"Yes, the Standard Buy-Back Clause is Included" - Real Madrid Loan Watch Thread

Llorente told Sportium: 'I would never sign for Barca. Atletico Madrid are a great team, they have a spectacular squad, but right now I do not think that is a possibility.

'At Alaves I am demonstrating that I am prepared to compete at the highest level. I want to succeed at Real Madrid, but I would not like to be on the bench – even if it is at the best club in the world.'

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ZZ just need to assure him he's part of the plans and will chose whoever proves to be better between him and Casemiro.

 

Judging by his Morata and co. treatment, i doubt Llorente will be thrilled about his assurance. Simply insert a clause in contract which gives Llorente certain amount of playing time, and that is it.

 

Funnily enough that how Barca lost Thiago for less then 20ME.

I don't like that idea not should it be necessary, whoever deserves to play based on performances should play, you shouldn't need a contract clause to make sure a player is treated fairly by the coach.

 

Relationship with the coach or the club can go sour rather quickly. Contract clause is fantastic thing to mitigate that.

 

How is it fantastic? The clause is there to protect the player's interests not the clubs, if the player doesn't get the minutes that were agreed he can transfer somewhere else (assuming that's the other side of the clause as opposed to paying a fine to the player, which sours the relationship with the player really).

The last time that happened here Fabinho went from Castilla to a starter in the CL albeit a meaningless game at the time).

 

Agree with what you think ZZ should do, This player is young and has one decent season under his belt playing as a starter at Alaves, I personally don't think he is in a position to demand a starting spot at Madrid just yet, ( and that thought comes from him saying he does not want to be on the bench) running before walking IMO,

Again IMO playing for Madrid is not playing for Alaves, far higher pressure much bigger games much more to play for win or lose , he comes from the youth team yes but he has no real idea what it's like I would imagine to start for the first team on a regular basis, I am surprised he said this if it is true but I no real idea about his personality.

 

We are discussing Llorente`s interests or are we not?

 

I agree, yes, a fair opportunity, that's exactly what he should get and could have said , rather than I don't want to be on the bench, that comes across to me as , I would only go back as long as I start, no ifs and buts or fair opportunities, of course I could be wrong, I am not in his head, I'm just going off the alledged comments made,

after only one decent season as a starter at Alaves and a young player, that sounds a bit much to me, even if he is a youth product, sounds like a bit of an ultimatum and you know me, I don't think anyone should be guaranteed a starting spot ( which is what he "seems" to be getting at with a statement like that)

 

I remember Carvajal wasn't very enthusiastic when talking about Madrid return while he was in Germany. But then made "club that run through my veins" comment as soon as we signed him back. Traditionally it has been far more easier for younger players to get playing time in defense as we have seen with Carvajal, Marcelo and Varane to some extent. Casemiro isn't a Galactico and Llorente has the advantage of being a better player on the ball. If he can do a similar job defensively, no reason why he can't be a starter.

 

Agreed again, just did not get the I don't want to be on the bench statement, if you really want to play for us, the best team in the world, come back and take your chances and as you said make sure the coach gives you an idea that you are in his plans and if you perform you will get a chance, at a club like this as a young player that should be a great starting place, it's never going to be easy to just get in the team here, if it was any Tom dick or harry could just turn up and start, it's just what I think.

 

Don't see anything wrong with what he said. Just cause you love a club dearly doesn't mean you should sell yourself short. He is probably aware of the treatment Morata is receiving upon his arrival back as well and look at how that is going.

 

Not sure what the point of making these statements is.

All managers want to win, and if a player is confident in his ability, he should not need to make such statements to the press, but should only need to concentrate on showing it on the training ground once he has joined the team. After that, if he's a big enough improvement on the starter, the manager would definitely replace him, otherwise he would probably be rotated. Of course, if there is any perceived injustice, there are always other doors open for young talented players.

Also if Morata's case is indeed the gold standard in terms of bad treatment of returning youth products, then Llorente would still be playing around 1200 minutes next season (come mid April), which would be exactly half of what he's managed this season for Alaves, where he is the undisputed starter. A not exactly bad return for the worst case scenario, considering that Llorente would have moved to playing for Real Madrid from Alaves.

 

We just need to plan these moves out. If we have relationship with clubs where these players can develop, get playing time and an appreciation for being on our radar that'd be pretty great. Sitting on our bench or not even making the call up week in and out has its limits.