Women's Asian Olympic Qualifiers [R]

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by mcruic, Mar 12, 2011.

  1. Samuel Vimes

    Samuel Vimes New Member

    Jun 6, 2007
    Could someone post a table? I'm too lazy to search for once.
     
  2. blissett

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  3. Samuel Vimes

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    Jun 6, 2007
    Thanks!

    So DPRK seems to have qualified over Australia, as long as they beat Thailand. Disappointing.
     
  4. mumf

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    Nov 7, 2008
    Nagasato is .......... an enigma. For Potsdam she has been able to produce difficult goals, individual goals......I defintely think it is and has been psychological since early in the World Cup. But part of it is the way Japan plays; the FW are not like, say Marta or Sinclair or Morgan, but they tend to be target players for the whole team to arrive.

    Did you see the 2 x Koreas game ? A sad result.

    Actually I see the Aussie coach agrees with our assessment - http://www.the-afc.com/en/tournamen...-qualifiers/36238-ar-women-olympic-qualifiers
     
  5. WPS_Movement

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    Apr 9, 2008
    Australia and North Korea each have two matches left.
    Australia has 3 points after 3 matches, and North Korea has 7 points after 3 matches. The only way Australia can quality over North Korea now is for this to happen ........

    Australia wins over China (by one goal or more)
    Australia wins over South Korea (by one goal or more)

    North Korea loses to Japan (by one goal or more)
    North Korea loses or draws against Thailand

    Simply put, Australia must win out, and North Korea must lose to Japan and then lose or draw against Thailand. If North Korea beats Thailand (even by just one goal), then Australia is eliminated.

    Japan will probably beat North Korea.
    So it'll all come down to the North Korea vs. Thailand match.
    Australia needs Thailand to get a 0-0 or 1-1 draw or something.
    It's possible but not probable.

    Conclusion: Australia must win out, and then needs a minor miracle from Thailand.

    All Australia had to do was draw against North Korea when they played earlier, and they would be sitting with 4 points right now, and North Korea would be sitting at 5 points. Australia would then control their own destiny, provided Japan beats North Korea. Australia will be kicking themselves for losing to North Korea. It pretty much came down to that match in terms of who would finish #2 behind Japan.
     
  6. blissett

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    As a Nadeshiko Japan fan, I am happy to know everyone seems to took Japan's qualification for granted, but in fact the most dangerous matches (NK and host China) are still ahead of us and, with some unfortunate circumstances, we could still fall behind both teams...

    Don't let me even start about how wrong would it seem losing to on-dope North Koreans, but, alas, it still can happen.

    Anyway, if we can, we'll surely try to open a spot for Australia, but, at the moment, Japan's priority is still trying to grab ITS OWN berth!
     
  7. Matilda Maniac

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    I'm hoping for a different 'miracle' - and a more realistic one:


    Australia wins over China (by one goal)
    Australia wins over South Korea (by one goal) - Australia on 9 points with GD+4

    Japan loses to North Korea (by one goal )
    Japan loses to China (by one goal )- Japan on 9 points with GD+3

    North korea bests Thailand (of course) and finishes with 13 points.
     
  8. blissett

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    I hope it will never happen, but be my guest winning over China and putting her out of the game, so it will be easier for us (Japan) beating them on the last match and qualify, since China will have no more hope to qualify itself.
     
  9. mumf

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    Nov 7, 2008
    It is more realistic OK. And dont count China out, they have yet to lose.

    Anyone spot any video of the Koreas game ? Wonder how close it was on the field.
     
  10. Batfink

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    It only seems that way because the Japanese forwards are forever missing everything they get put on a plate, only to then at some point to be bailed out by the excelence of the Sawa and Miyama run midfield. It's like having Ineista and Xavi running the play for Torres, then making excuses for Torres not playing well by insinuating the team don't help him enough :confused:.

    Ohno used to miss more chances than Nagasato, but she also made more chances for herself to miss. Ando isn't a goalscorer, but she's a fantastic link between the center mids and forward line. Then you have the real enigma Muriyama, a player who looks to be the best out and out goal threat Japan has when she actually gets to play :rolleyes:.

    (Gelfling :p) Kawasumi is now finding the net, but Japan is still a team obviously waiting and hoping on Iwabuchi level talent to bring the extra quality the attack needs. For the teams pattern of play, and in the short term though, the Japanese forwards need to either keep the ball better, or take more of the chances they consistently receive. Nagasato appears to be doing neither with Japan.

