Yelling At Our Players

Discussion in 'USA Men: Fans & Travel' started by SamsArmySam, Jun 13, 2016.

  1. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    Just got back from a fantastic couple of games. USA v Costa Rica in Chicago and USA v Paraguay in Philly. First time sitting in the AO section (both games).

    Loved the support. Loved the energy. Loved standing the whole game. Respect that we did not boo the opponent's national anthem.

    Something that grated on me was when our own AO fans at times yelled out loudly in criticism of OUR players. The big critiques in BigSoccer land right now are Bradley's mistakes (the occasional missed pass) and Gyasi's first touch, and I heard these coming from the stands. "Come on, Bradley!" "Dammit, Gyasi!" Not everyone. But it happened. More than once. From more than a few people.

    There's no place for that. Those players are busting their asses out there. They know when they made a mistake. And yes, they can hear you.

    Vast majority of the American Outlaws, no problem. But if the dude next to you is one of the handful who does that shit, it's on you to tell them to knock it off.

    Unite and rally! On to Seattle!
     
  2. Real Corona

    Real Corona Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mean, this is kind of a universal thing in multiple sports.
     
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  3. DurtyGooch

    DurtyGooch Member

    Jul 8, 2015
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    really don't see any problem here
     
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  4. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All the cool kids do it.
     
  5. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Come on man. We all get frustrated with bad plays. We get in the moment. Its not all cheery and positive. Is starting loud, organized chants denigrating a player a good call? Probably not. But expressing frustration in the moment (which is highly likely to go unheard by the player) is part of being a passionate spectator.
     
  6. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    So to recap we have...

    It's all unicorns and rainbows for 90 minutes
    Player screws up - it happens, it's frustrating, but we move on
    Player screws up - groan
    Player screws up - you yell out, "Gyasi you suck!" during the silence after a broken play
    Players screw up - we all yell out "Gyasi sucks" clap clap clap-clap-clap (repeat)

    So this is where you draw the line. I draw it one line higher.

    I didn't specify in the OP, but people were yelling out their vitriol toward our players at the top of their lungs. It's childish and counterproductive.
     
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  7. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Childish behavior in AO section? Never!!!!! Well, maybe some of the time. If they follow it up with an "I believe!" chant, it is all good.
     
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  8. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Seriously? 'Come on Bradley and a Dammit, Gyasi' is too confrontational to yell at a game where you're passionate and emotionally invested in a team representing your country. You know they can't hear them, and its not personal.
     
  9. Real Corona

    Real Corona Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would draw the line at an organized chant of Zardes sucks or whoever.
     
  10. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    Peace to my passionate and emotionally invested brothers in arms.

    Do us proud, Seattle.
     
  11. owian

    owian Member+

    May 17, 2002
    San Diego
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If it's in the heat of the moment I understand. We have all said/ screamed/posted online embarrassing things when we are caught up in the emotion of the game. But I do agree there is a line. Screaming out as loud as you can in a quiet moment well removed from a specific incident for me that crosses the line.
     
  12. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    My issue with the OP is the manufactured Sams Army issue against AO. Sorry but I just disagree. To claim that "AO is against a player" couldn't be farther from the truth.

    Are fans mad at some players. Of course they are. Does it have anything to do with AO? Absolutely not.
     
  13. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OP said some in AO section, not AO in entirety. Just asking folks in section to police. Don't see anything wrong with that.
     
  14. Cowtown Felipe

    Cowtown Felipe Member+

    Mar 12, 2012
    Fort Worth, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For all the $ you pay to go to these games, you should be able to yell almost anything you want.
    I think you should be able to yell at your own players if you think they're playing stupidly or not giving a good effort. I'd bet their coaches and teammates occasionally do.
     
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  15. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can yell anything you want. Just kind of weird when it gets excessive from people in a supporter section.
     
  16. Real Corona

    Real Corona Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're allowed to yell just about whatever you want. It's just like that some things you yell might make you a dick and some things might not.
     
  17. Real Corona

    Real Corona Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude at the game last night yelled Bobby Wood's name every 30 seconds. Actually couldn't even pronounce his name properly calling him Bobby Dig or something.


    Now that was weird.
     
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  18. tio_sam

    tio_sam Member

    Jul 28, 2009
    Chicago
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a men's competition. These aren't children so barring any organized chants or personal attacks on family/lifestyle/race etc their is nothing wrong with verbally criticizing a poor performance in the moment. I doubt the players are getting their feelings hurt by this. And if they are we have other problems.
     
  19. Cowtown Felipe

    Cowtown Felipe Member+

    Mar 12, 2012
    Fort Worth, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Women will not have gained true equality in this world until I can yell "You suck!" at a professional woman athlete and not feel bad about it.
     
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  20. Cool Hand Luke

    Cool Hand Luke Member+

    Aug 13, 2008
    Austin Texas
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That stuff is fine, good even. The supporters section should be getting on players asses when they perform poorly. That's half of their responsibility. If they forgo that responsibility then they are little more than cheerleaders.

    fan ≠ cheerleader
     
  21. shinpath

    shinpath Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Shanghai, PR China
    Club:
    --other--
    Sometimes, when the whole team is playing listlessly, I want to sing the old punk rock song from the Clash:
    "I'm So Bored With the U.S.A."
     
  22. Cowtown Felipe

    Cowtown Felipe Member+

    Mar 12, 2012
    Fort Worth, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Done that in a bar with friends. Alleviates the boredom.
     
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  23. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who gets to decide what is appropriate? Once I was at a Galaxy game, and some dude with his 17 year old daughter tried to get me crap for using the F word loudly. Not even directed at a specific player, more like "Get the f'n ball man!" But quite simply he did not understand the section he was in. It was the fan's section, and within 30 second the entire section started chanting, "Hey Dempsey, F You!" And this shut him up.

    We sit in the fans sections because we like to get rowdy and have a good time. It it not necessarily meant to be a family atmosphere--it is adult time. So long as nothing truly derogatory (racial abuse etc.) is said, there should be considerable leeway as to crude comments. Especially when they are funny.
     
  24. Real Corona

    Real Corona Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    F word in a sports environment seems pretty mundane but maybe I've just been to too many stadiums.
     
  25. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    You can be an adult without swearing though.
    I know many adults who do not swear. Especially in public.
     

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