Wynalda wants MLS to change it's season to match rest of world...

Discussion in 'MLS: Commissioner - You be The Don' started by Coyote89, Nov 20, 2017.

  1. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Just saw this thread and wanted to point out something. The Finnish, Swedish, and Norwegian First Divisions had 44 teams combined in the '17 season. 24 of those teams played on artificial turf last year according to Wikipedia (Sweden: 9, Finland: 6, Norway: 9). So there has been a bigger push in those leagues to use artificial surfaces.
     
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  2. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While that's true, my reply was to a previous poster's contention that winter weather automatically makes grass unplayable. But even in Scandinavia, I think it's more the wet weather rather than the winter weather that makes artificial surfaces more interesting to the teams involved.
     
  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In shorts I hope.
     
  4. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depends on the weather. I prefer shorts so if it's above freezing, I'll go in shorts but if it's snowing or below freezing, I wear long pants.
     
  5. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty sure @The Franchise was being sarcastic with that post.

    It will be interesting to see the numbers reported and the numbers actually in the stands for the TFC-Colorado CCL series in late Feb.
     
  6. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When I woke up this morning to 12 degree weather, the first thing I thought was "man, I wish I had a DC United game to go to this weekend."
     
  7. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh duh. I think my sarcasm meter might be on the fritz lately. Too much Christmas cheer, etc.
     
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  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, don't see any league schedules on that
     
  10. When Saturday Comes

    Apr 9, 2012
    Calgary
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    My guess is 12k-15k actual fans in Toronto for the second leg. What's your guess for leg one?
     
  11. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    5K, if we're lucky
     
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  12. jmplautz

    jmplautz Member

    Jul 28, 2007
    Madison
    January and February in Chicago and Minnesota will make the cow pastures of Central America seem like old Trafford in comparison. It would be really rough going. The quality of the play would be really deminished.

    If it made real financial sense to play in the winter, MLS would be. It doesn't. So, they don't.
     
  13. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunately, when you are man on a mission to bring US soccer out of the stone age of a summer schedule into the light of a enlightened European winter schedule, financial considerations are very low on your list of reasons to not do something.
     
  14. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We'd need a 3 month break like Russia. It's -10 Celsius in New York City today,
     
  15. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And, at that point, you might as well be on a spring-fall schedule.....
     
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  16. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which I wasn't arguing. I think a winter schedule is foolish. My point was simply that a winter schedule does not automatically require a plastic surface as a previous poster implied.
     
  17. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are all on a summer schedule.
     
  18. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're correct. Moldova changed to having its season within one year also.
     
  19. jmplautz

    jmplautz Member

    Jul 28, 2007
    Madison
    I won't say it would require turf, but the amount of money and effort to keep a field playable in the winter would be ridiculous. A three game week would destroy a field. Having watched many winter games being played at Lambeau, which has the heating elements under the field. The field would not have been usable for soccer.
     
  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wynalda introduces pro/rel, "FIFA calendar", abolishes single-entity and payroll controls to appease EPL, BL and La Liga fans.

    EPL, BL and La Liga fans express delight but cut short celebrations as they have to get up early to watch EPL, BL and La Liga games.
     
  21. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Given the "cyclone bomb" working it's way towards the East Coast, a winter schedule would probably include an indoor stadium.
     
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  22. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That and the WCQ in Colorado a while back that was played in a heavy snow storm. Wynalda should know better.
     
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  23. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the two snowbowls that RSL have played in, last years win against Vancouver and the Fiji National team game in 2007 when RSL still played at the University of Utah. Both games were played in the balmy weather of April.
     
  24. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, April's well within the season no matter which way you go--fall-winter-spring or spring-summer-fall season.
     
  25. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But having snow games at the start of the season when you know that you've already gone thru winter and the weather will be getting better are different from snow games when you know that you still have two or more months of winter to go thru.
     
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