WWC19 USA v SPAIN Round of 16, pre/pbp/post

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by McSkillz, Jun 20, 2019.

  1. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    They showed it on my feed. The Spain player fell and is kneed by Mewis. I guess the Ref and VAR thought it was face to knee and not a foul.
     
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  2. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    Intent is not written anywhere in the rules. Whether you meant to slap someone in the face or not, it is a foul. It was a yellow card to Jones of T&T in the game against the USMNT and it was a yellow to Rapinoe. She is not suspended for the France game. It is unfortunate, unlucky, and fine.
     
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  3. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    They're encouraging that which they seek to stamp out - simulation. And being incredibly harsh against human physiology.
     
  4. goussoccer

    goussoccer Member+

    May 23, 2001
    Avon, CT
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    Not when they are trying to stop and turn and regain their balance at near full speed...
     
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  5. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I really have no idea why he/she posted the 2nd video, which basically proves that incidental upper body contact is endemic to the game.
     
  6. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    Are you saying the Spanish player was not slapped? Rapinoe admitted as much.

    I can't believe that we are even criticizing this ref after the absolute gift she gave us on the second PK. Julie Foudy, certainly no neutral observer, called it "incredibly soft". I haven't even seen a replay that actually showed contact. Lavelle's leg doesn't move from the contact. She takes two steps, then falls down. Meanwhile, she has played the ball 20 yards away from her.

    Maybe talking about the yellow is distraction from the fact this team has not scored a goal from open play in almost three games.

    They remind me of England in the Men's WC. Thought of as shaky at the back but strong in attack, they actually didn't give up many goals and scored on PKs and set pieces. Until they faced their first actual good team...

    Friday is going to be fascinating.
     
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  7. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    Yeah. Just post a video of soccer players throwing their arms up and back, making contact with an opponent's head, and it not being a foul. Of course, that would be hard to find...
     
  8. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    No, I am not. But I can see a step or two down the road.

    Bad is bad. This is a weird point.
     
  9. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    I just can't see the road you are seeing. Hitting an opponent in the head is just not allowed. Is that a slippery slope to what? Seems like what you are advocating, allowing some hitting in the head, would be the bigger issue.
     
  10. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    What constitutes "hitting an opponent in the head"? Is every single instance a cautionable offense TO YOU? Why or why not?
     
  11. jackdoggy

    jackdoggy Member+

    May 16, 2014
    Big D
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heavens, no way to candy coat that Match- -survive and advance.
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    Rapinoe’s yellow-all we saw from the end zone were two players running parallel 3 feet apart - wish they would have showed the replay because the A/O’s would have STFU.
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    Between goal celebrations and “soft” penalties I’m glad the Team has provided topics for our vagabond friends to talk about.

    Support staff left for Paris about 12:30
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    And the team followed at 2:00
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    For a guy will only brought USWNT Jersey’s to wear..... the looks of indifference from 2 weeks ago have turned into sneers. That’s fine, I smile and have another beer.
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  12. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    Truth.

    And, a great comparison. England lived on Harry Kane running into people and falling down. Our's hasn't been as calculated, but the effect is the same.
     
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  13. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok lets concede that the slap to the head from Rapinoe was indeed a foul and a card. Just for sake of discussion.

    Then where was the penalty and yellow (red?) when Rapino was grabbed around the neck during a corner kick?
     
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  14. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    That was also "CONTACT!" in the box.

    Let's be consistent here.
     
  15. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    The VAR could have thought it was a foul and could even have thought it should be cautioned. The VAR can only get involved on this play if it should be a send off.
     
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  16. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Well, it is kinda like your take on Hillary's emails.

    It IS against the rules....
     
  17. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Only one of these has legal implications, dipshit.
     
  18. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Can you turn it down a little? you are resorting to epithets pretty constantly now, and the worst I can remember ever firing at you was that you weren't debating in good faith...
     
  19. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    There was NO reason for you to drag P&CE baggage onto this forum. That's a dick move that I had previously thought you were above.
     
  20. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    And I did say "kinda like." One had legal implications that I thought it really shouldn't, the other had rules implications that you think it really shouldn't; kinda like...
     
  21. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    What, you are a different person over there? You seem very much the same, but maybe that's just me?
     
  22. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Not relitigating the ********ing 2016 election here.
     
  23. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Keep digging.
     
  24. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Whose doing that? I'm just pointing out that an argument structure you thought invalid in that case you are now using yourself in this one?
     
  25. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    You can stop making inapt analogies any time now.
     

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