Yanks on Foreign YNTs (1997 and later)

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Apr 15, 2016.

  1. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Shrug. I think its possible that Balogun was honest with the USSF. That he told them he's provisionally cap-tied to England, and that's his "Plan A." Then the US decided to invite him to the meaningless tournament anyway. Just as a way to confirm their future interest. Just a recruiting trip. And there really was nothing to lose for Balogun to attend the event and gain experience.

    I'm with @Ger90 on this one. There's very little chance that the kid uses his one-time switch right now to play for the US in this cycle's U20 events (or even the upcoming Olympic qualifying cycle).
     
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  3. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Abraham Romero, Alex Zendejas, and Ivan Gutierrez all left off the latest Mexico U21 squad. And Edwin Lara and Antonio Nava left off the Mexico U20s. All of them have been playing regularly in the 2018 Apertura at some level except Gutierrez (who has some history of injuries), so I don't think it's due to injury for most of them.
     
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  4. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    The grass isn't always mas verde on the other side (of the border).
     
  5. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
     
  6. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His competitive record in UEFA with the U17s:

    https://www.uefa.com/under17/season=2018/teams/player=250108997/index.html
     
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  7. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Niko Hamalainen started for Finland U21 in a loss to Denmark in a 2019 Euro qualifying match. He's still very much in their plans and is provisionally cap-tied, and as a young left back, is not likely to suddenly be left out of them.
     
  8. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For whatever it's worth, Edwin Lara now has a US but not Mexico flag in his Instagram bio and has Pulisic and Weah among his most recent follow choices. He likely won't be switching back soon, as he's provisionally cap-tied, but he obviously feels partially American and it can't be lost on him that Mexico has not called him up in a while.
     
  10. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    It's a moot point till he starts getting first-team minutes somewhere.

    That said, I'd take him back in a heartbeat.
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
  12. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
  13. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Maybe we are trading him for Tillman brothers? Please?
     
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  14. Danny Woodhead

    Jul 12, 2015
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Cape Cod Crusaders
    We've done this with Nebiyou Perry and, very recently, with Folarin Balogun.
     
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  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Sure. We even called up Julian Green to a full USMNT camp to help him make a decision on whether to switch. A recruiting exercise.
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    since no one's done it for the German-Americans at the last Internationals or recent.

    97-Klinsmann as posted above was in a U15-U20 GK camp this week
    98-Sidney Friede wasn't called up anywhere as he's been injured for awhile
    99-Timothy Tillman made the "on call" list for the German U20s, plenty of players made that list. My guess is that he and the others wanted to focus on their club football over meaningless games. During that time he played friendlies with the 1st team of FCN. Although was later on sent to FCNII to get match practice over roting on the bench.
    00-Maurice Malone scored 1 in 2 games and played 128 minutes for the German U19.
    01-U18s DNP in Sept
    02-Played 3 games in U17 a 4 tournament friendly.
    -Rumored German-American Christopher Scott played 3/3 games and something like 140 minutes.
    -Malik Tillman played 3/3 games and what amounted to 215 minutes as well as captaining the the team in the last game in a 2-2 draw vs Italy were we lead 2-0 until throwing the game and the defense sleeping to tie it 2-2. Draw meant Germany U17 ended up 2nd while Italy's last minute goal meant they won the tournament friendly.
     
  17. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also Fernando Alvarez of Pachuca, who has one callup with the US U14s but has since been a Mexico U16 regular.
     
  19. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    Pepi needs to make a choice. None of this switching every month. He's not good enough that he can hold up both programs.

    Its not just Pepi either. I dislike when any players do this. Barragan did this earlier in the cycle.
     
  20. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    '02 Santos Laguna forward Santiago Munoz was a late callup to Mexico U17s, his first international callup. He wasn't initially listed on the roster. His Instagram confirms he's already training with them.
     
  21. Runhard

    Runhard Member+

    Barcelona
    United States
    Jul 5, 2018
    I tend to be a little more liberal on this when the kids are this age. If Pepi wants to try out both teams, let him find what suits him best and then decide by U20 if he is still getting call ups. I think Pepi should be more frustrated with FCD and the fact they are playing Rezdic and Sealy on the 19s over him and he is clearly better than both of them. As long as the US keeps calling him to US camps, they have done their duty.
     
  22. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    We shouldn't let teenage players jump back and forth between countries. Neither should other countries. They should go first.
     
  23. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #748 Clint Eastwood, Sep 25, 2018
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2018
    Yup.

    And if a kid is going to jump back and forth to gauge where he fits best, the U16s is a fine group to do it with. This isn't the U17s or U20s that are preparing for important tournaments. These are "casting the net" teams. I mean, Pepi is a 2003. He's a young'un (even though his physical stature makes him appear older than that).

    My gut feeling is that by the end of the season, Pepi will have gotten playing time with the U19s. When the FCD USL team starts up in the spring (presumably), the whole pack is going to be shuffled. Some of the older forwards like Johan Gomez and Gibran Rayo will see time with the D3 team............leading to openings on a week to week basis for Pepi on the U19s.
     
  24. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    00-Giona Leibold was called up for a U19 perspective course. No U19 regular or even semi-regular player is part of this course. No games in Oct.
    02-Malik Tillman and Christopher Scott make the U17 squad that will play double friendlies vs Denmark.
     
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