pick up the ball from the defenders, so he can orchestrate attacks going forward. He’s a strong runner with the ball, and is always on the lookout for pockets of space in the opposition’s half that he can drive into. He has a sound touch, and good ability to assist himself during pressured situations in tight areas. The Uruguayan’s positioning is one of his strongest attributes, as he seems to always find himself in the right place at the right time.

    Defensively, he is very switched on, to the point where many people prefer him operating in a more defensive role. I personally prefer him as a central midfielder, where he can put in a big shift defensively, but also control the game with his passing range, and contribute going forward. His passing -- although not quite as refined as current first team players Toni Kroos or Marcos Llorente -– is still of a very high standard. He’s a player that always keeps the ball moving, and during the 16/17 season, countless Castilla attacks came through him. Of course, none of the attributes mentioned would count for much if his decision-making was poor. Luckily for Madrid fans, that isn’t the case. Decision making is perhaps Federico’s specialty. He rarely plays the wrong pass, and possesses a footballing intellect far beyond his tender age.

    Last, but certainly not least, is his shooting. From long distance, he becomes a massive danger to opponents. Many of his goals come from outside of the area, but he is just as ruthless from close range. The wonder kid really is an all rounded talent, and he is one of the only players that you will see actually progress under Santiago Solari’s scandalous reign at Castilla. It is rare to see a player that is in full control of his own performance, and that has the confidence to keep demanding the ball and imposing himself on the game, especially at such a young age.


    What are his first team chances?


    His CV certainly checks out. A place in the first team for a young player at the club requires nothing more than huge strides forward in development. The progress that Fede has seen in the last two years has surely put him towards the front of the ever-growing queue. This season is significant for the youngster, and if he has a successful campaign at the Riazor, then it is highly likely he will be given a chance in the first team. Of course, luck will play a large factor. Players will have to move on from the current first team roster in order to open up a space, Madrid will then have to resist temptation to bring in a superstar in that position. Valverde will also have to watch his back as he has plenty of competition in the same boat eyeing up that potential opening. Nevertheless, in Fede Valverde, Real Madrid have a colossal talent, and I am certain that we will see him donning the famous white jersey in the near future.


    By Sam Sharpe
    Managing Madrid

    https://www.managingmadrid.com/2017/10/6/16428906/talent-tracker-fede-valverde
     
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  11. Saeta Rubia

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    May 28, 2010
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  12. Zidane05

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    Jul 18, 2005
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    What's most impressive about him is his vision. Half the time, I don't see a passing lane open for him, next thing I see is the ball is on his teammates feet. Watch that video and see how many of the passes he made were ones where you actually saw a legitimate and open passing lane for him to make the pass he makes.
     
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  13. Shay Z

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    Jan 3, 2007
    Its so gratifying to see one of our cantera kids improving in front of our eyes. Especially Odegaard because he had to endure a lot of unfair criticism at an age at which you don't really know how to deal with it. This loan to Holland has done wonders. His progression and our cantera guys have done great. Great to see how he's improved his game a whole lot and now you can finally see that the ingredients are all there for a top flight player.
     
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  14. russian hattie

    russian hattie Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
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    So true. It's a rare skill. He has great intelligence and fantastic technique. I hope continues to improve, I love players like him.
     
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  15. REALFOREVER

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    Dec 22, 2003
    There is a bit of Guti in him. Left-footed blond with vision. The way he holds/controls the ball, strikes long passes, does behind the back taconazos, keep his head up while dribbling etc.
     
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  16. RomanMadrid

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    Jan 13, 2016
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    The three players to watch from this batch are Lienhart, Valverde and Odegaard.

    Last season it was Theo, Llorente, Mayoral, Vallejo and the other Llorente.

    Next one I suppose it'll be Vinicius Jr. and Dani Gomez.
     
  17. RomanMadrid

    RomanMadrid Member+

    Jan 13, 2016
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    Faster, higher, stronger. That is Vinicius Jr's motto as he continues to wow the Flamengo backroom staff in his efforts to get physically ready for his move to Real Madrid.

    During testing for his current club, the young forward has matched the far more developed athletes in the team such as Paolo Guerrero and Diego Ribas, surprising everyone within the medical department of the Brazilian side.

    Flamengo's fitness and medical staff had not expected such improvements from Vinicius, as confirmed to MARCA, and they see his physical progression to be a perfect complement to the rapid speed that the player is innately blessed with.

    http://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2017/10/09/59da847b46163f71478b4641.html
     
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  18. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    I haven't seen anything too special about Lienhart in the times I've seen him in the preseason. Has he done well with Castilla?
     
  19. RomanMadrid

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    Jan 13, 2016
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    He plays for Augsburg and started in one of Austria's qualifiers. He's done well. I'm curious to see how well he'll do compared to Vallejo's campaign last season.
     
  20. Manchester City seems to have "scientific" research about the leagues best suited to development for young talents and according to that/those research the Dutch league is the best. I really would like to get my hands on a copy of those reports, if they really do exist.
     
  21. zeemov

    zeemov Member

    Jan 3, 2016
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    Hows mariano doing btw?
     
  22. Real__Madrid

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    Aug 29, 2014
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    He is killing it however seems he doesn't belong to this thread as Lyon issued an official statement that Real Madrid does not have a buy back clause.
     
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  23. Digital

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    Dec 10, 2012
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    Looks good in this video
     
  24. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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  25. Sparta – SC Heerenveen 0-0
    Sparta: Kortsmit 6; Holst 5,5, Breuer 6, Fischer 6, Marfelt 4 (70. Floranus -); Dougall 6,5, Sanusi 6, Spierings 5, Duarte 5 (83. Ache -); Brogno 5 (59. Goodwin 6), Mühren 5.
    SC Heerenveen: Hahn 6; Dumfries 6, Høegh 6, Naess 6, Pierie 6,5; Schaars 6, Kobayashi 6,5, Vlap 6,5 (83. Thorsby -); Ødegaard 7, Ghoochannejhad 5,5 (46. Veerman 5), Mihajlovic 5,5 (60. Rojas 5).
    Arbiter: Manschot 5
    Man of the Match: In het doelpuntloze gelijkspel tussen Sparta en SC Heerenveen toonde Martin Ødegaard bij vlagen weer eens iets van zijn vaak geroemde talent. De nog altijd pas achttienjarige Noor had op Het Kasteel een passzuiverheid van liefst 90%. Ook mede dankzij het actieve verdedigende werk van de huurling van Real Madrid noteerden de Friezen voor het eerst sinds 17 uitduels weer eens een clean sheet op vreemde bodem.

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    Martin Ødegaard (l) in duel met Deroy Duarte. © ANP Pro Shots
     
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