WWC19 USA v THAILAND June 11, pre/pbp/post

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by McSkillz, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Stevie Blue

    Stevie Blue Member

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Aug 10, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I posted this in another thread, but since you are still going here, I thought it would fit here as well.


    And then there is this little inconvenient truth................................

    Thailand Women's National Team beat Indonesia 13-0 in a friendly and Cambodia 11-0 in the AFF Women's Championship last year.

    Here is a link to the video. You can be the judge if Thailand celebrates appropriately for your liking.

    https://www.foxsportsasia.com/football/asian-football/aff-womens-championship/908757/thailand-vs-cambodia/
     
  2. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Well, if that's their message, they calculated weirdly, because almost no one who knows soccer and is disappointed with their antics has invoked anything like the "polite little girls" argument.

    I cannot imagine that watching that was actually fun for anyone who has played the game. Even the pretense of competition is preferable to that.
     
  3. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Your post is just as useless here as it was there, so I'll ask the same question:

    What bearing do different people in a vastly different situation have on this particular instance?
     
  4. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, I'm quite confident the U.S. women on the bench were watching and enjoyed it, and I *think* it's safe to say they "have played the game".
     
  5. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I've played in games like that. They suck. You just want it to be over with. Get a few goals and be done.
     
  6. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait - are you arguing that the U.S. women themselves weren't having fun? Is that your position? Bold.
     
  7. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I'm saying I wasn't having fun watching it, and I probably would have been mostly unenthused playing in it, wondering if we'd have any challenge at all (then worrying if this supremely uncompetitive game was going to ******** with the mentality of the team when an actual challenge presented itself).

    Alas, I've spent most of my 36ish years playing the game as a defender, and maybe it's that defenders are more prone to worrying about such things?
     
  8. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But before you were saying *anyone* who has played soccer could not have fun watching it. Not to belabor the obvious, but that's a lot more than just you. And yes *many* (maybe even most) others who have played soccer did not enjoy it.
    I acknowledge that.
    Will you acknowledge that many did?
     
  9. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I said I couldn't imagine it - that's a different thing.

    I mean, some people watch bum fights on YouTube.

    Of course. I just have a hard time UNDERSTANDING the idea of enjoying something that awful and uncompetitive.

    Just like I have a hard time understanding people watching bum fights, or people who enjoy snuff films, or watching an uncontested race heat, or any of a number of things.
     
  10. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is beyond rude. Go screw yourself.
     
  11. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I don't have the plumbing for that.

    On a different note, how is it "rude"? Surely, analogies are not "rude".
     
  12. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't be disingenuous. You equated everyone who disagrees with you with snuff film viewers. Be honest with yourself at least, that's despicable.
     
  13. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    No, I explicitly did NOT do that, by way of analogy.

    Just as there are people who enjoy uncompetitive sporting events, there are people who enjoy watching uncontested race heats.

    That is an analogy, not an equation.
     
  14. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    May 4, 2002
    Do not worry about using analogies the only problem is that it goes well over many folks heads. At times on these and other boards I have tried to use hyperbole and that was a mistake. People here just do not get the higher forms of language usage. You are better off sticking with standard usage and even then people will misinterpret, misunderstand and misrepresent what has been said.
     
  15. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    We don't talk like this in the women's forums. Although we disagree and sometimes vehemently, no one says that to other posters.

    Present a counter-argument not those insults at the poster.
     
    jnielsen repped this.
  16. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But you chose *SNUFF* films and bum fights as your example. That's not "uncompetitive" that's sociopathic.
    He compared people who enjoyed the women's celebrations to snuff film viewers. That's *exactly how analogies work.

    Edit: Apparently it would be okay if I casually responded to you that I really like to debunk bad arguments on Big Soccer, much like I like to debunk the arguments of Nazis and pedophiles. Just an analogy?
     
  17. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems we're moving a bit far from the match.....how about reining it in a bit?
     
  18. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey I reported the snuff film remark. Maybe they can stop with the personal attacks.
     
  19. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    It's an example of a thing some people enjoy that I cannot understand.

    The end. I'm sorry that you cannot process that in any way other than a personal insult.

    Analogies do not make equations.

    Pretty much!
     
  20. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's sad that you can't admit your obvious intention with that comparison. Just another example of dishonest discourse in these Trumpian times.
     
  21. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was hoping that everyone would rein it in, with
    Or maybe not......

    All y'all have fun....
     
  22. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    So good to know that you are literally in my brain guaging my intent.

    Also good to know that you do not understand rhetorical devices in the context of a debate.

    I GUARANTEE you that this country's President doesn't understand analogies as used in an argument.
     
  23. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait, the games are not on TV in France if you don't have a ticket?

    That seems extremely bizarre unless they decided to incorporate the old NFL blackout rules... :cool:
     
  24. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some posters on this thread have disrespected the Thai players, quite severely if you think about it.
     
  25. Semblance17

    Semblance17 Member+

    Apr 27, 2013
    Lighthouse Point, FL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, you tried.

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