    Yeah, I saw patches of the 2nd half and highlights of the 1st. South Korea have a very talented bunch of girls, but left themselves tactically open having to chase the game thanks to conceding silly goals. While DPR will be going to the Olympics, South Korea should be a top 10 senior team in a few more years.

    Korea DPR for the whole second half were able to play their prefered stubborn defensive countering style, with South Korea being bailed out by fantastic last ditch tackles from one of the best center backs I have seen in the Asian region.

    Also, if South Korea didn't try and endlessly walk the ball into the back of the net, they could have easily tied or won this game. The play up to the edge of the box was slick, and quick, but nobody would take the open shot. Even Ji So Yun was at fault for doing this too often.
     
  11. blissett

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    "Gelfling Kawasumi", HAHA!

    I like it. :p
     
  12. mumf

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    Nov 7, 2008
    Interesting, especially the DF girl, thanks for the account. Let's hope someone posts a highlight on youtube.
     
  13. mumf

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    Nov 7, 2008
    I dont get this at all ? What is Gelfling ?
     
  14. blissett

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  15. Batfink

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    Wasn't sure folks here would get it, or see a resemblance, but once I saw her at the WWC I just thought, lol Gelfling. Plus if some fan's out there find the comparison a bit cruel, I'd say out of all the Jim Henson creations she could of resembled, a Gelfling is actually rather sweet ;).

    From being an unknown quantity, Kawasumi has actually become a vital cog in the Japanese attacking ranks. She's also becoming one of the major faces/personalities of the team too. Whenever I see anything on team Nadeshiko, it now has her face popping up all over it.
     
  16. mumf

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    Nov 7, 2008
    Her selection to play Sweden was bizarre as she had not played against Germany, and up then just 10 minutes in the tournament - it was entirely a case of exasperation with Yuki. And with no particular skills, except that she thinks pretty fast, she is looking like a goal machine now. Maybe you didnt know, she pre-dates Sawa at INAC, and remains the Captain of the team.
     
  17. Batfink

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    Iwabuchi was the go to girl up until the Sweden game, and when she's back I'd expect Iwabuchi to be ahead of Kawasumi again in the forwards pecking order.

    While Australia have been wildly disappointing, the highlights I saw suggests that Kawasumi was the real deal against them. So how far down the order will Nagasato be when Maruyama is given her chance to play, because you know she'll score too.
     
  18. blissett

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    I don't think the comparison is cruel at all. Basically it says Kawasumi looks like a little wide-eyed plush elf, that's quite sweet in my book. :p
     
  19. blissett

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    Now I would really like if someone could explain to me where did Eriko Arakawa end. :confused:

    She was playing (and scoring) for Nadeshiko Japan at least until Olympics 2008 (but maybe also later), then she somehow completely disappeared. Has she retired?
    She's quite old, It's true, she's 31, but, considering where we're at with forwards, couldn't she maybe be useful again?
     
  20. mumf

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    Nov 7, 2008
    The FWs have the most glorious but also the shortest life. I dont think she was any better than the current crop. However I suspect she is in fact injured. She still lists for Urawa but never appears.

    Its the same for Yamaguchi, or actually crueller, as she was in favor last year, usually a starter, sometimes a sub. But she appeared to learn earlier this year that she would not be in the WC squad. And she was right.
     
  21. mumf

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    Nov 7, 2008
    China v Thailand video

    As i said before, if only for their GK, the Thais might have had a shot.
     
  22. blissett

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    Although you should say "if only for their Goalkeepers", in the plural: against Japan and Australia, it was GK Nr. 1 who played, while against China they had GK Nr. 18 defending (!) the goal. She looked younger (probably coach gave her a shot, since there was really no more hope to qualify, if there evere was), but equally unexperienced and clumsy.
     
  23. Katreus

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    Aw, poor NK. They played great today (much better than Japan IMO), maintained lots of possession with some good attacking chances. Kaihori probably best player for Japan, saved some very dangerous chances.

    Japan only has three really dangerous chances, but on the third, Yuki shoots it, NK gk blocks, and NK def can't stop in time and shoots it straight into her own goal. NK own goal.
     
  24. Katreus

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    SPOKE TOO SOON! Wow! Beautiful strike in second minute of extra time!

    No. 4 for NK, sent to upper left corner of goal from top of 18, sweet strike. Reminds me of the SK goal against JPN.

    NK vs. Japan - 1:1. Nice job today, NK. If they can play like this consistently, I think they could make some noise in the Olympics.
     
  25. jonny63

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    Thailand 0-3 South Korea
     

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