YAs at Club Tijuana

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  1. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Victor Ramirez is now unregistered.
     
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  2. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ruben Gonzalez is not registered, either.
     
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  3. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Other seemingly former Tijuana youth players:

    Franco Mestre
    Raul Rodriguez
    Lorenzo Ramirez

    All unregistered.

    Samuel Velazquez, who moved back to the US and played for Nomads in the DA in 2015-16, is now back with Tijuana and playing for their Segunda Division team.

    Unfortunately Velazquez, the Segunda Division teams are the prospect version of the Land that God Forgot.
     
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  4. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just wanted to add a note that Xolos has gone from this incredible flow of information and youth rosters to El Zippo. Guess they changed the way they do their social media.

    It's much harder to know what's going on there than last season.
     
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  5. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  7. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Two former YAs at Tijuana got MLS contracts today. Brandon Vazquez moved to Atlanta and Adrian Zendejas was bumped up from SKC's USL team to an MLS contract.
     
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  8. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's the point of spending a year or two in Mexican youth sides if you're just going to end up back in the States? I think historically we do considerably better at developing our own talent than Mexico does ours, and it's part the style clash, part culture shock, and part vested interest. All things near equal, they'll show more faith in Mexican players and give them longer leashes. Our players who develop in the U.S. and then move to Mexico, have discernibly better track records. The former USS technical director wanted to push Mexican development over American, but it ignored history for our guys. It was solely a preconceived notion and superficial theory.

    The only merit I saw in going to Tijuana over LA previous for SoCal players was the Galaxy's reluctance to integrate youth players under Bruce. But now that he's gone, things may be handled differently there. More of those guys would be better served staying close to home, and after Vasquez was productive with Tijuana u-17's but stagnated in their system, I think this is a good move for him. Vasquez and Carleton both w/ Atlanta - that team should be an interesting follow when they're incorporated. Hopefully they at least make benches this upcoming season. They are still both quite young.
     
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  9. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well the point is there is no MLS team or even USL/NASL team in SD. So why drive up to LA when you can go across the border in about an hour?

    Plus, TJ is taking a very bi-national approach. They don't care if you are American/Mexican or Ghanian they will play you if you are good.
     
  10. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I assume they're not living at home still, and commuting to Tijuana. It's a reasonable drive for parents either way, it's not the top priority, and they should have plenty of visibility for the LA area teams. That's especially going to be the case with a 2nd LA team on the horizon. Many are going to clubs further away from the border than Tijuana anyway. It's a cultural thing to some degree.

    For whatever explanation one can come up with, our players don't seem like they are doing well developing in Mexico. It's been a bit of a black hole, from a national team standpoint. And I'm not counting players who were just tried. It's been many years since one legitimately developed in Mexico has been an asset. If you're going to go abroad, it might as well be to a decent or better league's club's reserve team in Europe, provided they've noticed you.
     
  11. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    TJ is taking a very import-South-American players approach. Only about 31% of their Apertura minutes went to Mexican or American players and about 5/6 of those minutes went to veterans.

    Young players of any origin are not getting many opportunities there. Arriola was available all season and managed to play 147 minutes.
     
  12. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I meant in general. Even if they are recruiting for just roster fill they are actively searching here in so cal and actively marketing in SD/OC/IE
     
  13. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Scored again:
     
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  15. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think Carlo Chavez has his own thread. He played sparingly this past fall and is now listed as unregistered. A few years ago, he started regularly and often captained Tijuana's U20 team, but he never played much at the U20 level.
     
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  16. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another threadless player is Jonathan Esparza, a '99 defender who was a regular starter for the U17 team during the Apertura. He also got one appearance for the U20s. He's currently listed as unregistered. It seems a little surprising that Tijuana would cut a player with that profile loose, but the Liga MX database can get a little wonky during the offseason. I wouldn't be shocked to see that he's still with Tijuana after all when the Clausura starts up again.
     
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  17. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A lot of Xolos in this U18 squad:

    Roster by Position:
    GOALKEEPERS (3): Eric Lopez (LA Galaxy; Los Angeles, Calif.), Trey Muse (Seattle Sounders; Tukwila, Wash.), Alec Smir (NC Fusion; Greensboro, N.C.)
    DEFENDERS (10): Jose Alfaro (Chicago Fire: West Chicago, Ill.), Jonathon Esparza (Club Tijuana; Chula Vista, Calif.), Daniel Jones (New England Revolution Academy; West Hartford, Conn.), Jack Maher (Scott Gallagher; Caseyville, Ill.), Mark McKenzie (Philadelphia Union; Bear, Del.), Jake Morris (Seattle Sounders; Kirkland, Wash.), Stirling Russell (Seattle Sounders; Bellevue, Wash.), Aedan Stanley (St. Louis Scott Gallagher SC; Columbia, Ill.), Angel Uribe (Club Tijuana; San Diego, Calif), Aristotle Zarris ( LA Galaxy; Casa Grande, Ariz.)
    MIDFIELDERS (7): Abdi Faris (IMG Academy; Bradenton, Fla.), Christian Cappis (Texans SC Houston; Katy, Texas), Jose Carranza (D.C. United; Manassas, Va.), Andrew Paoli (San Jose Earthquakes; San Jose, Calif.), Brian Perez (Club Tijuana; San Diego, Calif.), Brandon Servania (FC Dallas; Brimingham, Ala.), Noah Verhoeven (Vancouver Whitecaps; Surrey, B.C)
    FORWARDS (8): Shaft Brewer (FC Dallas; Sacramento, Calif.), Griffen Dorsey (Colorado Rush; Evergreen, Colo.), Ernesto Espinoza (Club Tijuana; Chula Vista, Calif.), Will Inalien (Portland Timbers; Taramac, Fla.), Justin McMaster (Philadelphia Union; King of Prussia, Pa.), Alfred Perez (Weston FC; Miami, Fla.), Emanuel Perez (CASL; Garner, N.C.), Justin Rennicks (New England Revolution Academy; Hamilton, Mass.)

    http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/201...m-jan-23-30-in-bradenton#.WIZJ4v5Krdg.twitter
     
  18. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Played a 1st team friendly against LA Galaxy:

    Club Tijuana
    : Luis Michel (Dilan Nicoletti 66’), John Requejo (Angel Uribe 89’), Hiram Munoz, Juan Carlos Nunez (Luis Martinez 80’), Matias Pizano (Ramon Ceja 89’), Pablo Meza (Amando Moreno 58’), Carlos Vargas, Juan Carlos Medina (Adrian Ramos 63’), Luis Chavez (Antonio Nava 86’), Jorge Alberto Ortiz, Henry Martin (Daniel Lopez 86’)

    http://www.lagalaxy.com/post/2017/0...axy-open-preseason-play-1-1-draw-club-tijuana
     
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  20. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I count at least 3 yanks and maybe 5 (Are Nava and Martin yanks?)
     
  21. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For sure Requejo, Uribe, Moreno, Nava. Not sure on any others. Since Xolos stopped tweeting their youth XIs, it's really hard to keep up.
     
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  22. BTL97

    BTL97 Member

    Apr 25, 2014
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know about Nava, but I know Henry Martin is definitely 100% Mexican
     
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  23. Danny Woodhead

    Jul 12, 2015
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Cape Cod Crusaders
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  24. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  25. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They've done well in San Diego, don't see them stopping anytime soon
     

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