World Cup 2018

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by omajac, Oct 10, 2017.

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Who will win World Cup 2018

  1. Germany

    11 vote(s)
    25.6%
  2. Brazil

    21 vote(s)
    48.8%
  3. France

    4 vote(s)
    9.3%
  4. Argentina

    1 vote(s)
    2.3%
  5. Italy

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Spain

    1 vote(s)
    2.3%
  7. Russia

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Other Team

    5 vote(s)
    11.6%
  1. Bezhusan

    Bezhusan Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    May 30, 2018
    The lesson is: never peak too early, or you won’t ever win the WC. That was one of our problems, the best football of era Tite was played in the qualifiers.
     
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  2. Bezhusan

    Bezhusan Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    May 30, 2018
    Central defense won’t be a problem, I feel. Today I only see Marquinhos guaranteed for 2022, but we never had problems producing CBs. I agree with you that TS is awesome and will be much missed. He and Lucio are my favourites Brazilian CBs of my lifetime.

    RBs are an issue, we don’t have anybody on the horizon. As for creative midfield, my hope is that Arthur develops into a world class guy in the next four years.

    I agree with you on Tite revealing his team on the night before was a mistake. That played right into Martinez hands, made him be a step ahead in the gameplan.
     
  3. XaviandXabi

    XaviandXabi Member

    May 4, 2005
    CT
    #2353 XaviandXabi, Jul 16, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2018
    You guys are still overrating what Martinez did. Brazil had the better opportunities in that game to score, in both quarters, and should've been up at least 1-0 before the Fernandinho own goal.

    Tite can't be blamed for TS hitting the post on a tap in of sorts and Paulinho half asleep on the rebound. But he can be blamed for taking Fernandinho. Tite lost it before the Cup even started with that decision.
     
  4. Lockeroom

    Lockeroom Member

    Apr 11, 2008
    Giroud played very good and he was important for the team. He was great in the match against Argentina, his assistance on Mbappe' s goal was excellent.
    Guivarc'h at WC 1998 played nothing, he was something like Serginho and I think worse than him.
     
  5. Lockeroom

    Lockeroom Member

    Apr 11, 2008
    In my opinion Giroud played better in the field than Harry Kane.
     
  6. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  7. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
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    Man, he is really feeling it. Look, I was disappointed watching Belgium and France in the semis too, but I watched the game.
     
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  8. omajac

    omajac Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    East Orange, New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I wouldn't mind giving Rogerio Micale, the guy who coached us in Rio'16 a chance!! Muricy Ramalho could've been a contender as well, but I fear he will be too much like Tite!!
     
  9. S69G

    S69G New Member

    Barca
    Brazil
    Jul 16, 2018
     
  10. S69G

    S69G New Member

    Barca
    Brazil
    Jul 16, 2018
     
  11. S69G

    S69G New Member

    Barca
    Brazil
    Jul 16, 2018
    I agree. Game could have been different with Brasil in lead.

    But, game could have been different with Mexico scoring in the first 20 and then sitting back to counter and do a Germany. That was their plan.
    Brasil never really did dominate. Brasil managed the Serbia game well but even against Swiss and Costa Rica were stretched. Brasil was one dimensional. Costa or Willian is same plan different version.

    I felt France didn't dominate but always had something in reserve - they never looked threatened. Their game after 1-2 down to Arg was outstanding. Admittedly, Arg was a shell of team. Belgium pulled out a desperate planB against Japan. When they did they were overwhelming.

    I want the good old days back (even a little, along with the European style organization). Looking forward to a few craque mid-fielders and strikers (or a Neymar in top form) in the near future.
     
  12. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Fernandino was decent with manc....you never know when players will mess up
     
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  13. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I am hopeful that we will get the 6 stars in our jersey in 2022.....I will be 45 then. I am quite a optimistic that in my lifetime i will see brazil win at least 8 world cups :)
     
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  14. Estuardo A. Lopez

    Jul 9, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
  15. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    No one had a problem with calling Fernandinho before the World Cup, he had a good season and in general wasn’t bad under Tite. Tite made two mistakes keeping taking a lot of unfit players limiting our bench options and not dropping Gabriel jesus sooner.
     
  16. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  17. tpmazembe

    tpmazembe Member

    Jun 13, 2002
    The Midfield (S.Fla)
  18. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The rest of team could have made up for that ( giroud for example didn't have a single shot on target and France are world champions ) . I really liked the 2014 version of neymar. He looked like somebody who can change the entire complexion of the game single handedly . In 2018 he looked like an average player wanting to make an impact but always falling short of expectations ( injury or whatever maybe the reason )...Marcelo may have been tired after his champions league participation. Fagner was always the weak spot.
     
  19. krakdol

    krakdol New Member

    PSG
    France
    Jul 18, 2018
    All those players are French. Born in France, lived all their lives in France (maybe with 1 or 2 exceptions), so this is racist bullshit.

    I'm French and they're as French as I am. We have black people here, muslims, asians, white people. All are French the same. In some parts of the country we have more black French people than white French people, so stop all this racist bullshit.

    They were all born in France (except maybe 1 or 2) so which country are they supposed to play for ? Switzerland ? Most of the time they don't even know the country of their grandfather / grandmother... It just doesn't make sense. They lived all their lives in France you know.

    Look, I'm white and French and I have a Spanish grandmother and a Belgian grandfather. But I never went to Spain and I can't say a Spanish word, would you say I should play for Spain ? Of course you wouldn't say that, because I'm white. This is racism.

    I'm French and they're French too. There's nothing embarrassing about black people in France. I work with them, I live with them, they're French like me.
     
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  20. Doc_Exec

    Doc_Exec Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    Watch this guys - DNA examination revealing the actual origins of legendary footballers. It seems most of them have played for countries other than their own ethnic or racial origins. So, this current France issue is merely racism based on skin color.
     
  21. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007


    Neymar was coming off 3 months without playing any sort of competitive football. He was essentially playing himself into fitness this tournament.

    Marcelo can’t used fatigue as an excuse when Modric was player of tournament playing multiple games in extra time. In fact, now that I think about it, he was the worst performer out of all Real Madrid performers in the World Cup.
     
  22. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If Coutinho doesn't pinch in, the goal probably doesn't happen.

    Also can it's Paulinho's touch that leads the ball to KDB. Just bad luck there.

     
  23. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    Why was Marcelo at the edge of the box. Normally, don’t fullbacks stay at the halfway line for corners.
     
  24. samuel_clemens

    Dec 20, 2005
    Los Angeles CA
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    explain having 0 WC titles until 1998 and 2 titles + 1 final since . How come Africans are 12% of your country and 80% of your team? the answer, it's not "french all the same".

    The genetic differences between a Frenchman, a Belgian and a Spaniard are about as negligible as it gets.
     
  25. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    That's not the point. He is simply making a comment that they are French by birth if the original post is implying that they are not. That's all that matters. Immigration / emigration has happened in most all countries at one time or another and will continue to occur. Wether they are 1st / 2nd / 3rd generation French is irrelevant It's obvious that from a NT footballing perspective they have benefitted from this migration specifically from African countries.
     
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