Rumor: Yea or Ney-mar - The 2019-20 Transfer thread

Rafinha ain't starting here but he'd be a useful player for tournaments.

 

Not sure if this belongs here.. but I really want to get some answers..

I'm a big Barca fan and I've been following them since the first Pep season, where the team set the bar so high, not just in terms of trophies, but also in terms of amazing play and philosophy.

Barca has changed since then. And this was most highlighted with the Neymar transfer saga. (First by actually targeting him, and second by failing to get him.) But before that: Barca is no longer bringing their talents through La Masia. Their style of play has become worse and worse, and they often just rely on Messi to save the day.

What happened? Is it Bartomeu vs Laporta? Is it that Messi is imposing his will on hired personnel and transfers? Is it just not that big of a deal and it's just a couple of bad years with Valerde as coach??

Would love to get your opinions.

 

This all makes a lot of sense. But with its might and money Barca has been bringing the best talents and adding them to the best player, and some other candidates for best players in their positions. Yet, with all this talent, I feel the team spirit has disappeared on the pitch. The plan is becoming "give the ball to Messi." And off the pitch, decisions are being made that seem very haphazard.

I don't know.. This is just how it looks to me, who likes the team but doesn't follow its news as closely as some here may.

 

@celito great summary man

 

https://www.sport-english.com/en/ne...d-sad--angry-at-failed-barca-transfer-7617508

As much as I was not a fan of our going after Neymar due to (1) him leaving us in the lurch once already, his dad, drama, injuries, etc.; and (2) dealing with PSG and leaving our own club unsettled till the end of deadline, especially unsettling players whom we offered in exchange, etc. and (3) and finally we already signed Griezmann and still have M-S-D plus G even after C left for Bayern, so not really a piriority; and (4) we need to get finances in order and rebuild Camp Nou not borrow money to pay for a guy whose 222 we already spent on Dembele and Coutinho.

All that said, this really enlightened me about PSG punishing him (like a Qatari guest worker, albeit a multi-millionaire one), if it is in fact true he is free to leave for 170M next summer.

 

Expanding on this a bit, if we remove Messi and add in Puyol, those players didn’t just help bring success to Barca but were also key ingredients in Spain dominating international tournaments (along with Casillas, Ramos, Villa and Torres).
Not only have Barca ‘suffered’ since those players left but so too have Spain.

 

And had Messi decided to play for Spain (where he moved when he was 13) instead of staying true to his birth country and representing Argentina then Spain would have likely won even more internationally. And we could put to rest the argument that Messi cannot be the GOAT since Argentina has "only" won the Olympic gold and made a World Cup final and a couple Copa America finals with Messi.

 

We should go all out for Mbappe. ******** Neymar for creating another drama.

 

fascinating. now he's trying to force his way back?

"Neymar was only willing to forgo the €26 million bonus on one condition in the end: that the club put in writing that they would sign him in the future."

 

Time for an ugly win. Haven’t had one of those in a while.

 

Damn, that was a rough fall by Griezmann.

 

Ha!

 

Great post man. Indeed Barca were at a certain point in 2003 that they needed money and they were even thinking of selling Puyol and Xavi. From that point today we have kept Puyol and Xavi making them legends of the game and the club. We had Iniesta,Messi, Pique and Busquets also doing the same. Since 2013 we have been anti cruyffistas. Now in 2020 we are again on the brink of a turn around. We can't become pure cruyffistas because Man City has taken that space. But we need the Xavi era now. For that Barca have to fail spectacularly in 2020 for a massive clear out, elections and changes. And we ll emerge very strong out of it.

 

Suarez is done and Messi is pretty much on the brink. In 2022 after the world cup, he is likely to leave Barca. So we need the best talent in the world. Griezzman at 120 mio is a great replacement for Suarez. Neymar is the only possible replacement I can imagine for Messi. Coutinho will fend for himself at bayern and will get signed also next summer. That leaves us with Dembele, if FIFA is going to set a price for Neymar at 170,I ll happily take it. But Dembele must go to PSG. Whether he goes for 100 mio or 70 mio depends on this year. Letting Suarez, Rakitic and Pique and Busquets stop being automatic starters will be the biggest thing in the summer 2020.

 

2022 a bit late for Neymar, no? A good replacement for Messi? Perhaps. But for one season.

 

Forget about Neymar. We should sign Mbappe

 

nah. that boy loves madrid

 

Looks like we were lucky missing out on De Ligt !?

He was atrocious tonight ( again).. gave the ball away in a dangerous position after 39 seconds and was caught woefully out of position after 1 minute 39 seconds !! ( I thought he was Roberto for a moment )

Constantly out of position, targeted by Belarus and slaughtered by the pundits throughout .

He left his man which meant VVD had to mark TWO players when they scored ..

Maybe he should have joined Barca at least he’d have FDJ as a crutch

 

He's just low on confidence. Might still turn into a great defender, and might not have struggled so much at Barca where he wouldn't have been a regular starter right away like at Holland and Juve. But yeah... wasn't worth getting into a bidding war with a 19 year-old that wasn't all that proven.

 

Firmino is the guy we need ... part ex Suarez for him and our future is rosy for a few years ..