Yanks Abroad Flavors of the Week, 2015-16 Edition [R: includes results from many matches]

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  1. ShadowMoses2

    ShadowMoses2 Member

    Aug 24, 2015
    Austin, Tx
    that's not just some english announcer guy, that's Alan Smith! he's like the most classic EPL commentating voice
     
  2. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll bet on Bobby in terms of overall goals in the Bundesliga. Would love for both of them to hit double digits too.
     
  3. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kitchen kinda is part of the NT picture.
    Boss seems to be the only one who has really failed. Some of the injured guys might end up being failures too.
    Many of them are solid squad players in MLS or other leagues.
     
  4. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fabian Johnson starts for BMG, Green on the bench for Bayern in the champions league today.

    Still not sure why these monchengladbach fellows insist on playing a left back as an attacker...
     
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  5. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Don't understand it either, but that game was postponed.
     
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  6. TurdFerguson

    TurdFerguson Member

    Jan 11, 2013
    Houston
    Manchester is under water. Game has been postponed.
     
  7. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup. as I posted I got a nice shot the empty stadium being drowned. If anyone could afford a retractable roof it should be Citeh.
     
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  8. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Opportunity for Green to get into a game and demonstrate he deserves more playing time. Fingers crossed.....................

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Did he mention any MLS guys?
     
  10. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I see Jozy mentioned. Doesn't it show up on your screen?
     
  11. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Never understood Boss's move to Portugal. He had been there and had not impressed anyone, to the point that he didn't play a single minute. Then, another Portuguese club offered him a contract, to once again never play him. I don't think he ever even trained with their first team, he got shipped to Sweden right away.

    The whole thing was a bit weird.
     
  12. PANDEMONEUM

    PANDEMONEUM Member

    Aug 30, 2011
    Club:
    Asteras Tripolis
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Daniel Williams 90 for Reading

    *

    Yedlin subbed IN at the 74th min

    but for a Forward.
    dont know what the formation looked like.

    NewC. was up 5-0 at that point.
    maybe they had him somewhere other than RFB.
     
  13. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    No, Klinsi mentions a class of long term injured people that he says he is waiting for even as they have not played in a long time.

    We have players that are injured a bit longer than we thought. We feel for them, but we are also waiting for them, players like Terrence Boyd, like Joe Gyau, like Josh Gatt, or even Aron Johannsson out for a couple months. These players are not forgotten. They play a wider role in building our group, our core, for 2018 in Russia. So hopefully they get back on track as quickly as possible.
     
  14. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Youtube: Jimmy Dore, Secular Talk
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's an underwhelming list, but you're kind of employing circular logic here. You're ajudging them all to not be NT material, in part because Klinsmann didn't try to integrate some at the appropriate times. That is the case w/ Lletget and Kitchen. It's arguably been with Rowe. It was the case w/ Agudelo leading up to the WC and during, when he was in the Netherlands. Okugo could have been tried in the couple years in MLS when he was a rising star, before it faded. The perception and/or reality of their careers could be different if better decisions had been made by the nt manager, Klinsmann. He certainly likes to take credit for Wood's career, and how it would have turned out differently if he didn't give him the nt boost, even though he had upward mobility in the system he was in. What's he trying to do with Stanko, the same thing? Is he nt material, just because he was called up to the nt out of the blue, while players standing out more arguably in better leagues remained out in the cold? Regardless if he's a useful USNT'er w/in the next couple of years of Jurgen's tenure, and they're not, I don't think that's the case. Jurgen controls almost all of perception and some of reality in this situation.

    Then you can branch out to players on that '12 u-23 Olympic qualifying squad such as Hamid and Villafana. Clearly they've warranted a ton more call-ups then they've received. But they didn't get them because they went through MLS and were part of said lost generation, scapegoated for the team's overall performance, because Klinsmann likes to look at players as groups rather than individual, and in many cases even has an inexplicable idea of which group he believes to be better.

    It's a lost generation of management just as much as it's a lost generation of players.
     
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  15. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And right after that it goes on to say, "But in the short run, like a hamstring with Jozy, we will manage it, we will make the best out of it, but it has an effect on the roster. There’s no doubt about it.”
     
  16. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    He says Boyd, Gyau, Gatt and Johannsson are his core for Russia 2018. Jozy is brought up as a contrast because he is only short term injured and therefore he can "manage", he says.
     
  17. PhillyandBCEagles

    Jul 9, 2012
    NC
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Don't understand how Williams isn't getting more of a look from Klinsmann.
     
  18. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    O come on. Your reaching. He says play a wider part first. He's not saying their a lock to be part of the core. And you if you don't think Jozy will be part of the core your crazy. JK made him one of his captains. You can dislike JK all you want, God knows I do but come on your reaching big time on this one. Helping coordinate 4 players who are in or close to Germany meet up to rehab together is a nice thing to do. Rehabbing is tough enough as is. Having people there with you to help you is important. Adding the fact that they're not only trying to get back on for club but would all like to make their way back to the national team is a good common goal to help them push eachother.
     
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  19. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    And Spector 90 for the other side.
     
  20. DeAndresHaircut

    DeAndresHaircut Member+

    Jul 24, 2015
    Pennsylvania
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's been fairly indifferent for the Nats sadly. I like him as a player though, his role with Reading is pretty much what JJ has done for us... I just wish he could replicate it in a US shirt.

    Same deal with Morales.
     
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  21. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's not used as a 6. Which he has the qualities for and little depth there. He's used as an 8 and we have a lot of 8's.
     
  22. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When Williams played as a 6 for the USMNT, he was very strong when he got into a tackle but he would get lost positionally. He passing was also was good as a 6. But, the positioning was a big problem and is probably why he is playing as an 8, imo.
     
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  23. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed both have been severally average, although I think Williams has been better than Morales. Klinsmann just doesn't rate them.

    "But they are German Americans and taking all the callups!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
     
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  24. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Should we get a MOD to update the title of this thread. We should of created a new 16-17 one for this "season".
     
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  25. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yo, someone tell Jurgen we had two wingers starting in away UCL matches today yet he's never started them together on the wings for the NT.

    One of my biggest criticisms of Jurgen is his failure to start Fabulous and Hershey's Finest across one another in the attack.
     

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